"The Bachelor" gets slapped, says he "deserved it," gives slapper roses

Watch it here. As long as we have men who are ready to excuse violence done to them (publicly, no less), then does the movement really stand a chance against the tide of self-loathing so many men have internalized? If you didn't find that clip very disturbing, then may I suggest you consider the idea that you are like a fish that has been swimming in dirty water for so long, he doesn't even know clean water when he sees it.

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Men get killed, maimed, blinded, tortured, castrated, and all sorts of other nasty things done to them in war, and nobody gives a shit. OK, maybe their family cares. But very few others. It's what men are expected to handle.

In light of that fact, why is anybody going to make a big deal about one slap? We, the MRAs, need to focus on the gross miscarriages of justice and equity, like the fact that only men get drafted to go to war. Another example, circumcision is legal only for boys, not girls. War wounds last for the balance of your life, as does circumcision. I doubt the slap that the bachelor received is going to have much of a lasting effect on him.

I don't find this clip "deeply disturbing" -- I find it common and just another reflection of the power differentials between the sexes. To complain about it, to make a big deal about it is ill advised. If we do make a big deal about it, women will say stuff like "come on guys, can't even take one slap?" And on a certain level they are right. To make a big deal about this is to ignore a lot of much more serious stuff that's going on.

We need to prioritize our fights so we don't piss away our activism time and effort on inconsequential stuff.

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Wow. If that is really true, then he should have broken/flattened her nose. Just to send a message that that particular form of expression deserves a rebuttle.

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When he doesn't get a 10% pay raise, and she pushes him down the stairs, he will know that he deserved that too. He can tell the EMS workers that he was clumsy and fell down.

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How can she slap???

Sorry, couldn't resist... at least he was willing to protest the violence against him.

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I don't believe for a second that the producers did not know that was coming. I would even be willing to bet that producers thought it up and wrote a little line about it being from "all women in America" for the girl to deliver. This is a show, all cameras are on and EVERYONE is getting paid and has an agenda to keep the show in high ratings.

Although the slap may have been a surprise to the guy, he is in an artificial environment and camera are on him and he knows producers are going to set him up for all kinds of things. This is in no way a natural situation. I am even wondering if sound effects were added in post production as she did not even pull her arm back far enough to swing that hard and the "slap " sound seems to come slightly before contact is made. Also there are three "cuts" in the scene (change of camera angle)which is a good indication it was staged or shot serveral times and then edited.

However it is still wrong and it is terrible that TV shows promote this double standard.

I would have loved to seen him hit her back. Now that would give people something to talk about the next day and would be a show I would watch.

I tend to agree with redwoodwriter's comment above.

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I think when you avoid issues like that, "power differentials between the sexes", you leave a seed of doubt. Are women more justified in hitting men? Are women more good than men? Are men less of victims? And so on... Then do we treat women more leniently even when we know she did something very wrong?

However I really do like what you wrote and I'm am mostly in agreement. But I think the usefulness in this is to question that power dynamic at the core; so that we give men respect and women accountability. In other words if women shouldn't ever slap men then they certainly shouldn't murder them and expect lighter sentences.

I personally do get offended at stuff like that, but your right, its nothing compared to the draft. The examples you give are great ones to focus on, over women slapping because they are very serious and widely applicable/relatable. So I'm mostly in agreement with you.

The one thing I want to add is that a big part of changing politics is just about changing common public perception, IMO. So we can give valid and logical arguments to change misandric policy but we also need to be calling out common, and small but obvious, misandry such as women slapping men. What I'm saying is that we as individuals need to point out the less dramatic things, like in life or the videos on YouTube. So I think when people point this small stuff out here it is so that we will internalize and spread it to others using simple means but when it comes to politics, lobbying, and slogans well stick the the bigger things.

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Btw I'd be very offended if a woman slapped me. There is something wrong when someone just takes it so easily.

I remember the first time a saw it in real life, as a gender thing. I think I was in 6th grade. The slap was part of a play but the girl intentionally slapped him instead of acting and the female teacher let it slide. I knew then that it was wrong, the gender part, and I wouldn't have let her get away with that on me. It was my friend and he was also offended, and I'd assume their are enough people that the double standard doesn't sit well with.

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