Dr. Murray Straus Testifies Before the NH CSM

During the June 2006 meeting of the New Hampshire Commission on the Status of Men, UNH Family Violence Professor Murry Straus testified on domestic violence issues, and answered questions regarding the Conflict Tactics Scale. Foster's Daily Democrat reported on Dr. Straus' testimony today, but as of this time the article is not available on the Foster's web site. Read more below to view a temporary version of the article. Also, an audio recording of the testimony will be made available from the NH CSM's web site later this month. Perhaps this information will help the NCFM-LA letter writing effort?

Researcher calls for women to stop abusing men

Wednesday, July 5, 2006

By Chloe Johnson
Staff Writer
ljohnson@fosters.com

CONCORD — Murray Straus says its time for a men's movement.

Posters and broadcasts on partner violence always portray male perpetrators and female victims, he said. According to his new research findings, that leaves the other half out of the picture.

He told this to the New Hampshire Commission on the Status of Men at their meeting Friday in the Legislative Office Building in Concord.

Straus, co-director of the Family Research Lab at the University of New Hampshire, recently completed an international study on partner violence among university students. His queries of more than 13,600 students revealed that the most common instance of partner violence is mutual abuse.

The second most common situation of partner violence is when the female is the perpetrator against the male, he said. This leaves the reverse — when males abuse females — to be the least common in practice, although the most common in publicity.

"I have a long-term prevention goal that I hope my research will make a contribution to," Murray said prior to the meeting at which he was asked to testify. He added that it's not enough to provide services for the battered, and that the solution is to stop the aggressive behavior in the first place.

He said it's possible to stop half of abuse by making it as reprehensible for a woman to slap a man as it for a man to hit a woman.

"If we want men to stop it," he said. "Women have to stop it also."

This is in part because his research indicates that abuse can escalate from one partner to both.

He said overall partner abuse has decreased since the problem was recognized nationally. However, he said, the change only applies to abuse by men, not against them. That's because society has not made a "big deal" out of abuse against men, he said.

Straus said he lauds the women's movement for calling attention to violence against them. Now, he says it's men's turn.

"We should make the same big deal about women hitting men," Straus told his audience. "That's one of the things your Commission can do."

Commissioner Marshall Hickok said the effort is blocked by society. "There's a perceptual wall we run into where it's not taken seriously," he said.

Straus said the fact that the commission even exists is evidence that people are taking the position of men more seriously. It was established by the Legislature in 2002.

"It's going to depend on a mass social change of opinion," he said. "And that takes a movement."

Straus said the study relied on self-reporting since partner violence is rarely observed and rarely reported.

He said violence usually has to lead to injury or a disturbance of the peace before the police are notified, and that is only a small fraction.

Straus said men are less likely to report abuse because of their own shame and the disbelief of other people.

"No one has waged a campaign to get men to come forward when they are victimized," Straus said.

Straus said female perpetrators of violence don't get reported by shelters because they aren't asked if they also hit the men. And women do not go to a shelter if they are the only one doing the hitting.

Research indicates that women are as likely to initiate violence as men, Straus said.

Straus said the offenses range from a slap to homicide. He said nationally women only commit 10 percent of homicides, but they commit one third of domestic violence-related homicides.

"Women rarely commit homicide," he said. "But when they do, it's a male partner."

Commissioner David Lauren asked whether the study took into account the reason women would be abusive. Straus said his research found that dominance is the primary reason people use violence.

People get violent out of anger and frustration, Straus said. He said they are frequently attempting to correct misbehavior or punish for wrongdoing.

Chairman Joseph Mastromarino said the problem is not based on gender, but on the ability to function in a relationship. He said people need to learn to deal with conflicts without resorting to violence.

Straus noted that there is a difference between the type of violence the different genders inflict. He said men cause two-thirds of the partner violence that results in injuries requiring medical treatment.

"Men's violence against women has more severe consequences both physically and mentally," he said.

But, he said, the other one-third can't be ignored.

Lauren agreed. "No violence should be ignored," he said. "It's a problem regardless of who perpetrates it."

Hickok asked whether there is a correlation between the changing roles of women in society and increased violence perpetrated by them. Straus said the issue is disputed, but there is a theory of that nature. He said his international study is consistent with the theory because countries with liberated women have more cases of violence by women.

"Does that mean we shouldn't have equality?" he asked. "No."

"Every social change — including desirable ones — has its downside," he said.

The commission asked Straus for advice on what kind of public initiative could help lower the violence against men.

Straus said the violence presentation programs in public schools need to be changed to address violence by females against males.

"Little by little — too little at a time — but things are happening," Straus said

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Any time I try to have a conversation with a woman, any woman about the subject of female on male violence, they immediately become combative and tell me: "You hate women", or "I guess you just want to kill all women.", or "Your a misogynist."
They simply will NOT listen. I have tried and tried again, and the result is ALWAYS the same.
Straus REALLY has his work cut out for him. It seems that before we can get a handle on this problem we can only count on reasonable MEN and men only, generaly speaking.
Most women either don't care that women are abuseive too or are secretly glad about it and pretend not to "get it".
And that's just it. The majority of American women "Don't get it".
Back in the 1970's we were told that it was men that "didn't get it". And there was probably some truth to that. But now it is women who "don't get it", or don't want to get it.
This is gonna be a very up-hill fight. We are up against feminists, complicit women, Wussie-poopie males, chivalrous Republicans, male-hating Democrats and gender bias judges. A VERY up-hill fight indeed.

(Sorry for the mis-spellings, but my computer's screwed up and the spell-check won't work)

Thundercloud.
"Hoka hey!"

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    Thundercloud said: This is gonna be a very up-hill fight. We are up against feminists, complicit women, Wussie-poopie males, chivalrous Republicans, male-hating Democrats and gender bias judges. A VERY up-hill fight indeed.

That about sums it up. The fems are pushing things downhill and we are having to push things uphill. The moment we stop pushing it goes backwards....they stop pushing and the momentum carries it forward.

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This Straus article is powerful and needs to be distributed widely. I am going to copy it and email it to the LA's at my Congressman and Senators offices who deal with DV. Sooner or later they will have to start acknowledging the reality of things. Election years can be interesting times. Get it public and make them comment.

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T-Cloud wrote --- "Any time I try to have a conversation with a woman, any woman about the subject of female on male violence, they immediately become combative."

Well, within the state-mandated feminist domestic violence model,("The Duluth Model"), it is required that men accept that "nothing she did PROVOKED my aggression against her."

A man in fact can never claim he was provoked by a female's violence, even if her aggression included sticking a knife in his chest.

Even less can he tell the cops about her perpetual verbal hysterics, threatening to leave with his kids, using the "I'll 911 you" routine.

It's interesting to me that feminists believe that anything a woman could do, any outrageous behavior at all, should never provoke a defensive response by a man.

This is quite insane.

This is approximately the thought process and ethical reasoning of a two year-old experiencing her first "no!"

Feminists are in truth, persons suffering from infantile personality disorders.

That's why they have been so successful with our elected politicians inside the beltway.

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The senator seems to be in deep denial that domestic violence does not include women.

oregon dad

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Straus said the offenses range from a slap to homicide. He said nationally women only commit 10 percent of homicides, but they commit one third of domestic violence-related homicides.

I wonder if this 33% DV homicide ratio is understated? Does it include the deaths of children killed by their mothers? Like Andrea Yates (killed 5 children, now having a retrial, trying to get the insanity golden pass), Deanna Laney (killed with a rock 2 children; crippled another, scored the golden pass at trial, found not guilty, clinically insane at the time of the killings)

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"I wonder if this 33% DV homicide ratio is understated?"--Luek

Yeah, good point. Women commit the overwhelming majority of infanticides. They commit family violence against children, siblings, parents, in-laws, etc. Women also batter and murder their female partners in lesbian relationships at a rate similar to that which exists in heterosexual couples. And don't forget that male victims of spousal homicide are almost certainly undercounted. When a woman conspires with a third party or hit man to murder her husband, it isn't recorded as a spousal homicide, but rather as a multiple offender killing. Plus women are more likely to use poison to murder their husbands/ male partners, and that may go undetected by police, and counted as an accident or suicide.

There are a number of ways in which the criminal justice system treats women more leniently than men for the same offense, with the result that guilty women are more likely to not be charged, or to be found not guilty, or to be given a lighter sentence.

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