Letters to the editor Washington Post: A Justified Focus on Women and Girls

One at a time:

"A study from the Government Accountability Office concluded that even after accounting for "choices" such as work patterns and education, women earn an average of 80 cents for every dollar that men earn."

Surely they don't meant the report pulled from the DOL web site do they? See article here (.pdf file). Note the off-links at the right of the article as citation sources-- follow them and you get "Page Not Found". Well, they *were* there some time!

"Moreover, the GAO has found that women with children earn about 2.5 percent less than women without children, while men with children enjoy an earnings boost of 2.1 percent, compared with men without children. So mothers pay a penalty for their choices while fathers receive a bonus."

Possibly because men take riskier jobs on average and to get the man to stay risking his life or health after he becomes a father, they have to pay him more. Women on the other hand choose to have kids, then often choose to stay home with them or shift their priorities over to the kids, thereby putting less into their work. In the mean time, dad makes up the difference. That extra 2.1% doesn't go into his personal savings account, either.

"In more than 13 percent of families, women are the sole earners."

So 87% of households see men as the sole earner or a 2-income family exists. That is a much more dramatic and significant number.

These people are our "representatives". Please, take the time to let them know how you feel about their "reasoning". Contact info:

Maloney:
Phone: 202.225.7944
Web-based

Dingell:
Phone: 202.225.4071
Web-based (click "Email Congressman Dingell", choose "Michigan" as the state, and use one of the district office ZIP codes on the page to get to the mail form.)

...that her one-ring circus of "sexism!" and her one-horse parade of "women aren't getting as much!" have hit a minor snag...reality has a well-known anti-feminist bias.

As long as men and women continue to have children - even if there is no discrimination whatsoever - there will always be a difference in the amounts earned by men and women. I know that Baloney and crew believe that men should be penalized for this so that her dear sisters can get a free ride, all while women retain all reproductive choices, but I'm here to tell you that isn't going to happen as long as men are 49% of the voters.

When you see women in positions of authority like this one make statements of this nature,she must realise the error or she has no logic,don't you just wonder how we are being governed?
In my ex home town it was decided by the local council that a tea ladies job=a dustbinmans job so the former sued for 7 years back wages.

I smell baloney stinking (b.S.). If a good capitalist employer could get a chimp to work for 75 - 80% of what a man makes, AND DO THE SAME WORK, he'd fire every man in the workforce and hire all chimps. He'd do the same if women were as great a deal as we are led to believe. He'd have to do it, or the competition would do it, then drive him out of business.

Men Take Home 23 Cents An Hour More Than Women and Earn Every Penny

Definitely rancid baloney.

{Cabaret Voltaire}

What I find interesting is that she says that choice has nothing to do with it, then she references an article that specifically talks about the choices women make (ie: they choose to stay home or they choose to take on jobs that allow for greater flexibility).

Uhhhh...I'm not a Congressman or anything, but that sounds like choice to me.

What I find sexist: women have choices and men have responsibilities.

Do you think a lot of MRAs wrote letters to the Washington Post? I don't see complaining on this board or "straightening out" Reps. Maloney and Dingle as doing much good.

I suspect those boards are moderated and they won't print MRA's post even if they are civil.
Liberal boards are especially notorious for this.

Badger

"In more than 13 percent of families, women are the sole earners"

So, how many families are men the sole earners? Those politicians are corrupt and contemptible. That statement, standing alone, can be construed no other way but as an attempt to mislead.

-ax

"Low-light" as in it's mainly just us guys on here, and what we write doesn't usually appear in the New York Times.

And "Unique" in that I have myself, never actually said this before, BUT:

It was a huge mistake to allow so many *women* to acquire so much leadership responsibility in this relatively short period of time (about 30-35 years). And I do mean women, not just feminists. Besides, as Esther Vilar said,

"We should never put men's welfare in the hands of women. Most women will flush men's welfare right down the toilet"

-ax

I think this might be the original report here: http://clinton4.nara.gov/WH/EOP/CEA/html/gendergap.html

If I read it correctly, the report basically found a significant reduction, one variables like choice were accounted for, and found a statistically insignificant percentage difference that couldn't be explained; so it left the door open by

1) taking that statistically insignificant value and attributing it to discrimination; and

2) redefining discrimination to be so pervasive that it affects the decisions women make in their lives, and so re-attributing all accounted for differences of choice, back to discrimination.

Therefore allowing an interprettation like this congresswoman's to state that there is still a huge difference due to discrimination.
Also, the report is 10 years old...

http://usgovinfo.about.com/cs/censusstatistic/a/womenspay.htm

Yea, when you've got an agenda to push like gender feminists do, you have to very carefully select what you are going to present. Why does Maloney not cite more current studies which are available??? The more recent ones I've read are very unfavorable to her viewpoint/agenda. Is she being disingenuous?

As with most feminists, Maloney is being deceptive, not merely disingenuous...

"As with most feminists, Maloney is being deceptive, not merely disingenuous..."

As with most politicians, this is also the case. Imagine when you have a politician and feminist in one; that's like the mother of all decievers. That is the only thing that Baloney has proven.

Evan AKA X-TRNL
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