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Cathy Young: A fruitful 6 years for this 'dissident feminist'
Submitted by Anonymous on Mon, 2007-01-22 18:32
Story here.
Excerpt:
"While feminists have called for more male involvement in child-rearing, the women's movement has also championed blatant favoritism toward mothers in child custody disputes, often to the point of vilifying fathers. This seems to be a clear case of putting solidarity with women over equity. While the fathers' rights movement has often been depicted as a patriarchal backlash, it is in many ways more faithful to the true feminist legacy than are the women's groups which endorse maternal chauvinism.
I am very proud of the support I have been able to give to equality for fathers, and particularly of my work in exposing the inaccuracies and bias in the 2005 PBS documentary "Breaking the Silence: The Children's Stories," which painted fathers who seek custody of their children as presumptive abusers.
The issue of mothers losing custody to alleged abusers has received more media coverage since then -- much of it sensationalistic and slanted -- and seems to be the next big battlefield for feminists and fathers' rights activists. Sadly, the fact that children's lives are at stake, not just the interests of men and women, often gets lost."
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Ms. Young - Dissident Feminist - Doesn't Get It
Cathy Young's closing line in announcing her retirement from this newspaper's op-ed schtick reads -- "Things will not get better until people on both sides forget about the blame game and start ostracizing the hate-mongers in their own camp."
This is the typical iFeminist "can't we all just get along?" pablum. (Baby food for the arrested development crowd.)
It is dishonest. It is unpolitical. It is manipulative. It is silly.
Notice that she did not advocate the repeal of VAWA, nor the reform of any misandrist laws.
Men are increasingly becoming aware that the term "Gender War" is real - and accurately describes the cultural landscape.
We face it every day in the gulag of feminist laws and courts, schools and workplaces dominated by the "I'm not like them" i-Feminist vixens who criminalize masculinity via behavior codes and sexual harassment threats and diversity workshops and affirmative action discrimination.
So, Ms. Young, thank you for retiring.
One less feminist Trojan Horse is a good thing.
Now if Cathy could call Wendy and suggest a similar discreet & permanent withdrawl?
...and one less backstabber is even better!
Roy, I know what you and the guys are feeling right now...and with Young leaving...you can bet your goddamn-bottom-dollar that feminist [equity, individualist, political, or eco-whatever] can't be trusted! Let her go Roy, she's shown her true colors! F--- WOMEN AND CHILDREN FIRST...AND F--- YOU MS. YOUNG
Emmanuel Matteer Jr.
Emma.noelle.blay@hotmail.com
*****masculism is a black male's best friend!!!!!*****
Can't Let Go What Was Never Embraced....
"Let her go Roy..."
Ummmm, I never even kissed her. (Cathy Young.) Not even rhetorically.
Eman, you need to write more, because when you present yourself as apparently angry and righteously pissed off ... as you have ....
more writing/posting is advised.
Just don't slam your mouse.
It's self-defeating.
Thanx Man!
I appreciate the encouragement Roy, but in this day and age...and bad times you're always gonna have somebody to want to shut you up...no matter how important or useful a thought is. BTW, Your intelligent black masculist has been behind the scenes lately following what has been going on with the men's movement [and especially the buttfuck-corrupt White House politicians and president, the loudmouthed left-and-right shitfaces Rosie and Trump, and the anaesthetic scumcunts of the showbiz sleaze: Lindsay, Jessica, Paris, Britney, Reese, and Pee-yonce!]and I still don't like what I'm seeing and hearing everyday! But believe me...I have misogynous tendencies [intellectually speaking], but right now's not a good time to keep to yourself when things are this bad. All you can do now is learn to say 'fuck you' to everyone and everything...WOOF, I need a hug...FOR A HOUSEBOY!
Emmanuel Matteer Jr.
Emma.noelle.blay@hotmail.com
*****masculism is a black male's best friend!!!!!*****
Yeah But What Do You REALLY Think?
Nice.
Cathy Young
I respectfully disagree with those who attack Cathy Young. I don't agree with everything she says, but I think she is a badly-needed moderate and balanced voice that has helped bring our issues to the public light and helped bridge the gap between MRA's and the public. She has repeatedly exposed feminist myths in a way that is fair and ratioinal. That is extremely rare in the media. She has helped publicize fathers rights, battered men, etc. and expose feminist myths over and over again in a well-articulated and rational manner. We could use as many people like her as we can. I very much appreciate all she has done and especially with the angry criticism she gets from MRAs.
The same thing happens to McElroy and others
I also appreciate what Young is doing. There seem to be a psychology where some MRA's "attack" these women, I think it is because those men know that they are talking to one of the very few women whom they may see as potentially on their side, but then the men dump their anger all at once, sensing that they have found a possible sympathetic ear. They know it is useless to argue with feminists, so they gang up verbally on people like Young. In a way it is understandable, though regrettable.
One thing about the article reminds me of something in "The Myth of Male Power" by Farrell. About women's options, Farrell says they have three:
1)Work fulltime.
2)Be a "stay-at-home mom".
3)Some combination of working and caretaking.
Farell says men's options are:
1)Work full-time.
2)Work full-time.
3)Work full-time.
I would correct that to read:
1)Work full-time.
2)Work overtime.
3)Work two jobs.
It seems to me that most women view a potential husband as a wallet - or as Farrell says, the woman expects the man to provide her a "financial womb" - economic security. This allows the woman to then choose from among her three options (at least for middle-class and above). Of course there are other ingredients such as sexual attraction, which must usually be present for the marriage to occur..but the man is often expected to initiate or take responsibility for these also.
Basically what I am getting at is that there is more to the situation than simply an individual "marrying up"; it is truly a social phenomenon. Also I doubt many women are looking for stay-at-home dads (soccer dads..ha ha). Funny how that works, considering decades of women telling us how hard it is to be a homemaker. The fact is that when you are home, you can pretty much set your own schedule, whereas at work you are under the watchful eye of some barf-bag MBA type, who creates a miserable work environment, uses employees to spy on each other, provides inadequate information or equipment to get the job done, etc. etc. (ref. "Working" by Studs Terkel; Levering's "A Great Place to Work"; the "Peter Principle" books).
"Johnny spilt his milk!!!"..cry me a river.
-axo
It's been a long six years
I've never been a huge fan of C.Y.'s -- ever since she refered to Rich Zubaty as a misogynist, in her book Ceasefire -- but can appreciate the role a moderate, respectable voice like hers plays in mainstream outlets such as the Boston Globe, where newbie readers are apt to take her as quite a freethinking radical in comparison to what all else is out there. Not everyone can be as involved and passionate about these issues as were are, so I can't entirely fault her for not going to the lengths we'd like. If she's helped put some brakes on any of the many outrageous excesses out there, we should take it as something positive. I hope she's working on a new book or something with more meat to it than a newspaper column.
* MB
What Are the Trojan Horse Fems DOING?
"I also appreciate what Young is doing."
(Same for McElroy, Dr. Helen... et. al.)
They are in fact doing NOTHING.
They are making a living, by POSING...
It's like that old Madonna song .... VOGUE.
("Strike the POSE!")
Don't actually risk anything, just write about how men are suffering under feminazism.
These women don't actually DO anything, except exploit men's desire for sympathetic MRA-faux-allies among the fairer sex.
They are MRA-whore/pimps....
Both benefiting and exploiting via the feminist shitstem!
It's almost like watching a Chicago mafia auto towing company! Talk about cynically strategic thugs!
Read Ariel Levy and Laura Kipnis and Christina Hoff Sommers if you wish to understand this argument.
The best post-feminists do not want to diminish men just to become "more-than-equal."
That's not to suggest you should ever trust a woman.....