'Men are not an oppressed group in society'

What a typical tactic for a feminist to use. Trying to shame us into agreeing with you is the oldest trick in the book. It doesn't work on MRAs because we are moral human beings whose minds work on logic, a foreign language to most feminists. No wonder everybody who disagrees with you is someone you equate to be like Marc Lepine. Just like everyone who disagrees with you is a 'misogynist'. Well I better tell my girlfriend, cause she knows I'm an MRA and doesn't think I'm a woman hater. She's a logical person, and unsurprisingly enough, she doesn't like feminazism.

So, men are not opressed as a group? Men are likelier to be the victims of violence, and much less likely to receive any sympathy when this occurs. Woman who commit crimes as sickening as sexual mutilation on male victims get lesser sentences than men get for less serious crimes, such as assault or sexual assault. Hell, men FALSELY accused and wrongfully convicted of rape end up serving more time in prison than women such as Lorena Bobbitt, Kim Tran, the woman in Bangladesh who castrated her victim claiming he tried to rape her, Amanda Monti, Rebecca Dawson, etc. All of these women got less than two and a half years in prison, Tran, Bobbitt, and the Bangladeshi woman all got no jail time. We live in a society that is afraid to punish female criminals at an appropriate level for their sickening misdeeds when the victim is male. How do you explain this phenomenon as being anything other than misandry?

BTW, do you watch TV? Do you not see all the denigrating anti-male ads, all the shows promoting people to hit men in the groin, cause its funny even though it's technically sexual assault. Were you not aware of how society's view of a man is based solely on what he can give to others? You should be happy that you weren't born the gender that has no laws protecting it from unnecessary genital cutting as an infant (circumcision). Well, male circumcision may not be as invasive as some versions of the female kind, the anatomical equivalent of male circumcision on a girl is removal of the clitoral hood. The fact that people would shudder at the thought of this, but have no problem with the male equivalent, along with countless other injustices, proves that men are second class citizens when compared to women. Perhaps if men got to enjoy access to the same number of scholarships women have access to, men would make up more than just 40% of postsecondary students. There are over 5 times as many female only scholarships as male only, and all of the male only scholarships require the student to be an athlete. It's not as great being male as you think, Bree. BTW, much like the cheese whose name is a homophone of your first name, your opinions are rather ripe.

Evan AKA X-TRNL
Real Men Don't Take Abuse!

I have a 50 slide powerpoint presentation that I have to deliver to between 200-300 people that refutes your point. I think men are an oppressed group, particularly in school, where it is completely obvious that boys have fallen behind girls in nearly everything, including mathematics and science (at least in Canada). Boys behaviour is often blamed for girls low self-esteem, but we never raise the issue of how “looking sexy” harms men psychologically. In schools, boys get painful erections, and are shamed by it, but this kind of shaming is not seen as a problem, while “slut shaming” is. Men are an oppressed group precisely because this kind of sex-bias pervades society. However, I do not raise these issues in the presentation. I can’t, because of the level of harassment I would become the victim of from the mostly female audience (that’s right – freedom of speech doesn’t reach as far as men’s issues, especially in education, where anyone who challenges feminist ideology will be harassed).

I read a good quote in the comment section of this website that said “Men care about women. Women care about women.” I thought that sentiment summed up what life is like in Western society.

It’s not a dream world kid. It’s a world based on mountains of empirical evidence and scientifically verified facts.

Did you know feminist produced a report in Canada that tried to criminalize websites like this one? Of course, it was thrown out as the retarded peice of ideological horeshit that it was. But still, it is possible that not only will masculinity be criminalized, but men having thoughts about men have rights will be criminal too.

I've posted fifteen or twenty times mostly about how my government - the Labor party in particular - has engineered and institutionalised discrimination against large numbers of victims of abuse. Of course the individual I was mostly talking to was insisting that the self identified feminist politicians are not the effective face of feminism. Not "real" feminists apparently.

That individual went on to insist my being raped by an aunt as a child was an act of the patriarchy.

I was the one censored.

My last post after getting sick of their favouritism and addressing the moderators was...

Mods ...

Whilst you think you're censoring a mens rights activist you are actually silencing an advocate for rape victims who's involved in the management of a statewide, fully inclusive network of rape crisis services.

While I know my way around the gender political landscape I am only a participant insofar as it represents victims who suffer discrimination.

Today you and your publication have become participants in the furthering of that discrimination. You have served yourselves up as exemplars of how oppression can occur for boys, men and not a few women and girls and how feminism can be at the root of it.

Whilst you have the power to silence my public words they are true nonetheless. Live with your own consciences.

The comment is "flagged for review."

A response is not...

Nice to know someone's working in rape crisis for men. However, I'd disagree. Whenever someone is protecting the rights of men, working to offer services for men who have been harmed or simply standing up when they're suffering discrimination that person is a men's rights activist.

Just because the /r/ MRA community is bigoted doesn't mean all MRA's are, and you're a shining example. What do you think the odds of this and/or your comment being removed are?

My three attempts at a brief response to this persons words describing the excellent and, above all, inclusive rape crisis network in my state have been deleted outright.

The only references they have left from me are those "flagged for review" which are empty and there only as placeholders for other comments.

I've been totally silenced. Given the original title the hypocrisy is outrageous and the behaviour intellectually dishonest.

After distorting the discussion now they close the comments and publish the majority of them.

They have disallowed completion of numerous points and responses to others both on my part and that of many others through that interference. It was impossible to know what was going on most of the time.

It just went from about 35 visible comments to over a hundred in moments.

Really dishonest exercise on their part.

I've had enough. I really need a shower.

When I first posted my comment, they deleted it as well. But that's okay. I just reposted it, and it's still there! I wasn't gonna pass up an opportunity to call Bree on trying to paint us all to be psychos like Marc Lepine. It's good to see that an overwhelming majority of the comments put the author in her place. It's but another torrent in our avalanche. Good job, everybody!

Evan AKA X-TRNL
Real Men Don't Take Abuse!

Men: While I am not aware of the situation to which you refer as I am a citizen of Canada, in the “Report on the Status of Women Canada” report, the authors used allot of material from Men’s Activist websites, chopped them up, and used them as “scare quotes” in a bid to criminalize even men’s thoughts about men’s rights. I can only assume that in your state, similar reports and bids to further repress and criminalize the thoughts of the male population were more successful. In Canada, the report was reviewed by a lawyer from the Fraser Institute, who commented that feminists have talked about the “white, male establishment” for many years, and even refer to higher learning and the thinking of the most brilliant minds that civilization has ever produced as the work of “dead white men.” The argument is that, because feminists are not only allowed, but encouraged to carry on with that kind of racist bigotry, you cannot justifiably silence fatherhood groups and other concerned Canadians who now argue against the “feminist establishment.”

Fight on brothers.

Can you source that info cwondermagic1? I'd be very interested in reading that, as I too, am Canadian.

Seeman, N. (2003, June 4) Feminists, masculinists, and blacklists. National Post. Retrieved June 20, 2005, from http://www.mensnewsdaily.com/archive/s/s-misc/seeman060403.htm. I just put the data in the search bar, and it says "page not found." Maybe if you contact the site, they can provide you with Seeman's (2003) article.

I also just searched the Status of Women Canada website for the 1994 report, and it does not show up in the search. Once again, if you contact the site, they may provide it for you.

I'll look into it. much appreciated.

I hope you check this out. I eventually found this feminist hate-mongering report:

It is the Status of Women Canada report on “masculinism,” entitled "School Success by Gender: A Catalyst for the Masculinist Discourse"