Syndicate
Special Thanks To...
The following organizations were early supporters of Mensactivism.org, and we thank them for their support. If you'd like to trade links with us, see our Mensactivism.org supporters page.
"Honoring Service Women"
Submitted by ThomasI on Tue, 2014-11-11 14:28
Story here. GREAT IDEA!!! Now let's have a SEPARATE honor for Black fallen soldiers, Hispanic fallen soldiers, Asian fallen soldiers, fallen soldiers from New York City, fallen soldiers with red hair, fallen soldiers who are bald. Leave it to feminists to make it all about ME ME ME ME ME. Excerpt:
'Navy Capt. Nancy Lacore knows valor has no gender. She recently completed a grueling 160 mile run in seven days to honor the 160 US servicewomen who died in Iraq and Afghanistan.
That’s one mile for each women who sacrificed her life for her country. Lacore, who served in Afghanistan, wanted to do something to raise awareness of the women who died in service.
...
One by one, supporters placed the ribbons holding pictures of the fallen women on the marble walls of the memorial. And then it was Lacore’s turn to remember Maj. Megan McClung, the first female Marine officer killed in Iraq.
“They died for us,” Lacore said. “They died serving our country and sustaining our freedoms.”
The Valor Run raised over $30,000 for the Women’s Memorial and for Wounded Wear, a charity that provides special clothing for wounded warriors.'
- Log in to post comments
Comments
Not *necessarily* a feminist endeavor
Indeed, feminists are by and large dead set against women being in combat-- but not being "denied" promotion opps. because they haven't been in combat.
One can't say if Capt. Lacore or anyone else involved in that endeavor does or doesn't call herself a feminist, or if so, really fits the definition. But one thing is for sure: It seems ppl of *both* sexes seem to rush to heap praise on women for taking even a small part of the kinds of physical risks that men are expected to take without a second thought of it. However let a man try to assume tasks or expectations traditionally associated with women (nursing, child-minding, etc.), and he's either ridiculed, suspected of nefarious motives, insulted, made the butt of jokes, or any combo. thereof.
Wouldn't it be quite a thing to one day see ppl of either or both sexes doing some kind of event like this one to encourage men to do things atypical of their trad'l sex roles, like child-minding or nursing? Quite a day indeed.
So
Why didn't she run a mile for each man killed in battle?
She'd still be running.
But, give her credit: she ran a long ways in seven days. I couldn't do it. Maybe once, but that was too many beers ago.
We should ask feminists to run steps for men, then...
We should ask feminists to run steps for fallen servicemen, then steps for fallen servicewomen. Wow, talk about a way to impress these dullards with the reality of male disposability and misandry.
Vietnam - 58,000+ steps for men
- 8 steps for women
Given that male deaths and casualties are still 97+ percent in Iraq and Afghanistan, the disparity would still be very impressive.
Who'll be the first MRA, or MHRA, to film the first "Male Disposability Manathon," then post it on Youtube. :-/ I volunteer to run the servicewomen's leg of the "Male Dispoability Manathon" for Vietnam Vets.
Let's record a "Male Disposability Manathon" & post it
"CRS Report for Congress Prepared for Members and Committees of Congress A Guide to U.S. Military Casualty Statistics: Operation New Dawn, Operation Iraqi Freedom, and Operation Enduring Freedom
Hannah Fischer
Information Research Specialist
February 19, 2014"
http://fas.org/sgp/crs/natsec/RS22452.pdf
According to this info it appears to be 159 servicewomen (which is very close to 160), but 6,616 servicemen, using the same info.
http://fas.org/sgp/crs/natsec/RS22452.pdf
What distance is 159 steps?
What distance is 6,616 steps?
Go to page 8 for breakdown by gender.
Gender distribution of deaths
What would this disparity look like when the disparity in distance is recorded and posted? :-/
Manathon distance for current U.S. conflicts
I am of average height for a man. I walk for exercise and have a digital distance meter set to my step distance of 30 inches.
@ 30 inches per step/ 1 step per casualty/death
Servicemen 5513 yards - (55 football fields)
Servicewomen 133 yards - (1 1/3 football fields)
...because
...because she would have had to run from New York to Los Angeles, then back to New York, and after that she would have only had to run another 1,028 miles to run a mile for every Serviceman's death.
Starting in Los Angeles, she wouldn't even get out of California on her run honoring Servicewomen. :-/
Using the same data she used:
http://fas.org/sgp/crs/natsec/RS22452.pdf
Go to Page 8:
159 female deaths
6,616 male deaths
Distance from L.A. to N.Y. is 2,794 miles according to shortest route, I-80 W.
Distance from L.A. to Blythe, CA is 223 miles.
While I share the outrage
MR: I do share your outrage at how the media that day focused on women.
But to compare death rates could undermine the point to be made.
Some women have died for the country: 2%
But the issue here is that this woman is in uniform (she is still serving, representing the military as whole). And the disgrace is that she picked out who she would honor, by gender.
That is what I find vile about what she did and how the media went along with it -- she encouraged separation; she undermined the integrity of the whole. THAT is the evil act that is unbecoming of an officer.
I agree, but...
I agree that while the number of women is small, their sacrifice should in no way be disparaged. At the Manathon a runner representing their loss should just stop with head bowed to honor them, but men's sacrifice should be shown for what it truly is. Our society should recognize that.
I heard a liberal, leftist teacher at my college, who was visiting from UCLA, talk about women and men's sacrifices in Vietnam like women were under-recognized and due equal recognition for equal sacrifices. I walked out on his trash-talking stupidity. I've seen other teachers and students do similar, ignoring the gender-death-gap in the military, but not ignoring things like the feminist conjured "wage gap myth," base on discrimination.
As they say in courts, "I want the whole truth." Rarely if ever do we get that from the gender feminist side.
"Now let's have a SEPARATE
"Now let's have a SEPARATE honor for Black fallen soldiers, Hispanic fallen soldiers, Asian fallen soldiers, fallen soldiers from New York City, fallen soldiers with red hair, fallen soldiers who are bald."
And once they've succeeded, they'll whine that remembrance day is all about white dudes and that others were relegated to their own days. You know, like they do with everything else... Actor is the male normative for actors, while women are actresses... never mind that actor is technically the gender neutral term and men just don't have an alternative like women do... not that actor is male normative.