Last Call for 'Rape-Crisis' Feminism?

Not to mention hostile to the actual rape victims who may not be believed right away because their sisters were crying wolf to take advantage of the system.

Now that the news media and the public are almost entirely focused on this tragedy, it seems to me the Duke thing is way in the background, and may not come to the forefront ever again.

-ax

In what follows below, I am not defending Nifong in any way; he deserves to be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law (as does the stripper). But did any of you guys think about this?:

Now that they failed to nail some rich white guys, at least they can salvage something by nailing Nifong..a well-off white guy. After all, do you think that if the prosecutor had been a woman, she would be raked over the coals to anywhere near the extent that they are going to do to this guy? (even if it had been that unbelievably fucked up former-prosecutor-become-radfem-talking-head, Wendy Murphy).

Just an observation.

-ax

Speaking of the VA tragedy, I've already noticed a few "this is what's wrong with masculinity" bullshit from emails on CNN. Any chance they can get to take advantage of a situation...

..."it seems to me the Duke thing is way in the background, and may not come to the forefront ever again."

You certainly pose an interesting question, and I would agree if I didn't have such a low opinion of the media pimps who whore out our news sound bites.

It's just too good a sound bite to pass up when/if the Duke Lacrosse three file civil suit sometime in the future, after the V.T. events have had some time to be less immediately shocking.

Just today, I see less of the wall to wall coverage of V.T., and even last night on local news in Los Angeles, V.T. was not the lead story.

.... the most extreme violence imaginable wasn't such a huge sexual turn on to femininity. Women have orgasms to extreme violence and men want women. Death row inmates get hundreds of marriage proposals, women are the number one viewers of shows like CSI that are all about violence and depictions of it. There are also many more female sado-masachists then men. Want to get a chick without much competition, get into bondage and S&M, there are many more women there then men.

The point? Any "problem" with either gender is also a problem with the other gender. Neither gender has any unresolved "problems" that the other gender is not with complacent in or an active participant in. Women are not only complacent in violence, they love it every bit as much as men. They just don't like being the shooter, they'd rather be the head torture mistress or the girl that gets to have sex with the male champion on top of the corpses of the one's he's slain - read some history it's happened allot.

Women control mating, and women love to mate with violent men, so more violent men result since women control - and always have controlled - the process of selection.

"women love to mate with violent men"
"Women have orgasms to extreme violence"

I assume you are quoting someone's rant. Where did it come from, e.g. the web?

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Women propose to death row inmates in droves

Many women actively seek violent partners

Many women entice their partners to "prove themselves" by beating up another man - this often happens at bars, or if a woman can't choose between two lovers she'll often get them fighting and proceed to screw the winner

The majority of practitioners of BDSM are women

Women are also the majority viewers of particular types of violent TV shows like CSI, Criminal Minds, Cold Case etc...

Some of histories greatest serial killers were women - in fact the most horrific serial killer recorded in human history was a woman. Elizabeth Bathory - tortured and killed 700+ young girls.

Just because no one likes to admit it does not mean that women don't like violence every bit as much as men. They do.

Any studies which suggest, that women in general like violent men? If so, where can I view them?? And if it is true, why is there such a ruckus being raised about domestic violence?

-ax

But stay sober and go to a local bar one night and watch the people and notice the circumstances almost every time a fight breaks out. There is almost always a female inciting the violence.

Talk to your female friends. Women will freely admit they like when a man beats the hell out of some one they feel intimidated by or simply don't like.

If you have kids, watch what goes on in the school yard when you are there to pick them up - if you do not have kids don't go near a school as your maleness is likely to cause someone to call the cops these days. Who is fighting? Where are the girls relative to what's going on? What are they saying or what is there body language saying? Are the girls fearful or displeased?

Some one definitely needs to do a study on how women play a role in male violence. Though good luck getting funding as that theory is polar opposite of the feminist world view. Better be independently wealthy and able to fund the study your self.

Also, feminists just love to sight events like Virginia Tech as reasons women are in danger from all men. But what they don't say, is that it is very likely that women kill as many people as men do. It's just that women tend not to go on shooting rampages, they tend to kill one person at a time over time. The sudden flash of violence that men are more likely to commit gets the months of non-stop media attention. A woman who kills repeatedly over time tends to slip under the radar.

That's why I mentioned Elizabeth Bathroy. She killed hundreds and hundreds of people, but no one noticed for a long time because she didn't round up half the village and slaughter them on one day, she did it over a decade. Women will torture and kill repeatedly over time, men are more likely to explode and take out many people in a very very short time. Of course we don't talk about histories female serial killers so few people would recognize the name Elizabeth Bathroy if they heard it (700+ under aged female victims), but everyone will know the name Jack the Ripper (5 adult socially outcast female victims).

Though the way females tend to carry out the most horrific acts imaginable to humanity may be changing as the children of today grow up as very young girls tend to be acting in more traditionally male ways of aggression and violence so we could very well see a shooting rampage by an outcast female or two within the next 20 years.

I don't know, I saw things like that in the local news about Southeast DC, when I lived up in that area. Pretty violent there, but what you are talking about does not seem to be prevalent in neighborhoods I have actually lived in.
Although you are right, I wouldn't go within 100 yards of a schoolyard while on foot..and at that distance, they might as well have me on the "predator" list!
-ax

I'm not saying this stuff happens every day, but the occasional school yard or bar room fight does break out everywhere.

Plus, I'm sure you could easily get female friends of yours to admit that they have at the very least not attempted to deter a fight between their boyfriend and another guy even when they had no fear whatsoever of being injured in the process. Most will freely admit it's a bit of a thrill to watch.

And if you know anyone who's in the BDSM community you would know that that community contains more women then men.

The evidence that women are at least complacent in, and likely both inciters of much violence in males is right there to see, one just needs to look, and then compile it into a study that can be used to debunk feminist theory.

I think lots of people are kind of interested in the idea of watching a fight, after all there are lots of boxing fans. Also I suspect many women, especially the younger ones, dont' want their male companion to stand idly by while they are insulted, or worse, threatened. Even the celebrities get involved in scuffles now and then..Alec Baldwin and Norman Mailer are examples; Jim Morrison is an even better one (let's not talk about Bobby Knight). And people do have a right to defend themselves. Most localities have something like an "equal force" law, you know if someone hits you first, you can respond with equal force.
As far as S and M, I read somewhere that a study showed, that 40% of lesbian couples have done it at least once or more. It would appear they are psychologically disturbed.
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PS: I've often wondered why the feminists of yore, and probably even some modern ones, hate Norman Mailer? Was it some particular book he wrote? From what I understand, mentioning his name in feminist circles will cause these women to seethe with rage..who knows, a fight may even break out!

...women simply have no right whatsoever to claim victim status as a class as a result of violence by men perpetrated against them when they are not willing to accept the role they play in creating that very violence they are complaining about.

I am not talking about sports, self defense, or accidents - I am talking about assaults and murders. I am not talking about competitive nature - I am talking of depravity.

There is a difference between these. Sports and competition are different, there is a mutual understanding and respect between the people involved. What I am talking about is when people encourage the beating and/or killing of another out of hate or imaginary fear (as opposed to fear of imminent threat). Think KKK and lynch mobs of old. That's the kind of stuff I am talking about. Stirring up people into a rage to attack another for your own enjoyment.

See AngryMan's new post "Women force toddlers to fight, escape jail" for the perfect illustration of the nature that I am talking about.