
Ruth Bader Ginsburg: "We would have a healthier world...if men shared...responsibility for bringing up the next generation."
Submitted by Matt on Sun, 2011-11-06 21:34
From Marc A.:
Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg recently told California Lawyer Magazine: "In fact, I've said quite often that if I were to invent an affirmative action plan, it would be to give men every incentive to be close to children. We would have a healthier world, I think, if men shared women's responsibility for bringing up the next generation."
Does this mean she would have affirmative action for fathers in child custody cases?
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Don't know where to begin
Well most men who have children would be much more involved in the child's upbringing if:
1) In cases of divorce, women didn't usually get custody
2) Mothers did not so frequently act as "gatekeepers" and/or denigrate the efforts the fathers of the children put forth to take care of them
3) Employers encouraged new fathers to take time off and/or just plain didn't penalize them for doing so
4) General social and legal attitudes didn't see fathers as disposable and/or vestigial at least and a nuisance or danger at most
5) The gov't didn't reward single mothers for staying single and/or having more babies
Etc., etc.
It's commentary like hers that falls into the category of "insult to injury."
Here's the deal
If Ginsburg wants men to share in the "responsibility" of bringing up the next generation, she must also be prepared to defend men's rights to be with their children.
If she's unwilling to protect men's rights to be with their children, she has no right to demand they take responsibility.
let's see
Basically Matt, what you are inferring is that it would take a major overhaul of our system to institute a Humane system that would treat the Citizens as actual Citizens and Human Beings? If indeed that is your point, I have, and will agree until those changes take place. We need to cut off the head of the snake as it were. Sharpen your knives boys, and know that the Women around you are being played just like you. Hint, it's the system and those that endeavor to preserve it that need fixing. The more we fight amongst ourselves, the less rights we have at the end. Something of a conundrum, eh what?
David A. DeLong
Someone thought of a solution
Ginsburg's comments reveal a tremendous ignorance about human history.
Essentially, the solution every civilization (including this one, until recently) came up with was marriage. Marriage gave men a way to share in the upbringing of the child and in the responsibility for that child. But marriage today is a joke--the woman can leave when she wishes, take the children, send dad a bill, and jail him if he doesn't pay.
The problem is, marriage required women to share their reproductive lives with men as equal partners. What women today want is reproduction on their own terms. Get pregnant when they want, abort if they want, adopt it out if they want, abandon it if they want, or keep the child if they want. Dad just goes along with her choices but then is expected to pick up the bill. Unmarried parenthood rarely results in equal rights and responsibilities. But feminists, such as Ginsburg, don't like marriage--it gives the man rights to the child and it requires her to keep her commitment to him. Feminists, in particular, don't like responsibilities or obligations; they call them "oppression."
Marriage gave men responsibility for the child in return for rights to the child. Women today don't want men to have rights to the child, just responsibility. That's unfair and it doesn't work. The only reason it's working that way now is because of the user of raw power by the government, usually in violation of basic human rights.
Ginsburg needs to get her head out of her behind. If she wants men to share in the "responsibility," she needs to be prepared to give men the right--not easily taken away--to be fathers to the children, not just ATM machines to mom.
They asked me if they could
They asked me if they could publish my comment in their print edition. I find that interesting.