Men Deserve the Chance to Speak Out on Abortion, Too

Submitted by Mastodon on Thu, 2012-09-27 04:57

Article here. Excerpt:

'It’s not unusual to hear pro-aborts say that men don’t have a right to speak out against abortion. They don’t deserve a seat at the table. And now one pro-abortion advocate is going so far as saying that she wants to silence the voices of all men on abortion. According to this writer, who blogs at a website called Abortion Gang, because men can’t get pregnant, they shouldn’t be allowed to express any opinion on abortion whatsoever.

I want to silence all the male voices in the abortion discussion.

...The main anti-choice voices for the U.S. are also all men. In fact, the majority of persons in government who are anti-choice, are men. And none of them can get pregnant. The people who are making decisions that affect the lives of women, CAN’T EVEN GET PREGNANT!

And so, I want to silence the voices of all men. I am so tired of men giving their opinion about abortion. I am so tired of it that I am willing to sacrifice the voices of all the men who support women. I truly believe that if men were no longer allowed to speak on the topic of abortion, every country would be pro-choice. Anti-choice women get abortions too. Abortion crosses every religious, cultural, and political line. The only line it can’t cross is biological sex, and that is where the problem lies.

And she wonders why people equate feminism with misandry.

Most of her argument is factually incorrect – the majority of women are pro-life, after all – but let’s just ignore that and focus on the topic at hand. Do men deserve the right to offer an opinion on abortion?

The answer is absolutely, without a doubt, yes.'

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There is also the matter of men's lack of right to 'choose'. If a woman has the discretionary power to bring a child to term (or not), then shouldn't she be on the hook entirely for her decision? I.e., isn't she responsible exclusively for this decision? But let's say you don't want to go that far. Even so, if she can abort by the end of the first three months of pregnancy, shouldn't a man have the right to exercise a 'paper abortion', giving up all his rights and renouncing responsibilities as well? It seems that the whole matter of who gets to decide what is skewed heavily toward the woman. When people say "Well then he should not have had sex with her," I reply, "Yeah, well, maybe she should not have had sex with him, too." The arguments cancel each other out. In addition to the matter of life of the fetus vs. not, there is also this matter of fairness to men in the 'right to choose' argument. So far, it is a case that hasn't been made nearly often or loudly enough.

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Submitted by Matt on Fri, 2012-09-28 01:31

Roe vs WAde

"When women are compelled to carry and bear children, they are subjected to 'involuntary servitude' in violation of the Thirteenth Amendment….[E]ven if the woman has stipulated to have consented to the risk of pregnancy, that does not permit the state to force her to remain pregnant"

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Submitted by Rog on Fri, 2012-09-28 02:17

While I understand this article is about abortion, so the comparison is relevant, I personally find using abortion in the right to choose debate to be problematic when there is such an easier comparison. Comparing to abortion will always include issues of bodily sovereignty, and medical risk, that would not exist for a male choice to opt out. It also often comes with the strawman of "a man shouldn't be able to force a woman to abort". As well as the "a baby exists and needs to be supported, it's the man's responsibility because it's his baby and babies deserve to be provided for"

As such, I personally prefer to use the safe haven laws for comparison, as they exist in some form or another in most countries, and does precisely what men are asking to do, sign away rights and responsibilities of an unwanted child and leave them (rights and responsibilities) in the hands of someone who makes the CHOICE to raise the child themselves, or not (as the mother still has her own choices).

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Submitted by Kratch on Fri, 2012-09-28 15:45

It's our seed. And she took it from us. It doesn't belong to her, at least half that child belongs to the male. We should have at least 50% stakeholder power.

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Submitted by pacman7331 on Sat, 2012-09-29 00:49