Women fought and died at Vimy Ridge?

Utterly ridiculous. If out of 60,000 dead people, one was female, current PC-ness will have them referred to as "women and men".

With feminism, it's about revising, changing, lies instead of truth-- power. That's all. Truth be damned. At once feminists will insist that war is 1. entirely an invention of men and 2. that it is inherently evil and not inevitable (I'd agree with the first part of (2) but not the second), and at the same time rush to claim the 'glory' that comes of it by placing women in places that they weren't all so they can be 'honored' in the same breath. With the amount of attention the 'female warriors' get, you'd think they were 80% of all the people on battlefileds throughout history!

The pardoxical thinking (or double-think if you prefer) is amazing. Never underestimate the power of cognitive dissonance-- or the depths to which feminists will sink.

Or should I call it "herstory"?. Feminists have attempted (and at times, succeeded) in manipulating the history books with fallacies regarding the achievements of women, and in this case the participation of women at Vimy Ridge. I wonder whats next? Michelangelo didn't paint the Sistine Chapel, rather some random female hand-picked from the Herstory library???

Anthony

While the numbers were not huge, women, serving as nursing sisters, in forward aid stations, were wounded and died throughout WW1, including Vimy. They would not appear on the official roles of the time because they were not considered to be combat deaths. That doesn't make them any less dead or less Canadian. Take a walk around the National War memorial in Ottawa (constructed after WW1) and you'll see a woman in uniform depicted among the military figures. For that contribution to have been noted in the 1920s the contribution had to have been real.

We know that men in Canada are worth 14/100,000ths of what a woman is. That's why we lower flags over 14 dead women, but leave them flying high on Remembrance Day, for which 100,000 men died. Your comment reminded me of that, PattiM. A few women died alongside thousands/millions of slaughtered men, but now feminist bureaucrats are busy trying to make it sound as if the sacrifices were "equal". Hence the 14/100,000ths value we assign to the lives of men. Thank you, feminism.

Women (as a group) are often given credit for things they haven't done in our media. That's a classical demand of narcissists, and it's more than met by the endless supply of unearned credit provided in the MSM and feminist propaganda.

For the women that DID serve and die alongside the men in WWI, I am grateful. The ones who piss all over the graves of thousands of dead Canadian men by running propaganda campaigns in museums - all to push feminist rhetoric - can go screw themselves. The men in my family who died in WWI and WWII would NOT be impressed by having their sacrifices minimized in this way, nor would the women who died along with them.

Keep coming back PattiM-- we'll have you de-programmed soon. Just keep reading.

Too bad you let slip away a golden opportunity to advance men's rights by confronting the tour guide over the disinformation about women dying alongside men at Vimy. I am sure other tourists were with you at the time and would have been enlightened about the falsehood being perpetrated by the politically correct guide.

I'm sorry you feel such a lack of worth RandomMan. What flags exactly are you claiming fly high on Remembrance Day? none around me. In the last 30 years I've only missed attendance and participation in one Remembrance Day observances and flags are flying at half mast until the conclusion of ceremonies.

..."National Day of Remembrance and Action on Violence Against Women". There's more detail here in Christie Blatchford's column on the matter from a few years ago.

ALL violence has victims. Most of those victims are men. But nobody wants to hear it, and we certainly do our best never to "remember" it.

Given that most domestic violence is mutual, and that women are as or slightly more likely to initiate that specific type of violence, I'm appalled that there is no equivalent day for men. Men are more likely than women to be victims of ALL types of violence, yet we never lower all our flags over that.

Sheila Copps decided that we should lower all Canadian flags on Dec. 6th because only women are victims of violence, you know. Compare this with the lowering of only the flag above the Peace Tower on Parliament Hill on Nov. 11th. Those were the orders of the Minister. The fact that some ceremonies choose to lower flags from time to time on Remembrance Day is a matter of preference. The disparity is a matter of government policy.

This dubious "honour" (it signals surrender when a military vessel/vehicle does this, so that's why it isn't done on Remembrance Day - certainly never on active-duty naval vessels the way it's done on Dec. 6th) was NOT extended to the hundred thousand or so dead Canadian men involved in various wars. Feminists like Copps are pissing on the graves of the men who died for this country, all out of narcissistic misandry. Yes, it's a tragedy when ANYONE is murdered, abused or otherwise the victim of violence. No, it's NOT a bigger tragedy when it happens to a woman.

That's how I know exactly what a man is "worth" in this culture. When the worth of men is the same as the worth of women in practice in this society, this fight will be over. Until then, we will fight for fairness against female-only privilege, misandry and the mistreatment of men. There is no "Status of Men Canada". Canadian health care systems pay for breast cancer screening (including expensive mammograms and soon MRIs), but not prostate cancer screening (usually a $25 blood test). Women have better access to health care, education AND employment, they live 6-8 years longer, and we STILL send men to debtor's prisons and freely mutilate their genitals (as unconsenting infants) - a practice that became widespread in the west as a way to control male sexuality and masturbation in the 19th century. There's plenty of fighting left to do. 1:1 is a long way from 14:100,000.

I'm assuming your a female. Always interested in a females philosophy on the issues discussed. However, I usually disagree with female idealogy.

Patti M writes... "you'll see a woman in uniform depicted among the military figures."

We call that political correctness. Similar to pictures of female fire fighters as heroes during 9'll. I'm sure there were a few, but our "pussified" society is so consumed with female lives having more value than that of a male's. This is why their depicted in history books incorrectly, their contributions don't deserve hero status when men ultimately perish during war

I've always hated the term "The Men and Women who have died in Iraq." I have never heard a person in the media ever say "but don't forget 98% of thoses killed were men"

Enjoy!

Anthony

You may call that political correctness Anthony however, you need to pay attention to the fact that the National War memorial was built just after WW1, not in the age of political correctness. For a woman to have been depicted at all, the contribution would need to have been significant. Since it wasn't a woman who designed the memorial, you have only a fellow male to blame.

When Sheila Copps develops a brain, I might just give a damn what she thinks or says. As for the lowering of flags on Remembrance Day, that is the appropriate protocol and not just local practice. You will especially see this practice carried out by veteran's organizations throughout the country who carry out the services across the country on Remembrance Day.

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