"Feminism can prevent suicide"

My comment under userid "Matt at Mann":

'"Many men are the primary opponents of feminism, believing that women already possess equal rights both socially and legally. They view feminism as a movement to give women power over men, a fundamentally misguided belief. Though they do not realize it, feminism is not the problem, but the solution. These men are standing in their own way."

Patently absurd. You have no idea what you are talking about.

I edit and administer the MRM (Men's Rights Movement) news and info site mensactivism.org. I have been involved in the men's rights movement for over 15 years. You are right in that MRAs (men's rights activists) on the whole believe that at this point, feminism is about gaining power over men. This is easily shown by reading the many statements from leading feminists (not merely fringers, but leaders in the feminist movement) who proclaim the ultimate aim of feminism is to reduce the population of males to 10% of the species and keep them then only as breeder-stock, or to eliminate human males entirely from the species (exactly how and what they'll do to maintain the mutative genetic variation proven to allow higher mammal species to remain robust, I have no idea). Ones a bit less out there think that is going too far; elimination of men's human and legal rights will do fine (not that most of our legal rights have not already been vacated), but deliberate programs of elimination are just plain going overboard. (These are considered a bit on the moderate side for modern feminists' tastes and don't get invited to the Big Girls' table at the conventions.)

This is not how feminism used to be. While some early leaders in the feminist movement were known for hyperbole and getting a bit carried away, what they really wanted simply was equal rights for women under the law. Later, eliminating anti-female discrimination in society was taken on as a next important goal. All great stuff, and necessary, way overdo, and a remedy for indefensible prior injustices, esp. when looking at it from the individual's personal rights POV. But in the 1970s and 80s, feminism was in essence highjacked by ideological extremists. Don't take it from an MRA; read the words of former feminists who realized that they were unwittingly now part of a plan to reduce men to servitude or for some other feminists, eliminate human males entirely. When they realized that leading feminist groups like NOW were not at all interested in equality but dominance and had the temerity to call them on it, they got tossed out of the club. Some names: Christina Hoff Sommers, former feminist and author of "Who Stole Feminism". Warren Farrell, former president of the New York NOW chapter and author of a number of books on men and masculinity and how both are under sustained attack by feminists. Another person to look up is Erin Pizzey, founder of the first DV women's shelter in the United States, who was tossed out of the feminist club when she said she discovered that men were also DV victims and needed services as well. This was heresy and she was booted. Currently, another former feminist who is trying to deal with campus rape hysteria but was recently shouted down and needed campus security to restore order to the venue is Prof. Janice Fiamengo at Toronto University. Just Google for the videos. As for other examples, too numerous to mention; just Google "former feminists" and start reading. People don't leave such a popular cause because they like being the object of scorn of their former friends and associates. They do it because they realize they're on the wrong side of the argument, of justice and fairness, or some combination of these things.

Let me be so bold as to say that the typical MRA does not buy the line that feminism will help boys express their feelings by challenging their stereotypical self-images. What feminists do is shame boys because of the sterotypical self-images they have had programmed into them by both men and women and the other children around them. Feminists like to see boys cry in shame over their maleness and "patriarchal oppressive natures", etc., and not just hold onto that shame they have been taught but ingest more of it. I've seen it happen more than once. It is no surprise to me that male suicide rates have gone up since this more current, poisonous version of feminism has taken hold in our culture and in our schools. The way to help boys discuss their feelings is not to try to indoctrinate them into "patriarchal oppression theory" and add more shame to their psyches merely because they were born with penises and a tendency to produce more testosterone than women. They key is in fact to tell them simply this, as you would anyone, male or female: "It's OK to talk about anything you feel you need to; no one will get on you for it. As for crying, do it if it feels right. Any emotion you or anyone else has is what it is, and it's yours: anger, fear, joy, sadness, shame. And it's fine to talk about how you feel, any or all those things." Then let the boy talk. The same strategy works for men, too. And girls. And women. But when it comes to boys and men, feminists want us to talk only about what they want us to talk about.

So the point here is that if you want to assist anyone to discuss their feelings, you need not fall back on any "patriarchal oppressive society" bullsh*t. No feminist indoctrination. Simple humanity is all that is needed

But that isn't what feminists want from men or for men. If anything, to reduce the male suicide rate, society needs to get feminists the hel! AWAY from boys and men and allow them safe places to just be themselves, without any nastiness from feminists. They've had enough of that already.'

Maybe feminists are finally developing a sense of humor. I mean, what's funnier than laughing at a man drowning and throwing him a brick instead of a life jacket?

This term just popped into my head in another forum (about why women get choices but other people don't). It comes from the word "uterus" and means the belief the uterus is the center of the universe and the only thing that matters. Women have uteri, so they matter. People who don't have a uterus don't matter. That also includes an unborn uterus or a woman who chooses not to use hers (say, a nun).

Uterism: the belief that only women matter.

Uterist: a person who believes only women matter.

Of course, it's not in the spell checker yet, so you get a red squiggly when you use it.

Virtually all feminists are uterists. As such, they cannot imagine or comprehend that telling all men they're potential rapists will not help them to overcome suicidal tendencies. After all, a uterus makes one almost a goddess--if not The Goddess Herself. Whatever a woman does is good.