Charged With Underaged Sex At 15
Submitted by Luek on Sat, 2006-08-12 05:12
Here is one that is hard to believe. A 15 year old male is to be sentenced this month because he had sex with an 11 year old female who subsequently got preggo and is now a mother at 12. If a 15 year old male can be convicted of having underaged sex then why can't the 12 year old female?
And to think this happened in the land of Braveheart. BTW: the 12 year old female was recently arrested for a "drunken incident." Get it?
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Age difference needs to be taken into account.
While I'd agree that if the age difference was a year or two, both should have greater responsibility, I think a 15 year-old has a significantly different sense of accoutability and reality than an 11 year-old. In cases like this I think the older child should be held responsible, regardless of gender.
Scott
@Scott: I disagree
I am of the opinion that NIETHER should be criminally responsable for the sexual activities that got this young girl pregnant.
There is a much larger grey area then you are allowing for. You are buying into feminist inspired BS about young people that just makes problems like this worse.
It is entirely possible that the 15 year old boy was not even in the 11 year old girl's league of sophistication and maturity due to her expeience with ciggarettes, booze and partying. Not all 15 year old boys are (in fact the vast majority are not) sexually smart, savvy and able to seduce a girl. The reality is most 15 year old boys have not even had 1/4 the sex education in school as their female class mates (at least Canada girls recieve three years more sex education then boys in school)
Also, it would seem that the young lady (crack whore prostitute in the making) in this particular story was far more developed then the typical 11 year old girl. She started drinking and smoking at 10. Was this boy her first sexual encounter? I am inclined to believe she was likely the more experienced sexually of the two.
Plus if you take into account western society's feminist ideology then you should also believe the one that goes "girls mature faster both physically and mentally then boys" I do not believe that at all and am of the opinion that each individual matures at their own rate, mentally at least. But if you do beleive that, then this girl would already be at about he same maturity as the boy. So again, why is only the boy considered mature enough to be held responsable?
I am certain this young lady thought she knew exactly what she was getting into and thought that she was completely mature. If she did not she would not be out on the town drinking it up every nigh?.
I find it odd that the article does not mention the parents of either young person at all. Where the hell were they when all this drinking and partying was going on? Neither of the two is old enough to buy alcohol or cigarettes so how were they getting them? Parents? Older teen age friends?
It does not really matter anyway, the young man should absolutely not be held criminally responsable for this. After all, he'll learn the hard way anyway when the foster care agency that took the baby goes after him for child support.
We really need to immidiately stop criminalizing teen aged sex (I personally think the government needs to stay the hell out of all sex except for actually violent rapes and child abductions but...). It certainly does nothing to stop it. When has prohibition ever stopped people from doing anything? Oh, that's right, it has never in the history of humanity worked. So we need to think of a new approach - especially when it comes to young people.
What is this this criminal record going to do to this young man's life? Does Scottland have a sex offender registry? When this boy turns 18 will he have to register? Will he ever be able to have anything approaching a normal life if he does?
Or will he just be punished over and over and over again for this "crime" so that he ends up unemployed, homeless, dead, or back in prison because he has been rejected by society? We are supposed to be MRA's here that want men to be treated like human beings and yet you are saying this young boy should have his life ruined by the government before it even begins? That sure will help our cause. This should be dealt with by the two families involved and no one else. There is no rape or child abuse in this case. he is not 50 he is 15 - there's a difference you know.
Yes it sucks when an 11 year old girl gets pregnant because she is not capable of supporting and caring for her child so tax payers usually have to foot the bill (because her parents are clearly unable to raise children either)
But putting some one in jail because of it certainly does not help anything.
Did anyone ask this boy if he wanted to raise the child? If he is the "more mature" and therefore more responsable - after all he's clearly not to young to be criminally accountable for his actions in most people's opinions - maybe he should have a say in how his child is raised? Maybe instead of a criminal proceeding he should be granted full custody of the child. That might make him act more like the man everyone seems to think he is.
I would be all for him getting the child if he was willing to accept the responsablity of caring for it. Though he should still have the opertunity to get an education and have a chance at providing a future for his child aswell. That's what his family should be for. To help care for the child while he is in school. It used to work that way but then along came feminists and the nanny state.
The point is, as much as us older folks don't like it, the simple truth is that some young people have been having sex since the dawn of humanity and some young people continue to have sex today and will continue to have sex forever. Locking them up and ruining their futures will not change it and if anything will make the young men (primarily the one's locked up) into less then productive members of society anyway so over all it's just making things worse. MRA's of all people should know this.
Plus, all this criminalizing of sex feeds into the whole "male = bad, female = good" crap. Do we really need this already utterly useless excuse for a human being of a 12 year old girl to remain in this state of complete uselessness for the rest of her life? Do we really want to put up with her behaving exactly the same when she is 30 because we told her when she was 11 that she was a victim - therefore excusing her from responsablity for life - because of HER utter stupidity? How many kids by how many men will she have by then that the tax payers will be raising?
Don't feed into this crap by saying that she is a victum and he needs to be punished. They are both idiots and need to be corrected so that they do not continue this behavior into adulthood. I am all for their respective families making them smarten up, but no one here needs a jail sentance to acomplish the task. Back before feminists destroyed the family, this would not have been the states concern. Sex in general should virtually never (since fortunatly violent rape and child abductions are extremely rare) be the states concern.
they're only kids!
hello
the harsh reality is, regardless of age female sexuality is held in higher regards than that of a male.
this chain smoking, alcoholic 11 year old has become the "victim". is it possible she initiated the sexual conduct towards the 15 year old boy..if thats true, considering their both minors, isn't she the rapist? sounds absurd, becuase it is! This whole case is a joke. the outcome will ultimately damage this young boys life. he is the VICTIM of an incompetent court system.
i don't believe a 15 or 11 year old CHILD has any concept of what rape is. rape is an act of violence, not two kids engaging in sexual experimentation. thats all it was, a bunch of kids curious about sex.
unfortunately, we live in a society (even scotland) that has become so paranoid regarding anything sexual as it relates to a perceived notion of male sexual dominance.
does this 15 year old boy even know what rape is, or does he even understand the charge? if this true, how could he be held accountable? i blame feminists (i always do), they have manipulated the court system with the assinine notion that all males (even children) are nothing more than sexual deviants and predators.
the court system should be helping them(especially the troubled young girl), not treating the boy like a criminal. the courts really need to identfy the different thought process children have.
this reminds of these idiotic charges of sexual harassment given to 5 year old boys because he gave mary-sue a kiss on the cheek during recess.
note to the the judicial system: lighten up! there just kids.
Nearly 3 in 10 young teens 'sexually active'
“Sexually active young teens - Nearly 3 in 10 (27%) thirteen to sixteen year-olds are sexually active and “have been with someone in an intimate or sexual way.” Most of these sexually active teens have touched someone else’s genitals and almost half had oral sex and/or had sexual intercourse. Sexual activity is much more common among 15 to 16 year-olds (41%) than 13 to 14 year-olds (14%).”
Following the feminist line of “reasoning”, there are scores of adolescent male rapists and adolescent female "victims" of rape. Of course the “innocent” girls get all of the pleasure and none of the responsibility. What would the fem-nags have us do, build more prisons to house these young male hooligans!?
Artcle Here
Yup, that's exactly what they want
fem-nags and their supporters in government would like nothing better then for us to build more prisons to put more 'sex offenders' away
Feminists will not stop until every man - boys will be allowed to remain entact until puberty for the sole purpose of medically collecting sperm to be wharehoused in sperm banks for women to use to get pregnant without having to be raped by a male - who has not volentarily undergone 'gender reassignment' and takes hormone therapy to surpress violent masculine urges. All males who do not volenteer to become second class women will be locked up, made into unics to prevent them from penetrating a helpless female if they should escape and then sold as a slave to serve the mighty matriarchy.
That is what feminists want. That is why we need to defeat that hatefull ideology and withdraw all special privilages that were awarded to women without any strings attatched thanks to the evil feminist empire.
On a side note - there really should be no such term as 'sex offender' as there were terms to describe people who used sex in the commission of crimes and tortured people sexually long before that term was coined. like rapist and sadist and pedophile.... these specific terms used to have specific meanings that described specific acts and thus were better suited to describing specific individuals and incidents rather then a virtually undifined set of actions/gestures/circumstances/astrological allignments ect... (whatever makes an individual woman uncomfortable is anything she claims it to be). I for one vote to take the word sex out of criminal vocabulary entirely. Rape is not sex. If we stop using the word sex to identify crimes, then maybe a few less women will believe that sex its self is a crime.
Do The Statistics Hold True In This Case?
This young girl has got to be the product of one of the most dysfunctional family units ever! Smoking and drinking at 10 and pregged up at 11! Also that goes to some degree for the 15 year old too. It would be interesting to learn if the often stated statistical fact that such children are the products of a single mother headed household holds true in this case.
If anyone has more personal details about these two children's family backgrounds please post it.
good quote
hello
"whatever makes an individual woman uncomfortable is anything she claims it to be"
that is the very same premise that makes sexual harassment laws a complete joke. essentially, sexual harassment is anything a woman decides it to be.
anthony