Australia: Men fight the stereotype

University of Sydney Associate Professor Catherine Lumby falsely claims the majority of domestic assaults is committed by men. Virtually all sociological survey data shows women initiate domestic assaults as often as men do. This has now been confirmed by a 32-nation study by the University of New Hampshire.
http://pubpages.unh.edu/~mas2/ID41E2.pdf
http://www.csulb.edu/~mfiebert/assault.htm

Other than that this was a very interesting story.

I thought before reading the article, "alright, good news at last..there is no way this is going to piss me off"

WRONG-OOOO!!! You guys MUST read this article! Reporters like this make me so mad, I could puke on my keyboard.

From article:

"Male-bashing is a vital part of female bonding; it brings us together, gives us a common point of reference as well as something to complain about.
And the much maligned male so thoughtfully gives us so much material to choose from."

Sorry guys, that statement tells me something about women, not men.

Later, the author writes about how Dr. MacNamara's study shows that the majority of child abuse is commited by women. Unfortunately, she then gives MORE THAN equal time to some goofy lady, who claims that men commit almost all domestic violence and child abuse. And this lady is supposedly pro-meninism!

I would say though, that the main problem with the article's mentality..and probably society's.. is that the case is being made that, "well, we REALLY better do something about man-hating now..it is starting to give young boys a lack of role models". Oh I see, let's not worry about the men themselves!

-Axolotl

Actually - they SHOULD be worried about the Dads and the impact to role models.

The Dads are who is going to influence the boys....NOT the moms.

Male children look up to their Fathers, and it is THESE FATHERS that are going to set the boys straight.

NEVER, EVER, EVER TRUST A WOMAN. PERIOD.

oregon dad

Pleae re-read my post below.

OF COURSE that is something to worry about, and immediate action should be taken because of it.

I am just saying it's inherently unfair to take an attitude, that we don't need to worry about all the men that have been harmed because of this mentality..not to mention increased violence by men due to it (for example the guy who shot the judge in his divorce case). Don't men's feelings count? What that mentality is really a reflection of, is just another case of men being disposable..women and children count more.

-Axolotl

It is true. I think that to unite a group, you must bash the others. Countries secretly think they are the best over all others. Colleges bash each other during football season. Blacks bash Whites, Whites bash Blacks. It's certainly a part of human nature to justify your group. Therefore, I don't care when women bash men, as long as they don't put it all over the media. I think it's okay to make a few sexist jokes here and there for both sexes. It's a stress-relief and it makes you feel good to be a man or a woman.

There seems to be a deliberate attack on anything that unites male. The feminized society we all live in seeks to ban all the uniting factors that apply to males. Thye control the government, so will male-bash on a level that shouldn't be legal. We can't tell women-jokes at work, we can't create men-only college clubs, and at my college you either have girls-only weightlifting class, or co-ed weightlifting class. Napoleon said it best, "Divide and conquer". I trust no females that want to "save the males." They just want to "save" us from masculinity, as if it was some kind of illness. They are simply bashing the other group to make themselves feel better, but are the only ones allowed to do it in public.

I get how you say that the comments about male bashing being a vital part of female bonding is infuriating Axolotl. The way the comment was stated makes me sick to.

I see it as the equivalent of men proclaiming that raping women is a vital part of male bonding because it brings men together and women are worth nothing more then a blow up doll, so it's fine no harm done.

Of course that would be ridiculous and completely and utterly disgusting to say in a public forum.

I think that's where the problem comes in.

I also see where you are coming from blaze4metal, 'cause you're absolutely correct about groups bashing other groups to make themselves feel good outside the realm of gender issues. It's true we should all have a bit of a thick skin and let most things of that nature slide because we are as guilty as they are of doing it.

I think that most of what you are talking about occurs primarily in the spirit of humor or competition though and most of it is outside the public forum.

Where I find that woman's comments unacceptable is that it is made in the context of denigration of one group for the benefit of another in a context of worth as human beings.

Plus, it is being done in forums where it is not appropriate. We are all guilty of the sexist joke on occasion in private with a group of friends. But only a group of girls/women can be seen in the office or at the shopping center publicly expressing their disdain for men for all to hear (usually targeted at a specific male they have deemed weak but expressed in the context of all men being like that).

I don't think all the types of regular bashing you mention are equivalent. In those types, the parties are bashing EACH OTHER, without anyone getting in trouble for it. But you yourself acknowledge in your post, that woman-bashing by men is not allowed..in fact not only is it not P.C., it can actually get you in trouble depending on who overhears it.

Sorry, I can't recall the last time I heard a group of men engage in women-bashing..maybe in the late 70's. The fact is that men have been intimidated into not doing it.

And no, I and many others do not need to engage in women-bashing, in order to feel like a man. And the analogy about talking of rape Paragon mentioned, is ridiculous. I think you guys - those among us who ARE guys - need to read the articles and posts better:)

-Axolotl

I don't engage in woman-bashing to feel like a man either. I'm making a point about groups in general. Men are a group and women are a group. Get it?

The subject of the article was male-bashing, not anthropology or sociology. And I am happy to hear that you do not woman-bash to feel like a man..even though you earlier stated that there was nothing wrong with that.
You know, sometimes trolls try to start arguments on these boards...
-Axolotl

I hate those trolls