Experts unsure why more women than men are graduating from college

Article here. Excerpt:

"U.S. Census Bureau data released this month reflects the disparity. About one-third of women between age 25 and 29 had a bachelor's degree or more education last year, compared with 26 percent of males in the same age bracket, according to the bureau.

Enrollment and graduation figures from public New Hampshire and Maine colleges and universities are in line with those statistics.

Enrollment within the University System of New Hampshire has been just under 60 percent female to just more than 40 percent male for at least the past 10 years, according to spokesman Matt Cookson. The system includes UNH, Plymouth State University, Keene State College and Granite State College.
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Economic changes are partly to blame for boys' performance, he said, since a loss of agriculture and manufacturing jobs have put many men out of work and into trouble. He said this has increased the number of boys who grow up without fathers and male role models."

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isn't there mass encouragement for women to succeed in school?

maybe that's why.

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There is already a debate in the higher education admissions profession about whether it is time to create a kind of affirmative action quota system for boys to bolster lagging male enrollments.

But that would deny qualified women slots in the top schools, right?

Any predictions about what will happen?

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>Mitchell added that modern women would rather be self-sufficient than depend on men.

Does this mean we can do away with alimony and child support based on a man's income? No?

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It helps when there's all female health centers, groups (Women in Engineering, Women in Computer Science, etc), and gym classes (all-female vs coed). In fact, if you're a female you probably could go your entire academic career without having to associate with a male unless you wanted to. Must be nice to sexually discriminate because you're so "victimized" by the predominantly male classes.

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That's part of the definition of self-sufficient.

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Or maybe that leads to the assumption that fewer men are going to college because they wish to depend more on women?

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If it turns out they have some kind of enrollment quotos for males, feminists will suddenly be screaming, "hey, no affirmative action when were the victims!!".
-ax

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If these "experts" don't understand why the phenomenon is happening, they can hardly claim to be experts, can they?

Notice that most of them quoted in the article are females, and they are the ones that display the most complete ignorance of why men are in short supply in college. If they were capable of taking off the blinkers that their female-controlled educational experience has so expertly fitted on them, they might have a better awareness.

Look at the clueless comments from the two female students:

"Women nowadays are more driven." Yeah, sure. Clearly a student who has not learned any history, which would have quickly taught her which has been the most driven sex throughout history (clue: it is not the female one).

"...modern women would rather be self-sufficient than depend on men." I had to laugh out loud at that one. So none of these graduates will be the ones whining like hell in 10 years' time when they can't find a sucker male to whisk them out of the world of work and into a comfortable lifestyle of luxury and idleness, with or without their designer babies?

None of them are looking at the bigger picture - of how boys are disadvantaged by the system long before they get anywhere near college, and how the legions of women with bright, shiny degrees are pouring into the higher echelons of employment when they graduate, only to pour straight back out again a few years down the line when they realise that a lifetime of work, stress and resposibility is not what they expected at all. Women may have the better qualifications on paper; but in real life, they simply lack the stamina and work ethic of men. That's why the guys continue to congregate at the top while the women tail off, despite every deluded effort to push them up and keep them there. Remember some of the world's most successful men had virtually no academic qualifications whatsoever. Absorbing highly selective pieces of information and being able to regurgitate them faithfully in an examination is one thing: knowing how to get things to work and keep them working is another matter altogether. I know which I value the most in the workplace, and which sex is better at it. So, it appears, do employers.

Civilisation: man's greatest, and most unappreciated, gift to women

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Your last paragraph in the post above was fantistic!
-ax

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It would help if employers adopted more family-friendly and flexible schedules and policies, she said. She added that women may be able to make such demands as they continue to dominate the educated worker pool.

=)

Good bye American competitivness and economic efficiency forever.

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Female feminists are just a human shield disguising the real wrong-doers. If you want to fight with feminism effectively, you must target the root of feminism: MALE DAUGHTER OWNERS.

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Academic Institutions are a joke now. Harvard is no better than a community college that holds feminist rallies.

The wealthiest man in the world is a college dropout: Bill Gates

Here's a list of the Billionaire dropouts.

Notice something? They are ALL MEN. They all surpass Orca's wealth and have done so without the educational system behind them.

Very impressive to say the least. Men are amazing. Look at these men and what they have done without educational backing. A black MAN easily became the first Black American billionaire during a time when blacks as a whole had nothing and before Oprah was even thought about.

No "educated woman" has amassed the kind of wealth Bill Gates controls in a self-made manner.

Men don't need the educational system. Especially with the way it is today. We were the ones that created it afterall. Once men let women hijack it, women downgraded it with their klan tactics, and now it's busted.

Remember some of the world's most successful men had virtually no academic qualifications whatsoever. Absorbing highly selective pieces of information and being able to regurgitate them faithfully in an examination is one thing: knowing how to get things to work and keep them working is another matter altogether.

Correct. As a matter of fact many wealthy men have little to no "formal education" but manage to surpass the so-called "educated masses." This is due to the poor quality of education and how many universities -- and even high schools -- program men for failure and subservience.

Real education is vital, but what schools have offered for the past 40 years has not been education when it comes to boys and men; it's indoctrination. The more men that refuse it, the better off they will be.

Men need to stop letting women play them. Don't let these jealous factory line girls make you feel bad for being smart enough to reject -- what is today pretty much -- worthless paper degrees given by feminist training camps to anyone who is "woman enough" to graduate.

The reason so many girls graduate is because all one need do is agree with the feminist professors -- and all women -- and your degree is assured.

However, what is also assured is a life of subservience to another.

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Mr.Reality,

I completely agree with your premise that education has become a tool for matriarchal indoctrination.

If you look at a boy's experiences during his first twenty years, they are all largely a program of learning subservience to women, right?

* First you get breast fed (if you're lucky) by a women who determines whether you are going to be hungry or not. Powerful early conditioning!
* Then you get (depending on day care) another 17 years of programming in the K-12 school system where 85% of teachers are female. Another lesson in who has the authority.
* Then, IF you graduate HS - currently about 70% of boys - you might go on to college and for the first time, encounter male professors who are like some kind of aliens you've never seen before.

The other more subtle socializing program is the "career + marriage + family" script.

That is essential to being accepted as a normal domesticated male.

Note that domestication is required for career success, and for general acceptance as a "real man."

It's OK to get divorced, because at least you've been domesticated and have the required check stubs to prove it.

It is, after all, a kind of Fem-American Matrix of seamless indoctrination, yes?

And I didn't even talk about the mass media.

Or why it is important for the global economy to condition men to accept servitude to women. (Hint - what drives the consumer economy?)

It is possible to be a conspiracy theorist without being unreasonably paranoid.

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Nice post Mr Reality.

"Men are amazing. Look at these men and what they have done without educational backing."

I just realised what a piece of heresy you posted there. To actually point out that men are amazing...well of course you are dead right. But that must be the most politically incorrect and provocative statement it is possible to make in our society, where the standard operational orthodoxy requires us to accept that all women,and only women, are the amazing ones (God knows why), while men are something less...

But that list proves that there are qualities that can get you to the top, qualities that are overwhelmingly concentrated in men (not all men of course, but far more men than women) and which just cannot be taught. At least not in a feminised educational system which rewards conformity but cannot handle exceptional male energy and talent.

Civilisation: man's greatest, and most unappreciated, gift to women

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It just doesnt go far enough.
This is one of the few articles that explains that women make the choices they do and end up with lower paying jobs. They also take time off of work to raise kids or take care of their house. This lowers the average salary of women v.s. men. That is good, and a rare admission that there is a basis to the wage gap and it falls in the lap of women themselves.

What it does not address is the fact that the public school systems were systematically feminised in the 90s based upon false or misleading data suggesting that girls in middle school have a self esteem crisis. This turns out to be false. But women's lobbyists were successful in getting laws changed and funding passed to reform the school system to address this self esteem hoax. And lordy, what do you know? The girls are now doing better in this catered to girls environment...but the boys are doing poorly.

Teaching boys to be girls is a recipe for disaster. And we are now seeing the results of the social engineers folly. They've helped the girls alright, but they've screwed the boys in the process.

oregon dad

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These eunuch males in our universities should be ashamed of themselves. I have spoken with a number of professors about the gyno-centric, anti-male hysteria,so prevalent in the American University experience.

Out of the 10 professors I have approached, with hard facts that challenged the women as oppressed victims, "university group think", 7 of them fled from me in panic mode.

These men seemed afraid of me, and scurried like rats when someone turns on the lights.

But there were the other 3 professors, I would say, clearly of the more traditional bold Academic persuasion, that were clearly intrigued by what I was saying, and i gave them some web sites to check out!!

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Women can't "make choices."

They are an oppressed gender that has no actual power.

What part of the Evil Patriarchy did you miss?

Get it?

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Actually, I describe myself as a former Mangina, rather than eunuch. Sort of. During my doctoral training, I caught a lot of feminist crap in theories classes. It pissed me off even then, 12 years ago.

When I run across that stuff in the texts that I use, I skip it (There are NO male-friendly textbooks in my field!). And in many of the classes I teach, I cover a number of men's issues (health, lifespan, treatment in family courts, wage gap bullshit, etc.)

What happens? When I get my student evals at the end of the semester (95% of my students are women) I usually get anonymous chestnuts like "Why isn't there more information on the status of women in society, and how they are victimized?" or worse: "dr. belgorod is a sexist pig!!!"

Then I have to explain myself and my evals first to my dept. chair (a daughter-owner ...she's in Med school...he is SO proud...) and second, to my dean, who is a batty old card carrying member of NOW, nearing retirement. Thank god I have tenure.

Just recently in my class on Multicultural counseling, I assigned students to read the article cited on Mr. Reality's site: "Assume the position...you fit the description" on Black misandry. A 40 y.o. mother of 3 asked if there would be other readings on women and Black misogyny.

...JEEzuz...(Note the Tom Leykis inflection)

The real kick in the ass, was about a year and a half ago, when I spoke to my old doctoral advisor on the phone. He is supposed to be an expert on men and masculinity.

National figure. Published up the wazoo on men's issues. I asked him if he'd heard about any of the things that I'd started learning about: B.S. domestic violence research, or the wage gap myth, etc. I told him I found it on web sites like this, then tracked down a lot of actual research.

His response? "Guys on those sites are typically bitter men that are angry at everyone" and "while there is some mutual aggression in domestic violence, men do MUCH more damage than women"(implication: no credibility, don't listen to any of that...women are the real victims)

I was shocked. I'm still not sure I've recovered. The one person that I thought would back me up and tell me that I'm not crazy, pulled the rug out from under me.

But it really is very difficult to speak up when there is absolutely no support in a university environment. Its hard to stand up and say "The empress isn't wearing any clothes!!!"

But I forge ahead. And I take my lumps. To do otherwise, and parrot the feminista party line just seems like lies I can't live with. Not anymore.

And I'm also convinced that the path to making a real difference is in a university environment, where the indoctrination begins in earnest with things like "Take Back the Night" marches, or annual productions of The Vagina Monologues.

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Belgorod, excellent post. Though it may be hard for readers who have never worked in academia to grasp just how extensively feminism has damaged higher education.

Before leaving the field a couple years back, what I witnessed was a creeping, insidious, almost conspiracy to insinuate the misandry of feminism into every aspect of university culture.

Start with the obvious things like the Women's Studies Department, the Women's Center, the Women's Freshman Orientation, the Office for Diversity, the Curriculum Committee, the Dean of Students, the H.R. Director .... all bastions of feminism.

At the community college level, male faculty and administrators are a disappearing species.

K-12 is already 85% female.

You could not invent a better "invasion of the body-snatchers" script for incrementally, gradually, with persistent intent - about destroying masculinity.

If that makes me appear paranoid, then I'm fine with that notion.

As Bob Marley said -- "he who runs away ... lives to fight another day!"

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