UK - White boys from poorer homes worst in classroom

... they are overlooking seems to be the influence of the feminsits and related PC crowd. But that'd be un-PC to mention, so they don't.

when Mr Duncan Smith is quoted saying “That poor children from Chinese and Indian backgrounds, where family structures are strong and learning is highly valued, outscore so dramatically children from homes where these values are often missing suggests that culture not ethnicity or cash is the key to educational achievement,” he says in the forward to the report." this is likely directly aimed at those who have worked so hard to destroy those values in our society (read: feminists and their ilk)

But I agree that he could have been more straight to the point with the issue. Western society will fail to compete on a global scale if we fail to teach our children properly and instill in them good morals and give them a strong set of roots to insure they have the strength to weather life's storms

This phenomenon is also very visible in Canada where we are very quickly becoming a nation made up primarily of non-white peoples. Since generational Canadians are no longer breeding at rates anywhere near the level required to sustain the population, Canada has allowed -and continues to allow - millions of immigrants from the geographic regions Mr Duncan mentions.

I agree of course, that parental involvement is a factor, but like I have said in other posts - if the British system is anything like the U.S., they need:

1) A return to being somewhat more disciplined in the classroom. That of course does not mean swatting students with rulers, as someone always accuses me of endorsing when I bring this up. It means, for example, giving teachers the power to remove students from a classroom if they are disruptive, instead of not doing it because the parents will complain.

2) A return to some stricter learning methods like rote learning. A lot of people don't like that idea, because they have in their minds that returning to any one thing we have done in the past at all, means that I am suggesting a TOTAL return to the past, including all the bad things (that one simple flaw in people's thinking has, I believe, resulted in problems in other areas too, but that is a different subject).

3) Get rid of the progressive education morons.

4) More single-sex classes, which have been shown to help boys and girls immensely.

5) More male teachers.

The school system is looking for a scapegoat when they blame parents.

-axolotl

Political correctness rules in British schools. Boys are not given the opportunity to develop their masculinity. They are not encouraged in areas where they have been historically good at, like sciences, mathematics and engineering. (Girls are, but not boys.)

Indeed, masculinity, often likened to bad behaviour, to mindless aggression, to sex crimes, to drunkenness, to domestic violence, is discouraged. My impression is that boys are encouraged to become manginas when they grow up.

And this is an unattractive prospect for any growing boy.

So what do they do? They react against the system. They show their masculinity by behaving badly, in anti-social ways, exactly according to its definition given by political correctness.

The historic definition of masculinity should be restored. This would include the ability to tackle problems tenaciously and the strength to protect. It would include competitiveness and leadership. (Then, other natural tendancies like chivalry would follow.)

This would be an attractive prospect to any boy, by virtue of its naturalness. It's positive, and would be a strong motivator.

Perhaps we would then see more boys doing well at school, instead of too many behaving in such a destructive way in PC cultures like Britain's.

>"culture not ethnicity or cash is the key to educational achievement"

What Mr Duncan Smith is basically saying is that white working-class families in GB are culturally inferior to their Indian, Chinese, etc. counterparts.

But this doesn't explain though why specifically white boys and not white girls are those who are the "worst in classroom".

Of course, more male teachers are certainly needed.

The problem here in the UK is finding them. But the UK's real big problem is its obsession with paedophiles, because herein lies one significant reason why so many capable and interested men are not applying to become teachers: they are afraid of being branded as paedophiles.

The UK's popular press, the tabloids, have brainwashed the nation into believing that there are paedophiles lurking behind every lamppost at twilight. Some UK airlines have barred men from sitting next to unaccompanied kids.

And the rules regarding male teachers are just as ludicrous. For example, if a female pupil in physical distress is crying for help, the male teacher has to be extremely careful if there is no other way than to make physical contact, or he could face serious criminal charges.

What man would want to be a teacher in these circumstances?

Result? Schools remain feminist and politically correct. Then boys react against the system. Then there's more male hatred, and more denigration of men.

And the vicious circle continues.

"Some UK airlines have barred men from sitting next to unaccompanied kids."

Is that for real? I thought the U.S. was the most paranoid country, but maybe not.

-Axolotl

"This phenomenon is also very visible in Canada where we are very quickly becoming a nation made up primarily of non-white peoples. Since generational Canadians are no longer breeding at rates anywhere near the level required to sustain the population, Canada has allowed -and continues to allow - millions of immigrants from the geographic regions Mr Duncan mentions".

The obvious question is, what does that have to do with men's rights? But it also sounds like you are against a multi-cultural society. I think I speak for most others on the board when I say that an "all-white" society, or something like that, is not what we are interested in.

Of course the other guys are welcome to respond:)

-Axolotl

I am in favor of a multi-cultural society and am not bias against any race. I am happy to welcome people of all races to Canada. All I ask is that if you come to Canada, become Canadian. We have a unique and rich heritage that you should be proud to adopt as your own and raise your children to love and uphold. I am opposed to the way Canada is going about it's immigration strategies for a number of reasons but not because I do not want peoples from different races here. I just believe Canada should adopt a more American style immigration policy to ensure that new Canadians are encouraged to adopt Canadian culture rather then import their own cultures and disregard the established Canadian beliefs and practices. Canadian first, anything else second. Right now it's the other way around and it's costing us what little culture and national pride we have. I do not want Canadians to address themselves "hello, I am (insert country here)-Canadian". Do not come to Canada if all you want is to use this country for your own gain while sending your money back to another nation and maintaining your national pride to another nation. If that country you came from deserves your love more then mine, and you still refer to it as home but live in mine and use the resources of my country with no intention of growing our economy or contributing to our society, then stay there. I would much rather simply "hello, I am Canadian" but if they feel the need to respect their heritage then "Hello, I am Canadian-(insert country here)"

But to get back on topic, the reason I stated my initial response like that is because the vast majority of the newcomers to Canada are not from European countries as was the case in previous decades, and we do not have low yearly immigration limits as the United States does so the changes to the culture are happening much more rapidly in Canada then in other Western Nations. This makes the phenomenon mentioned in the original article much more viable in Canada. Male children of Canada from European decent growing up in poor families are not fairing as well as similarly economically depressed children in Canada emanating from families not of European decent. What we used to call minority children are now not only becoming the majority of children in Canadian classrooms they are outperforming generational Canadian children of European decent.