Hillary Clinton Running for '08 Demo Nomination

Is There A Batterer In The U.S. Senate?
By Glenn Sacks
5/7/2002

"There is a batterer in the United States Senate.

This abuser's spouse has suffered repeated violent attacks, yet there has been no condemnation of this Senator's violence. Ironically, this Senator, who is one of the most controversial people in American public life today, has somehow escaped reproach for the one thing that both detractors and admirers should agree is genuinely inexcusable--domestic violence.

Who is this perpetrator of domestic violence? New York Senator Hillary Clinton.

The evidence against Ms. Clinton is strong. According to Hillary's admiring biographer Gail Sheehy, author of Hillary's Choice, one of the domestic assaults upon Bill Clinton occurred in 1993, when Hillary slashed Bill Clinton's face with her long fingernails, leaving a "mean claw mark along his jawline.'"

I was blown away by this article about Hillary's abusive background. Strange that I don't see any of this mentioned in the Hillary controversies section of Wikipedia - someone should write up a summary under 'Domestic Violence' heading and add it to this page...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hillary_Rodham_Clinton_controversies

I will start writing the summary myself if someone else here doesn't beat me to it. This issue alone is enough to lose her the race - no one wants to vote for a hypocrite.

I have never voted Republican in my entire life; but I swear I will vote for any human being running against Hillary.

She is the anti-Christ.

And, I'm not even a Christian.

But, I recognize E-V-I-L when I see it.

No Hillary. No Obamasculation...

Another faux-election is soon upon us.

If Hitlery (no-typo) is elected, it will be because most women (and many foolish men) will vote her into office. Their fantasies of how great it would be for a woman to break the so called “political glass ceiling” will blind them to her true character.

Unfortunately, the hag has a shot at winning! It will be a sad day, for men and women alike, is she pulls it off!

Hitlery

It will be interesting to see how the Hildabeast's spin control doctors will handle the scandals in her past like the White Water scandal, the Rose Law firms missing documents , her $1000.00 investment in cattle futures that netted her a $100,000 profit and the rumor of her DV attacks against Bill while in the White House. But she did get elected to the Senate TWICE without these issues being a problem so I guess her team is prepared for the questions about the above. I suspect the DV against Bill will the the least problematic.

If anyone brings up the domestic violence rumors she has the ultimate female weapon at her ready disposal - redirect back at the victim. Two words: Monica Lewinski

That will immediately silence anyone in the femnazi state who dares accuse the all powerful victim of adultery and future dictator of the Fem-Reich.

It will be interesting to see how the Hildabeast's spin control doctors will handle the scandals in her past like the White Water scandal, the Rose Law firms missing documents , her $1000.00 investment in cattle futures that netted her a $100,000 profit and the rumor of her DV attacks against Bill while in the White House.

Those were all investigated multiple times by the GOP Congress under the Clinton administration, and they all turned out to be complete bullshit, every time. As opposed to scandals-that-should-have like Harken Energy or awarding no-bid contracts to a company that Cheny owns a lot of stock in, or the firing of U.S. Attorneys, etc etc etc.

But that's what you get when you have a media that throws softballs to ultra-conservatives and plays hardball with everyone else.

David A. DeLong
Roy, you have said it, another Faux election is upon us. When are People going to wake up and realize that the only way we can have any dignity is to rule ourselves? One person, one vote. Perhaps I dream to much!

Those were all investigated multiple times by the GOP Congress under the Clinton administration, and they all turned out to be complete bullshit, every time. As opposed to scandals-that-should-have like Harken Energy or awarding no-bid contracts to a company that Cheny owns a lot of stock in, or the firing of U.S. Attorneys, etc etc etc.

Yes, the scandals against those you support are all unfounded, while the scandals against those you oppose are all valid (it must be that ultra-conservative news media that votes 90% democratic, yet still self-classifies itself as "moderate"). I would hate to have someone as objective as you on a jury.

Do you ever read what you write? Every one of your posts is a political statement. This wouldn't be so bad, except you have in the past criticized others for making political statements on an MR newsboard.

No. The previous investigations did not find the charges against Clinton to be "bullshit." What they did find, was insufficient evidence for the charges to go forward. Hillary Clinton is not a person of integrity. I say this by asking myself one question. Given the problems that men have in our society, has she ever once said anything positive or supportive about men? Anyone who makes inane statements such as, "Women have always been the primary victims of war. Women lose their husbands, their fathers, their sons in combat" cannot be trusted.

No. The previous investigations did not find the charges against Clinton to be "bullshit." What they did find, was insufficient evidence for the charges to go forward.

Get real. The GOP impeached Clinton for getting a blow job. If the Clintons had done anything remotely illegal, they would have been nailed for it by one of the endless investigations by Congress or Ken Starr. So: yes, they were bullshit witchunts.

while the scandals against those you oppose are all valid

Thank you Captain Straw Man! But if you want to go there, Harken Energy was a far greater should-have-been-scandal than Whitewater, in which the Clintons actually lost money. Bush was a director for Harken, and sat on the auditing committee. He sold his shares just before the company announed large losses - it was an open and shut case of insider trading. And yet he was given a pass by the SEC, headed by a man appointed by his father. Or how about the fact that Tom Delay auctioned off House chairmanships to the highest bidder, or how Republicans changed the ethics rules to allow him to retain his leadership post if indited. Or Bush getting caught in bald faced lies on how no one could have predicted that airplanes would be used in a terrorist attack or that the levees might breach in New Orleans. And so on. And on. And on. And on.

t must be that ultra-conservative news media that votes 90% democratic, yet still self-classifies itself as "moderate"

Isn't that dead horse starting to smell yet? If reporters are so "liberal" then why did they spend the 2000 race trashing Gore's so called "fib factor" and yet let Bush take credit for legislation he vetoed? Your cute little factoids about how reporters vote are completely irrelevant, because media companies are overwhelmingly owned by conservatives and arch conservatives.

Every one of your posts is a political statement.

My posting history makes you a liar.

This wouldn't be so bad, except you have in the past criticized others for making political statements on an MR newsboard.

I do not gladly suffer fools. And by "fools", I mean people who spend all their time attacking Democrats over the Violence Against Women Act, completely ignoring the fact that it was sponsored by Orrin Hatch, a Republican, passed a Republican Congress, and still would have passed nearly unanimously if all Democrats had stayed home on the day of the vote. Fools who don't stop to think about the fact that there are millions of divorced husbands and fathers in this country who happen to be Democrats.

Hillary Clinton is not a person of integrity.

She is a fence sitting opportunist. And despite that, she has infinitely more integrity more integrity than any of the Republicans yet in the presidential race. Bill got his blowjob, but Giuliani has a bushel of affairs and divorces and even took his mistriss to the mayors house. McCain had his own affair, and has spent the last six years sucking up to the people who stabbed him in the back six years ago. Romney tried running to the left of Ted Kennedy a decade ago, and has thundered about illegal immigration only to have illegals work on his lawn.

Anyone who makes inane statements such as, "Women have always been the primary victims of war. Women lose their husbands, their fathers, their sons in combat" cannot be trusted.

Yup, completely insane, considering that men are the first ones to be killed, lucky us. But you can find much worse from any of her Republican counterparts in the race, and yet I doubt you're half as opposed to them.

I avoid the divisive left/right debate and think we all need to respect each other's background politics/beliefs. But I disagree with this statement:

"The GOP impeached Clinton for getting a blow job. If the Clintons had done anything remotely illegal, they would have been nailed for it by one of the endless investigations by Congress or Ken Starr. So: yes, they were bullshit witchunts."

The reason I disagree with this is that the discussion prior to it was not about Bill's wrongdoing but about Hillary's violence. I seriously doubt the Reps were investigating Hillary's violence. I never heard any of them or anyone else ever mention Hillary's violence except Glenn Sacks (who thankfully avoids openly taking any left/right position). So I don't think you're argument works, i.e., that if Hillary were actually violent to Bill it would have been revealed by the Reps who were investigating Bill. As much as I hate Bill's misandry, and don't like that he lied about the blow job, I agree that the blow job was really nobody's business. I respect disagreement on that. But I strongly feel that Hillary's violence *is* people's business because if she did it then she is a batterer and she is going around hypocritcally talking about male violence and battered women. I'll stand corrected if someone proves me wrong on this, but again, I have never heard either the left or right - only Glenn Sacks - address Hillary's violence, and I blame both the Reps and the Dems for ignoring it. That's not about left/right; it's about misandry.

It will be interesting to see how the Hildabeast's spin control doctors will handle the scandals in her past like the White Water scandal, the Rose Law firms missing documents , her $1000.00 investment in cattle futures that netted her a $100,000 profit and the rumor of her DV attacks against Bill while in the White House.

If you want to investigate her alledged attacks on Bill, knock yourself out. I was attacking the other so called "scandals" that turned out to be nothing a loooong time ago. It just pisses me off when people who are supposedly in the MR movement spend all their time attacking Democrats, like when Matt complains about Biden while ignoring VAWA sponsors like Orrin Hatch and Arlen Specter.