Harvard Medical School recognizing frequency of female domestic violence
From Marc A.:
The article below printed in the 9/07 issue of the Harvard Mental Health Letter (V. 24, N. 3) and is on the Harvard Medical School's website. It is by the researcher from the Centers for Disease Control, Dr. Whitaker, whose recent reseach found 24% of heterosexual relationships had violence, half of it reciprocal, and that women committed over 70% of the non-reciprocal violence and initited the reciprocal violence more than men, and women suffered more injury but men suffered significant injury as well. The abstract of the study is at http://www.ajph.org/cgi/content/abstract/97/5/941.
The Psychiatry Online article on the study is at
http://pn.psychiatryonline.org/cgi/content/full/42/15/31-a.
Dr. Whitaker was "surprised" by this research, which means probably isn't aware that virtually ALL randomized sociological research shows the same thing, including the National Family Violence Survey going back to 1975, plus nearly 200 other studies summarized by Professor Fiebert at http://www.csulb.edu/~mfiebert/assault.htm.
Dr. Whitaker's presumed lack of awareness may explain why he still refers to the more severe battering forms of domestic violence (which he admits is the less common form) as "male battering." He evidently has not seen the research showing even severe battering can and is committed by women, in both gay and straight relationships. E.g., a recent study in the Journal of Family Violence found many male callers to a national hotline experienced high rates of severe forms of violence from very controlling female partners. See http://www.springerlink.com/content/a7q0032j88817218/fulltext.pdf.
And, of course, since children are damaged just by witnessing it, the severity rates cannot possibly justify the gendered approaches the predominate.
Still, the recognition in a journal like this is progress. As the saying goes, "It ain't where we want to be; it ain't where we will be; but it ain't where we WAS."
Marc
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Somehow the actual article got cut off from the post; HERE IT IS
http://www.patienteducationcenter.org/aspx/HealthELibrary/HealthETopic.aspx?cid=M0907d
Domestic violence: Not Always One Sided
Mention of domestic violence immediately brings to mind an intimidating male batterer. But a 2007 article shows that the problem — also called intimate partner violence — is often more complicated and may involve both women and men as perpetrators.
Nearly 11,000 men and women, a representative sample of the American population ages 18 to 28, participated in a national survey. They were asked the following questions about their most important recent sexual or romantic relationship:
How often in the past year have you threatened your partner with violence, pushed him or her, or thrown something at him or her that could hurt, and how often has your partner done that to you?
How often in the past year have you hit, slapped, or kicked your partner, and how often has your partner done that to you?
If there has been any violence in your relationship, how often has either partner suffered an injury, such as a sprain, bruise, or cut?
Almost 25% of the people surveyed — 28% of women and 19% of men — said there was some violence in their relationship. Women admitted perpetrating more violence (25% versus 11%) as well as being victimized more by violence (19% versus 16%) than men did. According to both men and women, 50% of this violence was reciprocal, that is, involved both parties, and in those cases the woman was more likely to have been the first to strike.
Violence was more frequent when both partners were involved, and so was injury — to either partner. In these relationships, men were more likely than women to inflict injury (29% versus 19%).
When the violence was one-sided, both women and men said that women were the perpetrators about 70% of the time. Men were more likely to be injured in reciprocally violent relationships (25%) than were women when the violence was one-sided (20%).
That means both men and women agreed that men were not more responsible than women for intimate partner violence. The findings cannot be explained by men's being ashamed to admit hitting women, because women agreed with men on this point.
The authors say they have no intention of minimizing the very real problem of serious domestic violence — the classic male batterer. The survey did not cover the use of knives, guns, choking, or burning, and it was not concerned with the kind of situation that can drive a woman to seek shelter outside the home. The view of the authors is that most intimate partner violence should not be equated with severe battering. Domestic disputes that turn physical because of retaliation and escalation do not have the same causes or the same consequences as male battering. Couples counseling is generally regarded as ineffective for batterers, but if the violence is moderate and the injuries are minor, both partners are involved, and they want to stay together, it makes sense for a therapist to work with both of them.
Whitaker DJ, et al. "Differences in Frequency of Violence and Reported Injury between Relationships with Reciprocal and Nonreciprocal Intimate Partner Violence," American Journal of Public Health (May 2007): Vol. 97, No. 5, pp. 941–47.
Copyright Harvard Health Publications - 2007
Stereotypes dissolving.
Stereotypes dissolving.
Coming Out Of Denial
It is about damned time academia comes out of denial about DV being "mostly" perpetrated by men. Of course MRA's must be the smartest guys in the room since "WE" have known this for sometime! Just imagine, all of these egghead PhD's are catching up to us!
Great work guys...Our little
Great work guys...Our little bit of sustained effort can start to pay off!!
Pass around the mensactivism.org link to all youre friends!!
PS. I'm going to a very large costume party as a mens/fathers rights activist..(superman..with a wig and sunglasses)..And i'lle be carrying a large sign around town with MENSACTIVISM.ORG on it!!
Hey, Every little bit of raising awareness pays off!!
We all should e-mail these
We all should e-mail these guys and thank them for taking political hysteria out of criminal behavoir!! We cannot start to address societal violence by not recognizing some offenders because it's "politically incorrect"
Pass on mensactivism.org to a co-worker!! say, hey check this out, you might find this interesting!!
I mailed the article to Multnomah County
and included, from their own website, their facts that state that 95% of domestic violence is man on woman.
seems they have their "facts" wrong
oregon dad
Conflicting Realities in the DV Debates
It is interesting that this study discovers 71% of non-reciprocal interpersonal violence is initiated by women; YET - you can go to any domestic violence "treatment" web site and they will be parroting the feminist Duluth Model mantra, that is --
"Nothing a woman does to a man can be viewed as her provoking him to violence."
We still socialize girls to think it's "cute" to slap her boyfriend, and we still indoctrinate boys to "take it like a man."
That 71% statistic proves that the virus of Chivalry is alive and well in America.
No man should ever allow a
No man should ever allow a woman to hit him.
Same misandry, new source
The authors say they have no intention of minimizing the very real problem of serious domestic violence — the classic male batterer. The survey did not cover the use of knives, guns, choking, or burning, and it was not concerned with the kind of situation that can drive a woman to seek shelter outside the home. The view of the authors is that most intimate partner violence should not be equated with severe battering. Domestic disputes that turn physical because of retaliation and escalation do not have the same causes or the same consequences as male battering.
Oh, really? Male battering is much worse than female battering is it?
Ever ask a battered man about that? Of course not. Not at feminist-led Harvard, where only men are bad. Reality has a well-known misogynistic streak, you know.
Did anyone else notice how fast these assholes turned around and said "but men are still evil, and they're still the real problem", immediately after citing research which says that women are responsible for the majority (60% or more) of all DV?
Did anyone else notice that while the rest of the article based its assertions in statistics and research, this typical "men are evil, women are innocent" bullshit was based in nothing but opinion? Notice how they conveniently left out the fact that it is women, not men, that are more likely to use weapons like guns or knives, or to engage in setting their partner on fire?
It's nice to have the study to work with. It's not so nice that the establishment still refuses to acknowledge the reality of male victims or female offenders, even in an article reporting that there are male victims and female offenders.
Not that I'd expect anything more from the feminists running Harvard into the ground.
(Before anyone points it out, yes I know that CDC did the study, not Harvard, and yes I know that Marc A. pointed out the male-bashing already. It just incensed me enough that I felt it needed repeating.)
The state enables female
The state enables female violence, including the violent murder of children, so it's hardly surprising that it's become more common than male violence.
The DV Ideology's Holy Grail
I yammer about this ad nauseum, because it is so critical for MRAs to understand the ideology that underlies all of our accepted cultural assumptions about domestic violence.
Google "Duluth Model" and spend an hour reading about the secret creed behind VAWA, IMBRA, policing practices, the law, definitions of interpersonal abuse, etc.("Ignoring HER" is my personal favorite.)
If you don't have an hour, Google "Duluth Power and Control Wheel" and get the condensed graphic version of the same screed.
Feminists (and by that I mean all members of Congress), accept that domestic violence is at root about the Evil Patriarchy and a male conspiracy of POWER and CONTROL over women.
In other words, it is systemic and deliberate misogyny, built into gender power relations.
This accepted definition allows and in fact requires that 90% of what is already known about the complexity of interpersonal conflict must be ignored in deference to the feminist's lobotomized explanation of gender oppression.
You cannot talk about family dynamics, marital issues, psychological dimensions, substance abuse, personality disorders, economic stresses, learning disabilities, etc.
The ONLY "one-size-fits-all" explanation for domestic violence is The Evil Patriarchy.
If a couple experiencing marital discord seeks counseling through a DV treatment service, the woman will immediately be told to file for divorce, and the man will be enrolled in 24 expensive weeks of feminist indoctrination as a "batterer."
Most honest clinical professionals have totally rejected this feminist model. (See Donald Dutton's fine work on-line.)
But there is a huge population of vampires living very well off tax-payers' VAWA extortion. They are called DV "Treatment" counselors, and you can become one after only a few weeks of Duluth Model training.
(A six-figure income is well within reach if you get state-certified.)
Problem is for the reformers, in order to qualify for VAWA funding, administered by the DOJ's Office on Violence Against Women, a DV treatment service must demonstrate an effective "relationship" with an existing feminist DV agency.
Which is to say, get lost if you try to work outside of the Duluth Model and feminist hegemony.
None of this is new news.
Except maybe to Gloria Steinem.
By that definition, every
By that definition, every man is an abuser. But if every man is an abuser, why bother to prosecute anybody for anything?
No man should ever allow a
No man should ever allow a woman to hit him.
excellent, Thats good activist rhetoric!!
Real men
Their favorite belittling words are "real men." Let's turn that around.
Real men strike back.
Real men stand up for their rights.
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maz..right on man..we got a
maz..right on man..we got a little think tank goin on here!!
No shit
Learn to block. It's easier than you think. Especially with pissed off women who make a goofy face before cocking back.