Is it our fault men won't give up seats for mothers-to-be?

Article here. Excerpt:

"When it comes to excuses, I like to think I've heard them all.

But this one beggars belief: according to a new survey, the reason why a tired, aching, heavily pregnant woman is left to stand on public transport - and, yes, we've all seen her -is because those healthy young men, sitting so very comfortably nearby, are just too embarrassed to offer her their seats.

They are, apparently, tormented by the thought that she might not actually be pregnant. Just fat. So better by far not to risk insulting her.

OK, chaps. If that's your story, you stick to it.

But now tell us this: why do you also neglect to offer your seat to a woman where there's no room for doubt? Because, say, she's elderly? Or carrying a child? Or struggling with shopping?

Or - if this isn't too radical a thought for you - simply because she's a woman?"

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A never-ending stream. Actually, like the author, my older brother is very nymphotropic. The idea that men could be DV victims is utterly foreign to him. The idea also that women may want to initiate divorces simply because they have found a "better possible husband" or are just plain done with the whole thing is unthinkable to him. And of course, likewise for my dad (in his case, it's understandable, born in the '30s as he was).

It seems that the generational difference for a lot of men in terms of this kind of thing can well be as small as 5 years. At some point though, something changes. It has to happen some time. No longer buying into the attitude of privilege-for-the-sake-thereof from women is one of them.

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what is it about young men that disallows them from simply being comfortable on public transport? Women wanted equality: now they have it. Whining about getting what you demanded is ridiculous. Tell you what though, young women are surely better at picking the difference between fat women and pregnant women... so how about it girls?

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"Or - if this isn't too radical a thought for you - simply because she's a woman?"

It is too radical for me so get stuffed. As for the elderly most kids i see giving up their seats are boys not girls.

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No no no, the reason he's not getting up is because he knows that if he brushes against her or maybe stands to close to a child he'll be thrown into prison and be on a list for the rest of his life.

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You're probably right there Stinger503 as I am certain that at least some young men after all the "dating violence prevention" classes they have endured in grade school would be programmed to fear accusations since even young boys aren't stupid enough to see that all those programs designed to help prevent dating violence among kids and teens aren't basically just telling the boys that you are criminals waiting to be called out by whatever girl says she feels uncomfortable by your mere existence.

I've been falsely accused and I know that I would turn the other way and pretend to have seen nothing if I noticed a woman dying in the street for fear that no good deed goes unpunished and that I may find my self accused of something as a result of saving her life.

As for moving for a woman on the transit, again, not a chance in hell. I do not care how uncomfortable or enfeebled she is. When a man can face charges because some other woman saw a man helping a woman on the transit and thought he was sexually assaulting the woman and that scared the observing woman, well, the risks of doing a kindness for a female are just to great. Fuck 'em if they can't get a seat and they don't like it let 'em walk. Till men have equal rights and freedoms to women, the courtesies towards women MUST cease. Sorry girls, you can't have your cake and eat it to anymore.

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A friend of mine, in his late 30s, is a well-mannered enough chap; sufficiently so, at any rate, that he recently did stand to offer a Tube seat to a girl who appeared exhausted, ill, or both.
Lucky her? Not a bit of it: 'why, do you think I need it?' came her churlish response.

His story reminded me of another, told by Richard Neville - the Oz editor and enfant terrible of the Seventies hippie set - as he encountered the early days of feminism: he opened a door for a woman, who denounced him as 'a chauvinist pig!' (we talked like that, honestly we did!) and stamped stoutly on his foot.
Was that, I wonder, when the rot set in?

Did we, my comrades in (unshaven) armpits, actually raise a generation of women who are, now, just as responsible as any man for the downfall of basic good manners?

We didn't need to be 'walked home', thank you very much, we had legs of our own and we'd manage - or, maybe, treat ourselves to a passing minicab.
We pitted our oestrogen against his testosterone, regardless of the brute strength required for the task in hand. We won. well, of course we did.

How many times is a man going to be snarled at for his efforts before he capitulates to the merits of not bothering to open a door or give up a seat?

So there we have it: women, by and large, got it wrong.

****The amazing thing is that, even after acknowledging they, feminazists got it wrong, we men are still to blame, definitely wanting to have all our cakes and eat them too:

Men, by and large, have cashed in on our mistake in favour of an easier, lazier, more loutish life for them.

Net gain? when I walk into a room, many men won't even stand in acknowledgement.

Net loss? I miss it so badly it hurts. What I see now, years after deriding it, is that when my father tipped his hat to the headmistress as she passed in the street, he wasn't patronising her - quite the reverse; he was paying tribute to the status that, rarely for those days, she had earned herself.
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Replying to paragon:

--->the risks of doing a kindness for a female are just to great.<----

Sad but true

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