Donna Zuckerberg: ‘Social media has elevated misogyny to new levels of violence’

Submitted by Mastodon on Mon, 2018-11-12 02:02

Article here. Excerpt:

'Donna Zuckerberg didn’t expect to spend two years trawling through the corner of the internet defined as “the manosphere”, unpicking the grim alliance between pick-up artists, men’s rights activists, incels (involuntarily celibate men), the far right and the most ardent Make America Great Again advocates.

“It started as a curiosity,” she says, as we video call from her home in Silicon Valley, which she shares with her husband and two children. “But it took on a life of its own.” A classicist with a PhD from Princeton, Zuckerberg edits the online journal Eidolon, publishing scholarly essays on the Greco-Roman world from academics and students.

In the summer of 2015, she noticed an unprecedented level of traffic towards a piece entitled “Why is stoicism having a cultural moment?” and went down a rabbit hole to determine why. The results stunned her: men – or rather, misogynists – were using an armchair enthusiasm for the classics to justify manifestos of hate against women. The results were spreading online under a pseudo-intellectual guise, twisting ancient world philosophy to buttress a contemporary hatred of feminism. And it wasn’t a one-off.

“So, there are online communities that exist under the umbrella of what we know as the Red Pill, which are men connected by common resentments against women, immigrants, people of colour,” she explains. “What I was surprised to find was the extent to which they are using ancient Greek and Roman figures and texts to prop up an ideal of white masculinity.”'

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Oh God, this is just too good... but why TF does she care anyway? She's a fucking hausfrau for Godssakes! Shouldn't she be surfing some kind of domestic goddess web site instead of hanging out with no-account MRAs, "incels", and *gasp* fans of the classics?? What is with married women and their thing for bad boys anyway?

Zuckerberg, do something about your sister, for Chrissakes. She's running around amongst men of dubious repute, all the while married and shit. Give her a job or something. Get her busy with something constructive. I dunno, give her her own Facebook page for houseware ideas. Some shit like that.

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Submitted by Matt on Mon, 2018-11-12 04:36

So what's so bad about men learning from the Greek and Roman writers of the past. One can get a lot of inspiration from them. Yet this woman looks at a positive development through a distorted feminist lens and twists it into "misogyny" and "violence" against women. Typical.

It's articles like these that antagonized me many years ago in the first place, which led to my interest in men's issues. Along with all the other misandry in the general culture.

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Submitted by mens_issues on Mon, 2018-11-12 20:19

... to feminist stuff by men that isn't total capitulation will be condemned by feminists as something bad.

To listen to or take to heart the judgments of you made by your enemies is self-defeating. However what they say may in fact be a cause for laughter so occasionally I post something from a feminist about MRAs et al. But by no means take their comments seriously.

You have a dick. You can do no right in their eyes. The last thing when at war to do is to seek the enemy's acceptance of you. Not only are you wasting your time but it's fundamentally self-destructive.

The Nazis talked all kinds of smack about Churchill. Think he cared what they said?

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Submitted by Matt on Tue, 2018-11-13 03:55

Thanks to women like Donna, I literally could not care less what women think of men.

It's akin to a spoiled brat criticizing their parents for working too much, also looking out for their own well-being, and not devoting every waking second of the day to their child. Well, boo-friggin-hoo! It's almost as if . . . gasp . . . the world does not revolve around spoiled brats like Donna! What a tough thing to accept!

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Submitted by xtrnl on Wed, 2018-11-14 01:10

... gives her an allowance, too.

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Submitted by Matt on Wed, 2018-11-14 03:05