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Women to Enjoy “Get Out of Jail Free” Card in Wisconsin
Submitted by Roy on Fri, 2007-12-21 14:51
Story here. Excerpt:
'Sometime next year, La Crosse County may let all its female prisoners out of jail.
Instead of sitting behind bars, the women will be in a new community-based program ...
...using electronic home monitoring, and providing job counseling, literacy training and other programs through the YWCA.
“It’s a better way than locking them up,” said Supervisor Jill Billings.
Some questioned how the county could possibly go without a jail for women.
...
Keith Belzer, a criminal defense attorney, said in 15 years he’s never represented a woman who was put in jail because she’s dangerous. Belzer said women are almost always in the system “because of some kind of relationship with a man.”'
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Naked sexism.
Naked sexism.
Write letters to the La Crosse Tribune!
Let's bombard them with letters! Start with Dear Editor, refer to the article's tile and date at some point, make it short and punchy, and give your name, address and phone number.
letters@lacrossetribune.com
This is absolute, 100%, hypocrisy.
We need a male inmate in that county to file a lawsuit
If anyone here can fine a male inmate in that county in Wisconsin, maybe by calling criminal defense attorneys or however, and that inmate is willing to be a plaintiff in an equal protection lawsuit, please contact me through NCFM-LA's contact form at
http://www.ncfmla.org/next1.php
Oh My God!
All the stories and articles submitted to MANN are thought provoking, but every once and a while a story comes along that completely defines our movement. This is one of them.
Anthony
Told you so. This proves my point.
The more we push for simply "the government" to do something ethical -- and ignore the real problem -- the more outrageous the misandry gets.
Sooner or later men will learn that it is the people "behind the government"(and the idiotic religious upliftment of women as something pure and gentle) that make these laws. The government structure is simply another vehicle used for propagating hatred. Before that it was the WKKK...
Either way I sent a letter. I doubt if it will do anything though.
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The Women are at Fault by Matthias Matussek
That's right. People used to
That's right. People used to worship purity, and now they worship "abuse victims" instead. I'm surprised that they don't have churches filled with statues of battered women yet.
I'm Speechless
This is the most ridiculous idea I've ever heard of. Releasing all of the inmates of a prison because of their gender? What the hell!? Could you imagine if all the white inmates were released from prison just because they're white? I fail to see how that would be any different. I never thought that a person's reproductive organs determined whether or not they were dangerous. The idea is just absurd.
Evan AKA X-TRNL
Real Men Don't Take Abuse!
Jesus Was a Stud
Hey, Sosickoftheirlies --
Haven't you ever heard of the Virgin Mary?
She was magically inseminated by the Holy Spirit.
And then gave birth to the Son of Man.
(Her husband Joseph was a deadbeat dad.)
And then when Jesus finally got laid, the authors of the Bible had to censor it. (He was wandering in the desert....)
I know, it's not politically correct to think that the Saviour was a virile sexually active man.
But it would be interesting to think about what that might mean for MRAs, yes?
My letter was more of a rant than a letter, but...
...it proved my point.
Here it is:
""Alternative jail program for women'?
What's next an "alternative jail program" for "whites" because -- according to the next moron -- most whites are in jail because of some "black person"?
This is the most misandric and sexist thing I have ever seen. Rather than moving forward it seems Wisconsin is rolling back the clock to the old discriminatory days when people were hung for the color of their skin.
Tell Keith Belzer to use Clorox Bleach to clean all of the blood stains out of his white sheet."
That's only a portion; the rest is too....well...
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The Women are at Fault by Matthias Matussek
The Constitution Isn't Even Useful As Toilet Paper
Umm, 14th Amendment? Equal protection under the law?
A refresher on that section:
Section 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.
The only way to reconcile the actions of the state and federal governments of the United States of America with the 14th amendment is to conclude that men are not "persons". That is the only way in which this amendment can be evaded when sexist laws and programs are created, and when sexist judgements are handed down from the bench.
I think it's pretty clear that no government in the Western Hemisphere regards men as "persons". Human beings that aren't regarded as "persons" are typically called "slaves".
Furthermore, we already know that constitutions and bills of rights aren't for men - the courts made that plain and clear with the "Roe v. Wade for men" case, recent cases where women have received lesser sentences for murdering their husbands than they would have received for murdering their dogs, and many others.
Naturally it comes as no surprise to me (and probably most of you) that men are being treated differently under the law. If you look back to jurisprudence from the era of black slavery in America, slaves are never given full standing in society or under its laws. That kind of treatment is reserved for "persons" and "citizens", which men clearly are not, just as black people weren't until they were emancipated after the civil war.
So whenever you get some mangina telling you to stop talking about men's issues or men's rights, get him a copy of Trent Reznor's "Happiness In Slavery", and laugh in his face as you walk the other way. Such men have been deluded into thinking that slavery and sub-human status is a perfectly acceptable way for a man (but never a woman) to live. It's instilled in them early by the women who socialize men in our society. As the Jesuits say: "Give me a child until he is seven and I will give you the man". This is why women are working so hard to completely control all education, child care and other services for children. This is why feminists are so busy creating hysteria about pedophiles and driving men away from children with misandric "family" laws. So I say: let any man who happily accepts his slavery die as a slave; they're beyond redemption. If they want to join us in liberating themselves, fine. If not, they're worse than worthless to our cause.
Black women have rights, black men don't.
Naturally it comes as no surprise to me (and probably most of you) that men are being treated differently under the law. If you look back to jurisprudence from the era of black slavery in America, slaves are never given full standing in society or under its laws. That kind of treatment is reserved for "persons" and "citizens", which men clearly are not, just as black people weren't until they were emancipated after the civil war.
You mean black women were emancipated. Black men don't have any damn rights. The only right black men have is to give up their lives and suffer , toil, and die for women.
It's instilled in them early by the women who socialize men in our society. As the Jesuits say: "Give me a child until he is seven and I will give you the man". This is why women are working so hard to completely control all education, child care and other services for children. This is why feminists are so busy creating hysteria about pedophiles and driving men away from children with misandric "family" laws. So I say: let any man who happily accepts his slavery die as a slave; they're beyond redemption. If they want to join us in liberating themselves, fine. If not, they're worse than worthless to our cause.
Well said. I suppose that is why most men just want to accept things, forget about it, and roll over and die under the guise of "happiness" with an immature, spoiled bitch. I call that "the coward's way out."
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The Women are at Fault by Matthias Matussek
Here's my letter to the editor
Here's what I sent to these two email addresses at the Lacrossetribune,
rmagney@lacrossetribune.com
letters@lacrossetribune.com
Feel free to borrow any parts you like.
Sincerely, MR
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It is a basic premise of the highest laws of our nation that "we the people" receive equal treatment under law. La Crosse County, Wisconsin, I am ashamed of the un-American way you inequitably and hatefully treat your male citizens. While I am certainly not advocating that anyone should be excused for their misbehavior, more and more in America, we see men getting sentences and women get services for the same misbehavior. If the people of La Crosse County, Wisconsin choose to allow their government officials to egregiously discriminate against their male citizens based on their sex, they are no better than other hate organizations like the KKK.
I am going to go out of my way to make sure none of my money ever goes to Wisconsin ever again. You see, I don't believe in supporting hate movements, whether they are a despicable, insular hate group, or a despicable, established, misandrist government.
Very Truly Yours,
Rant On!
Any number of excellent points RM. Re -
The gender imbalance in boy's early socialization, which is almost entirely taken up with learning to be deferential to female authorities, i.e. mothers, teachers, day-care providers, etc.
If 85% of girls' elementary and high school teachers were male, would there be an outcry about the unfair gendering of the classroom climate? You know there would be.(Oh, wait, we already had that. It's called forty years of feminism! Problem solved by disappearing men from educational careers!)
The law today extends and systematizes feminism as a code of thinking about gender and power. Having seized the rhetorical high ground by declaring women to be "oppressed," feminists have been able to define the terms and assumptions that inform social debates about gender and power. In nearly all cases, men are put on the defensive by mere virtue of their chromosomes.
(BTW, could Marc A. or another legal expert comment on the Catch-22 with the 14th Amendment's equal protection clause and the boondoggle legal concept of "similarly situated," which allows men to be dismissed without standing in court?)
I think it's still very difficult for people to consider the slavery analogy as a serious one. Partly because men have been so successfully conditioned to accept subordination to wage- and domestic servitude; and also partly because men do not wish to view themselves as slaves. (We read about this daily on MRA sites where men are trying to invent a language to describe their situation without falling into a distasteful fem-like "victimhood," right?)
All of these sexist power systems based on accepted feminist values, modes of discourse, and representations of gender are today taken as "natural," and so become almost invisible, unquestioned. Like oxygen or gravity, that's just "the way things are..."
Any heretics who notice and protest are labeled as loonies or worse.
So, rant on man.
Behind every good rant there is an idea waiting to be adopted as truth.
You the man, MrReality!
That was out of the park. I love how you ended off by equating Belzer with a KKK member, it's a perfect analogy. I can see you agree with me on the comment I made about letting the whites out cause they're white. Great minds think alike! Your letter was great, man! Yours was good too, MR. Maybe I'll send off one too.
Evan AKA X-TRNL
Real Men Don't Take Abuse!