WSJ: 'Avoiding Kids: How Men Cope With Being Cast as Predators'

Same old story just a different day. Man bad, woman good. BlahBlahBlah. We can talk about how wrong it is every day but something needs to be done to correct this issue of blaitant stereotyping.

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recognizing that women are just as likely to sexually abuse children as men, it's just that it does not get called "abuse" when women do it. It gets called caring, or loving, or teaching, or any of a hundred other innocuous terms.

Just because men are the ones who are complained about means absolutely nothing with regards to what's really occurring.

If we stopped demonizing maleness and male sexuality both heterosexual and homosexual, no kids would complain about men touching them just like they do not complain when women touch them.

But it is ironic that our society is more fearful of a little girls vagina being touched by a man then the fact that women are responsible for 80% of all child homicides and completely dominate every form of child abuse other then sexual abuse such as physical abuse, neglect, psychological torture, starvation, humiliation etc...

Of course to listen to a feminist tell it, women can do no wrong and any abuse they commit is because they had no other choice and the only abuse that really matters anyway is sexual abuse because people believe only men do that so it must be worse because only men do it. So, it's far better to be dead then to have had your no no spot touched by a male when you were a child anyway because it 'destroys your soul' where as death only destroys your body and your soul goes off to heaven.

Not that I am saying sexual abuse is good or acceptable, but it's not always devastatingly harmful or the worst possible form of abuse either. I'm merely attempting to put it into perspective with some of the other risks children face. Considering that children are in FAR greater risk of being killed and subjected to every other known form of abuse while in a females care then they are in a males care, it would seem that we are certainly over reacting to both the risk and harm caused by sexual abuse committed by males against children.

This article, like dozens of others illustrating rampant, accepted, unquestioned misandry -- always makes me wonder:

Where are all the women who proclaim "I'm not a feminist, I'm not like them..." when their fathers, sons, husbands, grandads etc. are being so viciously assaulted in the media, in law, in politics, in religion, in the workplace?

When will self-proclaimed non-feminist women speak loudly about the criminalization and demonization of men?

The answer -- NEVER.

Why? Because they know it's a perfect power equation and a distinct advantage in the Gender Wars to keep the threats against men intact and growing and never-ending.

Every man in a relationship with a female is "sleeping with his enemy."

And cupcake has 911 on her cellphone speed-dial, count on it.

Enjoy the screwing you are currently appreciating, because the one you're gonna receive in the future will be even more expensive ...

This is an honest question. Since human beings usually seek companionship of some sort is it better for men to abandon women all together since women's special interest groups will NOT stop lobbying for unfair laws and women -- as a whole -- will NOT stop supporting them through their silence, misandric beliefs and use of DV laws they learn well in order to "steal from their mates"?

Since men are the ones that actually have a sense of justice and use their brains regularly is it better for most men to turn to a homosexual lifestyle where they would be able to commune with other men as opposed to dealing with lying, spiteful, childish women that will ultimately turn on them anyway? Women have shown that they will NOT say a damn thing about what men are going through unless they paint it with the women are suffering more brush. Most women that claim to fight for men have still not even given up calling themselves "feminists." To women it IS a zero sum game no matter how much they claim it is not. Thus I think Roy may have something when he says men are "sleeping with the enemy."

Although I am heterosexual I know plenty of homosexual men who lend more of an ear to men's issues than any women -- lesbian or straight -- ever have or ever will.

"the most outrageous aspect is the total and i mean TOTAL silence from women. hell, they could care less. makes me sick." ~ donnieboy5

"Feminism: The most organized form of nagging" ~ Peter Zohrab

*E-Group: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/No_Feminazis

Today I saw part of a Margaret O'Brien movie called "Lost Angel". It was about a six year old girl who was raised by scientists at an institute. The girl is a genius but she is looking for something a little more so she runs away from the institute to seek out a male reporter who befriended her. She wanders all over Manhattan being helped out by men until she finds the reporter who tries to return her to the institute. Unfortunately the institute was quarantined due to a case of measles, so he has to take care of her.

This movie was made in 1944. It could never be made today. Today Social Services would be down on everybody like a ton of bricks and the girl would be put in foster care. It just goes to show how much things have changed.

"Is It Better?"

Unlikely. (Especially given well known stats about promiscuity in the gay community.)

My take on your question is that heterosexual men in America are not about to go gay, in response to the unfortunate reality that the average American woman is more masculine in her psychology than her male partner is in his....

There is a reason why contemporary American women are so undesirable, so unsexy, so absolutely the opposite of feminine.

The culprit is 40-plus years of institutionalized feminism.

Women now pantomime being like men, only with a more nasty bullying mentality, more devious competitiveness, more guile, more passive-aggression.

Why would any heterosexual adult, thinking, conscious man find these harpies and skanks and raunch gals ... desirable?

Would you want to go to bed with your boss?

That's precisely the average sexual dynamic in the typical American marriage.

Shun women, inest in your own life, and let them learn the meaning of the importance of male INDIFFERENCE.

You go girls! (I simply do not care....)

...it is merely the byproduct of female greed and narcississm coupled with outdated chivalry. Moreover these women are not "acting masculine" they are in-fact acting like "women uninhibited." Men have a sense of justice, women don't. Greedy women -- and chivalrous men -- are what created feminism not vice versa.

You're blaming the product and not the source. Feminism simply did what women claimed it did "Made the PERSONAL(i.e. women's manipulative nature) political." Before feminism women manipulated men on a personal scale now they do it on a political scale. Subtle -- and emotional -- manipulation has always been VERY MUCH a FEMININE game moreso than a MASCULINE one. They have always manipulated from behind the scenes...think the sleazy advisor in the Lord of the Rings trilogy and the King of Rohan.

Feminism is no more than political nagging, jealousy, greed and self-centerdness. Something women have been guilty of since loooong before feminism came along. Remember everything women say about all men now was said about BLACK men -- by female racists -- even before feminism was brought about in America.

Moreover men ARE starting to turn to the homosexual lifestyle as opposed to being with women. not alot of men, but enough that women are taking notice. Do a search on the so-called "brother on the downlow."

Do I agree with turning gay to get the fuck away from women? Not really...but then again it is not up to me to tell another man what to do with HIS life.

Women HAVE NOT become masculine they are very much FEMALE. The only thing is their negative aspects are no longer being monitored as men have become wimps that cater to women exclusively.

Still I agree that the best thing is to ignore women. I have been advocating this for sometime but a pussywhipped man is hard to reason with.

"the most outrageous aspect is the total and i mean TOTAL silence from women. hell, they could care less. makes me sick." ~ donnieboy5

"Feminism: The most organized form of nagging" ~ Peter Zohrab

*E-Group: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/No_Feminazis

I first want to commend Paragon, Roy, and MrReality for their intelligent and insightful posts. I do not agree with everything posted, but none the less, very impressive.

Second, I would like to point out that this article was written in the Wall Street Journal. The Wall Street Journal is a very prestigious publication, which is read by many powerful leaders in the business community.

Third, the following will highlight some of the background of the feminist movement (not to be confused with a bowel movement, hmmm……, maybe they are more similar than original thought). The following is courtesy of Dave Usher.

Feminism as we know it came from the Women's Ku Klux Klan. In fact, many of the feminist slogans of the 1960's were stolen from WKKK broadsides of the late 1880's — where feminism first organized.
Feminists left the KKK in the mid-1930's after a woman doffed the KKK grand dragon using allegations of sexual improprieties. She ran the Klan for a decade — as proven in a Congressional investigation into the WKKK.
After feminists took over the KKK, they did not need it any more. they left the Klan, still applying their thinking and techniques to all men, not just black men. In the 1935-1960 era, they quietly studied VICTIM PSYCHOLOGY as espoused by Sigmund Freud, and studied the methods of various Frankfurt School intellectuals who migrated here from Nazi Germany after WWI. HILLARY CLINTON is a student of Saul Alinsky (a leading modern Frankfurt School advocate) when she was in college. Feminists then picked up sexual liberation from Kinsey's doctrines. The combination of free sex, victim psychology, and sexist techniques learned from techniques mastered during the KKK era is the exact basis for feminism as it emerged in the 1960's.
Read "Women of the Klan" by Kathleen Blee, and see www.dadsnow.org for more information on this.

Hoist the Jib!

Excellent post GreatMRNI!

Women of the Klan is indeed a very scary book. That book -- along with other research and actual testimonies from WKKK members --reveals the true origin of feminism. As I always stated the feminist movement never had anything to do with equality which is why feminists are not interested in equality. Phyllis Schlafly --and a bunch of other college-educated women -- were right across the way holding an anti-feminist rally -- during feminism's early days -- at the SAME TIME that the feminists were claiming women were not able to go to school or work or any of the other lies that they came up with.

Moreover Ms/Mrs. Schlafly actually already had a job. Further evidence -- from women's diaries and testimonies -- shows that these women felt better NOT working and having someone take care of them. The diaries also pointed out that many women did not want jobs which is possibly why they did not have them?

The movie Rosewood shows how a "cheating white woman" disrespects her husband by sleeping with another man -- another man whom beats her up when she gets too clingy -- and then manipulates her husband into thinking "a nigger" did it. This movie illustrates two things:

1. The white women behind the WKKK have always been manipulators and DO NOT have their men's best interests in mind.

2. Feminist women that claim to support blacks only truly support black WOMEN and still see black men as expendable. Racism has always affected the man more than the woman anyway since men are considered less than human in this society. This is how Oprah amassed her billions....by hating her own men.

Thus any pictures of white feminist women being "friendly" to black or even white men is a farce. Although many white males are very accepting of others many white females are not and the same goes for black females whom are quick to judge someone based on their appearance, socioeconomic status, education, etc.

Women are the biggest bigots ever.

"the most outrageous aspect is the total and i mean TOTAL silence from women. hell, they could care less. makes me sick." ~ donnieboy5

"Feminism: The most organized form of nagging" ~ Peter Zohrab

*E-Group: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/No_Feminazis

Just because you choose not to seek lifetime companionship from a female should not pigeonhole you into the homosexual lifestyle. I feel that we should be more understanding and supportive of men who seek companionship from other men in a purely platonic relationship. Once we learn to lend that sympathetic ear to our fellow man without belittling him even if you do not agree with him or hold the same views. I know that is one reason I turn to this site. I know I can talk about how these issues that affect other men and myself without being put down or shamed. While we may be able to hold an intelligent and sometimes heated discussions I know I am free to speak my mind. I think once other men feel they can have open relationships with other men without having to face the label of homosexual (in a derogatory manor) We would be much more inclined not to seek out the life time commitment of a woman for the cause of having someone to be open and honest with. As most of us have learned from being married or watching our friends who are married. Your "life partner" is just as likely to turn your deepest secrets and personal feelings against you later in your life. Much as most men feel will happen if they were to share personal feelings and emotions with the male friends in our lives for fear of persecution. Support out own and we can show women who truly needs who. That's my 2 cents.

First about the more serious aspect, is that 95% of the problem caused by all this paranoia, is summed up in the last sentence in the article:

"while we don't want sexual predators to harm our kids, we do want our kids to develop healthy relationships with adults, both men and women. Instilling a fear of men is a profound disservice to everyone"

Unfortunately that is a understatement.. it is not a disservice, it is a gross perversion of decency. When shitheads like John Walsh advise parents not to hire male babysitters, it is true that will minimize risk. But what the barf-bag is incapable of understanding is the bigger picture: the damage to society caused by the gender profiling of men. This does way more harm in the long run, than the molestation of a few kids, no matter how cold that sounds. But Walsh is a biased douchebag, and stupid to boot..his own kid suffered, so now he's going to make the rest of us suffer. His stupidity lies in his not having enough insight into the situation to see that he's doing more harm than good.

The second issue is a little more mundane. You know what most women's response to this whole thing is..and I do mean women, not just feminists..they will say, "well, the problem is largely due to men - I know just as many dads as moms who tell their kids to be fearful of men..so the men need to get on the ball and fix THEIR problem."
That is the same mentality as responding to the problem that most war deaths are men, by saying "well, men start wars so it is their own fault". One problem with this mentality is that it assigns blame to an entire class of people, whereas it is specific individuals (i.e. Bush) who are the problem (in the sense of sending us to Iraq, for example).

By analogy, I can only guess how enraged a feminist would become, if she were talking about the issue of women feeling under pressure to look beautiful, and pointing out that an epidemic of anorexia is a result of this. What would she say if told in response, "hey, look ..women put pressure on each other to look good; and besides, it is mainly women who write for and own the fashion magazines, and put on the shows; and besides, no-one is forcing any woman to be a model..so women need to get on the ball and fix THEIR problem!"
No doubt the feminist would immediately go beet-faced with rage, and start throwing punches and kicks at her antagonist..as a result of the confrontation, she will be late for her domestic violence seminar..

-ax

female babysitters molest kids probably more often then male babysitters so that whole babysitter warning is as useless at reducing risks as the whole unaccompanied minors not to be seated next to male passengers rule. No child has ever been molested on an aircraft full of passengers ever so there is no risk to reduce. Just as the fear of a male babysitter touching your kid is silly because the girl babysitter is probably (at least as likely as the boy as teen girls are raging hormone queens who experiment with vulnerable minors to) either touching you kid to or she's fucking her boyfriend while your kid watches secretly through the crack in their bedroom door. So get over it, the risk is there no matter what. Ladies can thank the feminists for making all the moms who used to stay at home with the kids go off to work, dump dad and start dating random guys every night creating the increased need for babysitters in the first place.

"female babysitters molest kids probably more often then male babysitters "

I thought Walsh at least had his evidence right?

-ax

...without anyone at all supervising them.

They are just playing mommy with some one else's kids, and it's certainly not uncommon for them to play boyfriend/girlfriend with the kids they are watching just like younger toddlers play boyfriend/girlfriend with their dolls. Plus, have you ever been a teen aged boy invited over to your see your girl friend at the place she was babysitting at? Back when I was a teenager I have, on several occasions with different girlfriends. I know we did not do much of anything to prevent the kids who were probably sleeping from seeing if they happened to wake up. If they snuck out of bed and peeked I'll never know but it certainly isn't impossible.

I have read one study on a Canadian children's advocacy web site that says the average age of a female sex offender is 14 because of all the experimenting young girls do with their younger siblings/relatives and children in their care.

Plus since we already know that boys are far less likely to even classify sexual abuse by a female as abuse and are far less likely to report it, this is probably a phenomena that is not at all uncommon. Plus, many parents still don't count sexual assault by females as abuse even if they are told - it's the old 'well aren't you lucky' attitude that is still pervasive. Even if the parents were upset, the police are less likely to take it seriously.

So there are huge obstacles to overcome at every step of the way to uncovering the actual rate of occurrence.

Plus, if you are a subscriber to that moron John Walsh's (who's wife is as responsible for the death of their son as anyone is) ideas on level of risk, then if it has ever happened once anywhere on Earth at any point in human history, then you need to do everything you can to prevent that risk.

Placing all the blame on boys is merely ignoring the actions of girls which is just standard practice in Western culture.