Carey Roberts: "American Heart Association Plays a Cruel Trick on Women"

Everybody should go visit one of these corporate nursing homes where elderly women are warehoused for major profits.

I have an aunt in one, and it is 98% female residents and 99% female caretakers, nurses, cafeteria cooks, administrators, etc.

The only man in my aunt's facility is the maintenance guy who fixes everything.

Imagine an armada of silver poodle-haired 65 - 90 year-old grandmas in wheelchairs cruising towards the bingo game in the community room.

And a lot of their husbands have been dead for twenty years or more...

The men all died of "natural causes."

Here are the last few sentences of the article:

"We all want to know how the American Heart Association answers these two questions:

1. Why does the Heart Association want to deprive aging women of the main source of their financial support?
2. Why does the AHA want to send more elderly women to nursing homes?

And while we're at it, why don't we ask if they believe men's hearts count for less?"

What Roberts seems to be implying, is that he knows the AHA will not listen to anything on men's heart health issues, unless they find out that it is negatively affecting women also.

It's a sad day when Carey Roberts, a leading MRA and writer on men's issues, has to stoop to such a low level just to get attention for men's health problems. I'm not criticizing Roberts, I'm just pointing out how this shows, that our movement doesn't have much impact yet on the powers that be, at least as far as men's health.

-ax

Ax, I respect what you're saying, but the answer to all of your questions is the same reason breast cancer is a huge cause while prostate cancer is totally ignored, despite men's radically shorter lifespans and similar mortality rates for the two cancers. 1 in 9 women get breast cancer, and that's a huge catastrophe. 1 in 6 men get prostate cancer, and that's totally ignored. Again, about the same number of people die from those two cancers.

Men are viewed and treated as disposable, subhuman beasts of burden in this society, whereas women are viewed and treated as human beings. We are the drones. They are the queens. There isn't an insect or parasite species on Earth that wouldn't envy what women have managed to pull off.

Anyhow, until society's misandric view of men changes, it will remain verboten to even discuss men's health issues in a meaningful way outside of MRA circles.

...Canada was about a year ahead of the United States in it's efforts to wrap all heart and stroke funding in boxes with pretty pink bows marked 'women only' so this story seem like old news to me.

Up here Health Canada launched a major initiative to 'raise awareness' about female heart attack sufferers the moment Canadian women started reaching parity in the number of heart attack cases suffered each year with men. They just conveniently left out a couple points that seemed like no big deal in light of the chocking news that women get heart attacks to. First was that women were much older then their male counterparts at the time of their first heart attack on average. Women also were not dying as often from them, men still have a dramatic lead in the number of fatal heart attacks and strokes. Women who have heart attacks in Canada also tend to have other underlying health condition that are contributing factors (once again, they are 10 years older on average then men suffering a first heart attack). Yet, somehow they manage to survive more often. Perhaps because they already received $0.85 of every health care dollar in Cananda before they decided to steal funding from male heart and stroke sufferers

But of course, as usual you had to read the Health Canada Report to get that information, all the Canadian media just said that women are the new heart attack victims and calls for more funding for women only.

Nothing new, just the same old misandry. Maybe if Hitlery wins the USA will actually keep up with Canada in this form of medical misandry as right now Canada has a substantial lead

You'd think the American Heart Association would have programs designed especially to help men. They don't.

I will ask the AHA about this when their phone solicitors call asking me for money and or volunteer work. They usually call me around this time of year.

"Men are viewed and treated as disposable, subhuman beasts of burden in this society, whereas women are viewed and treated as human beings."

That is hard for many people to see, because men are also stereotyped as powerful, violent, adventurous, entrepeneurial, etc.

I have always felt that feminism played a very clever hand when it invented the Evil Patriarchy myth - because it is true that SOME men are rich and powerful - and feminists extended this to the concept of male dominance over women; i.e. since some men are powerful, then all men must also be.

In fact, very few men dominate women in any observable way. Most are too busy serving women as their domestic appliances to ever think about the idea of dominance.

But, the Evil Patriarchy is a useful tool if you seek a compliant male population living in a state of numb docility interrupted by occasional periods of anxiety bordering on fear...

RandomMan, your comment is 100% correct. I was just pointing out what a great extent MRA's need to go to, to get attention for men's health. I'm not questioning WHY they need to do so :)

-ax

I'm pretty sure women already get more bucks for cervical cancer; and I think there's such a thing as fellopian(sp?) and/or ovarian cancer (or at least cysts).
-ax

Indubitably. (or whatever)

-ax

Does he "out" us on his site, and/or say nasty things about us?? Never mind, don't answer that.

The only person who I ever heard say the word "indubitably", is Moe on the Three Stooges. I wasn't even sure if it was a real word, until just now that you seem to have validated it.

It sounds like a word the British would use, as in "You don't say, my dear chap..you were engaged in a donnybrook with a feminist wretch?"

-ax

I'm British and can't ever remember using the word...but didn't Dick van Dyke do so in Mary Poppins? During the Super...docious song?

OK, I'm a sad soul, but it kind of stuck in my mind.

Civilisation: man's greatest, and most unappreciated, gift to women

I don't remember much about that movie, except I played the chimney sweep in my grade school talent show.

-ax

How bad is feminism over there compared to the U.S.? The impression I get is that it's not quite as bad, maybe because Britain is still a little more traditional? I think Canada's the worst, closely followed by the U.S. I've read a fair amount on Canada.

I'm sure you guys over there are quite happy, that feminism started over here then migrated its way to Europe. When I was in the Navy in the 80's, I remember England being great as far as the natives being real friendly to us enlisted guys. Complete strangers would buy us beers. I wonder if it's still that way nowadays, with Iraq/Bush and feminism, and all the other delightful stuff the colonies have provided for your country (McDonalds, X-boxes, etc). I dare not travel to any other country except yours and maybe Australia, for fear of being spat on - literally.

-ax

In Canada, women can get as many abortions as they want, free of charge.

In Canada, women can make a false abuse claim against a man and are more likely to get away with it, even if it is discovered.

As most of us remember, Barbara Kay wrote in the National Post (a Canadian Publication) about how countless men in Canada have lost everything thanks to some ungrateful skank who divorced them and lied.

So yeah, Canada is probably the worst for misandry. But, at least we have the Conservative's in power. That makes it so the feminazis can't gain more power easily.

Evan AKA X-TRNL
Real Men Don't Take Abuse!

ax -

Were you rejected for the role of Uncle Albert?

That would seem much more fitting, given your more developed persona today... ;-)

It's a coincidence you mention that. I wanted to download the song "Hands Across The Water" (McCartney) onto my iPod yesterday. (I'm sure you remember that song from the early 70's)

Anyway I followed a series of links and ended up at some page that shows the cover of the album it came from. It says McCartney had an uncle named Albert who was known for reading the bible, and tipping the bottle.

Also I found another page with the lyrics. One of the lines is about Admiral Halsey..he "had to have a berth or he couldn't get to sea" (I always thought it was "had to have a buzz or he couldn't get to sleep").

McCartney is an incredibly talented lyrics writer. I doubt people will ever fuller appreciate his lyrics or figure the references and deeper meaning of all of them. Wings was one of my favorite bands, I saw them in concert in '76.

-ax

How bad is feminism over here compared to the U.S.?

Hard to answer without knowing how bad it is in the US! From what I read and hear, the US sounds very bad in some aspects - like your tendency to just throw men in jail at the behest of a woman. That doesn't happen so readily in the UK, but false accusations by vindictive women is still an appalling problem here because our authorities still let them get away with it. Just one example.

I could write a book about how bad feminism is in the UK, but I suspect it would not be quite as long or as unbelievable as your book. But it is still just a question of degree - rather like debating whether the man being hit by a hammer is better off than the one being hit by a club. You would still rather not be hit by either...

Civilisation: man's greatest, and most unappreciated, gift to women