Men Who Disagree With You Are Not Evidence Of Misogyny (Or Trolls)

Submitted by Mastodon on Sat, 2012-12-15 01:22

Article here. Excerpt:

'Misogyny is a real thing. It is a real thing, it exists, there are societal biases against women all over the place (I tried to begin listing them, but I figured you didn’t want to read a 40 page long article). It is not a made up term. And there are many ways it manifests itself.

However, it is notable that none of those ways are evident in Sarah Jaffe’s “Memories of My Misogynist Trolls*” piece on Jezebel. The only thing the much discussed pieces seems to indicate is that if you pick disagreements with people they will yell at you. Just as people have been doing with other people essentially since the dawn of time.
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This is certainly a story about gender, but not the way Jaffe thinks it is. If Jaffe had been a man who interrupted someone’s conversation and demeaned their opinion – in a bar, where people had been drinking, and thanks to the presidential election tensions were already high, although, to be fair, you do not find many tea-party members at bars in Greenpoint – he certainly would have been yelled at. There is a very high chance that a physical altercation might have occurred. And no one would have sat around patting man-Jaffe on the back to soothe him, because, well, it’s understood that if you provoke arguments with strangers that’s a possible outcome.
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You’re a feminist because you don’t like men yelling at you? That is not a reason to be a feminist. That is a reason to join a role playing community with a strong emphasis upon chivalry.

Being a woman and being a feminist does not give you a free pass to go around antagonizing strangers with no repercussions. Feeling shaky and victimized afterwards certainly doesn’t make you a feminist hero, it makes you a person who does not anticipate other people’s responses well. There is, to my memory, no episode of the Mary Tyler Moore show where she goads a guy into a bar fight and then, after he is ejected, sits at a table, tearily murmuring “I’m a feminist. A feminist” to her friends.'

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She could've thrown her drink in his face and even if he hadn't reciprocated, just yelled at her, she'd've gotten the same "sympathy" and he'd've been tossed out of the bar. Nymphotropism knows no limits!

Anyway, the author also claims misogyny is everywhere. Looks a lot more to me like misandry is what's everywhere. The author's own writing shows it.

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Submitted by Matt on Sat, 2012-12-15 18:51

Open Misandry and bigotry of all kinds is on going in Washington,with no shame as long as it's directed towards males..There are politicians who declare the GOP has to many "Old white Men"..And there are many in Washington who are saying "That anybody opposing Susan Rice must be a racist or a sexist...this has also been implied in the mainstream media. The point being that a male cannot question a female's competency for any reason without being accused openly and shamelessly of being a sexist,..pathetic.

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Submitted by jazzman on Sat, 2012-12-15 23:28