Dr. Spier interviews Christine Grace Smith, accidental "men's advocate"

Dr. Spier interviews Christine Grace Smith, "one of the biggest independent YouTube voices that react to the online gender wars. She has uh over a quarter of a million subscribers."

Spier: Asking does Christine consider herself a male advocate?

Smith: I have no idea. I would like to think so, but then also it's hard ... Everything I say is what I think. Everything I say is my opinion, my thoughts. Anything that goes on that comes out my mouth has come from up here. So, I would hate to say my voice is men's voice because I'm not a guy. I have no idea if I'm saying what guys want me to say. I just say what I think. So, it's rewarding when people come back to me and say, "Oh, I agree with you.You're you're saying what I think."

Spier: I think that you can safely say that you're advocating for for men.

Smith: I just like to think that I'm advocating relationship between men and women. That's my thing... Men win if if feminism loses in my opinion. And if feminism loses, then everyone wins. I think men and women are both better off without feminism.

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Smith: If you Google, "I hate all women," you'll get your Google search flagged up. ... But if you Google "I hate all men," you're you're met with chat rooms. You're you're you're met with little witch cults. This is why we all hate men, people doing like voodoo with their ex-boyfriends. Misandry has been so normalized that I don't think it's fair to use the blanket term that the algorithms just turn us all against each other. No.

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Smith: You spoke about this before on your channel, you know, the victim complex in amongst women. And therefore, it can make things seem much worse than what they are. And what I mean by this is often, more often than not, younger women going online and talking about their dating experiences and then in the comments being flooded with other young women saying, "Yes, I've had the exact same experience. This is very, very bad." What they do is they'll take a very normal experience, something like being stood up or or ghosted, which you know, we all know is not a fun experience to go through, but they'll go online and they'll inflate that to the moral position of something like abuse. And they will say, "Yes, this is why men are abusive. This is why men are dangerous." And then it creates this narrative and everyone kind of gets stuck in this bubble. And and this is not just due to social media. There's other factors that go into it. It's taught in schools, in universities, this idea that men equals bad. Men equals monster. Choose the bear. Don't choose the man. So all of that is naturally pushing women away from men. If they're constantly being told men are dangerous, men are evil, and they're constantly telling each other the same thing. They're moving away from men, but they're expecting men to chase after them after repeatedly for years telling men, "No, no, no. You stay away from us because you're monsters." There was a study that was done here in the UK very recently and it found that amongst my generation, amongst Gen Z, we have this idea in the UK that, you know, there's toxic masculinity and the likes of Andrew Tate has possessed young boys minds so much so that they all want to go around beating women and assaulting women when actually this recent study showed that it's more young women in Gen Z that have a negative view of young men than the other way around. So, I think that that data that I've just seen, it's completely unsurprising.

Full interview here.