Article on "sex recession" ignores the obvious

Submitted by Matt on Thu, 2018-11-15 23:02

Article here. Excerpt:

'Gen Xers and Baby Boomers may also be having less sex today than previous generations did at the same age. From the late 1990s to 2014, Twenge found, drawing on data from the General Social Survey, the average adult went from having sex 62 times a year to 54 times. A given person might not notice this decrease, but nationally, it adds up to a lot of missing sex. Twenge recently took a look at the latest General Social Survey data, from 2016, and told me that in the two years following her study, sexual frequency fell even further.
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Fisher, like many other experts, attributes the sex decline to a decline in couplehood among young people. For a quarter century, fewer people have been marrying, and those who do have been marrying later. At first, many observers figured that the decline in marriage was explained by an increase in unmarried cohabitation—yet the share of people living together hasn’t risen enough to offset the decline in marriage: About 60 percent of adults under age 35 now live without a spouse or a partner. One in three adults in this age range live with their parents, making that the most common living arrangement for the cohort. People who live with a romantic partner tend to have sex more than those who don’t—and living with your parents is obviously bad for your sex life. But this doesn’t explain why young people are partnering up less to begin with.
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For nearly a decade, stories in the Western press have tied Japan’s sexual funk to a rising generation of soushoku danshi—literally, “grass-eating boys.” These “herbivore men,” as they are known in English, are said to be ambivalent about pursuing either women or conventional success. The new taxonomy of Japanese sexlessness also includes terms for groups such as hikikomori (“shut-ins”), parasaito shinguru (“parasite singles,” people who live with their parents beyond their 20s), and otaku (“obsessive fans,” especially of anime and manga)—all of whom are said to contribute to sekkusu shinai shokogun(“celibacy syndrome”).
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In their 2015 book, Modern Romance, the sociologist Eric Klinenberg and the comedian Aziz Ansari (who earlier this year became infamous for a hookup gone awry) describe Ansari’s visit to Japan seeking insights into the future of sex. He concluded that much of what he’d read about herbivore men missed the mark. Herbivores, he found, were “interested in sexual pleasure”—just not “through traditional routes.” Among Japan’s more popular recent innovations, he notes, is “a single-use silicone egg that men fill with lubricant and masturbate inside.” One night in Tokyo, Ansari picks one up at a convenience store, heads back to his hotel, and—sorry for the visual—gives it a go. He finds it cold and awkward, but understands its purpose. “It was a way,” he writes, “to avoid putting yourself out there and having an actual experience with another person.”'

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Women are reticent to admit they want sex to the point they'll live for decades without it if no man (they want) approaches them. Some are not like this but very few.

Men are finding other ways to get sexual gratification without approaching women or having rel'ps with them because the price is too high and payoff too low. Aside from sex, women don't offer men anything they really want. Unless a woman is ready to put out steadily in the long term, men have no use for them. They eschew doing things that used to make them useful to men aside from sex.

Most women will do nothing to "sell" themselves to men. They typically make little effort to appear feminine or attractive and more importantly rarely have the courage to even introduce themselves to men much less to a man they fancy. Since men are increasingly put off from bothering with women, it's natural to expect that the amout of sex between the sexes will drop. Men are learning they don't require women for sexual gratification even if they don't turn to other men for sex. Further avoiding actual sex keeps their lives a lot simpler and safer. The easiest way for the average man to get in trouble is for him to be around women. One accusation of any kind and life gets hard. Jerking off to porn is safer and probably more fun than actual banging for many guys.

Short version: If men don't pursue sex from women, sex isn't going to happen. The less men pursue sex with women, the less sex happens. It's that simple.

This article does contortions around the reality of the past 50 years and why women are much less attractive to or considered worthwhile by men. It ignores 500-lb. gorillas admirably.

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Submitted by Matt on Thu, 2018-11-15 23:03

An article writen by a woman, about women's sexual experience in the post-feminist world, blaming men for not being interested in sexual relationships with women because men prefer pornography and masterbation.

Well, I have to agree. The sexual revolution has been round for a while. Women have had access to birth control and their sexual fulfillment has been investigated and marinated and propagated across universities, glossies, broadsheets and feminist hate fests internationally for four decades. What could possibly be wrong?

I mean, it's not like this woman's understanding of male sexuality is trivial, stereotyped and shallow. She clearly understands that all men want sex with any woman all the time because all men are adolescent penises (dick heads), and men's sexual satisfaction is guaranteed on ejaculation.

Who could ever imagine that men might be more complicated than that, and that the sex recession may reflect men simply losing interest in having sex with people who don't understand them or even listen to them, and describe masculinity as a toxic scourge on society.

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Submitted by rabel111 on Fri, 2018-11-16 04:57

Many (and I do mean many) of us, as modern women, rubbish men, endlessly!We call them "creeps", "misogynists" (at the drop of a hat), call them, an assorted range of barnyard animals, from "dogs" to "pigs",shame and blame them for pretty much everything.., even the smallest of "infractions", claim they are "inferior" to us all while needing special considerations, special rights and privileges and vastly lowered standards, just to compete with them, we accuse them of all types of monstrous things such an "misogyny", even where there clearly is none, "toxic masculinity", when they are simply behaving naturally, yet claim "masculinity so fragile", we accuse them of "rape" when we are drunk and make dopey decisions(our own decisions, mind you), we call them "privileged", despite the 80% male suicide rate (both in the U.S. and here, in the U.K.), the fact that 85% of the homeless are men and the fact that women far outnumber men at university. We say they are "oppressing" us, when clearly no oppression is occurring.We western women are the most pampered, protected and free human beings, in human history (and no that isn't hyperbole). We blame them for every ill on earth, including things they (or no mere mortal) have any control over,we constantly say things like "I don't need no man!", "Men suck", "Men are trash", "#KillAllMen", and on and on and on...

Then, we have the audacity to ask; "Where are all the good men?", "Why don't men want to marry us?", "Why are so many western men forsaking us for Asian women?" (which is fine with me, as I am of Asian heritage, as well), "Why don't men 'man up' and marry us?"

It's so, very ironic, too. Because anyone with half a brain knows, that if men were doing all this to us, the outrage would be off the charts! The U.N. would be rocked to its core, there would be a rush to make worldwide legislation to stop "hate-crimes-against-woman", focus groups would form immediately to discover the "problem", etc, etc. (Not much of an exaggeration, either).

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Submitted by ErikaLancastor on Mon, 2018-11-19 19:20