UK: Drunk men who demand sex from partner should be 'treated as rapists'

Submitted by anthony on Wed, 2009-12-16 21:24

Article here. Excerpt:

'Drunken men who demand sex from their wives or girlfriends should be treated as rapists and no longer allowed to claim their judgment was blurred by alcohol, according to the head of the government's review of the rape laws.

Lady Stern, who is leading the review into how rape complaints are handled, has said there must be "no grey area" and that drink should be regarded as an aggravating factor when the case comes to court.

Stern told London's Evening Standard newspaper that a drunken woman was not "fair game" and called for a much tougher line to be taken with men who failed to restrain themselves when they are drunk.

"Being drunk is voluntary and people who become drunk are responsible for their actions. It is not the alcohol that commits the rape. It is not an excuse. It used to be regarded as such, but it is not an excuse . It is an aggravating factor."

Stern said that clear consent had to be obtained for sex regardless of how well couples know each other. A man could not assume a woman's consent.'

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... my old lady starts getting frisky and I don't say "yes" explicitly and we have sex, can I later claim she raped me?

I'll wait until this suggested change takes effect in the UK, then go on vacation there and act out this scenario. Or maybe I will just avoid the flight delays and drive to Colgate University where they already have this rule in place.

I'll let you guys know how it all works out. But actually, you already know, don't you?

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Submitted by Matt on Wed, 2009-12-16 21:47

...Vanilla extract? (which contains alcohol) If I bake a cake and then ask my girlfriend for sex, am I a rapist?

I suggest avoiding all cold/flu medications as well as penne alla vodka.

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Submitted by anthony on Wed, 2009-12-16 21:57

can't consent to sex if they're drunk.

But now I've learned.

"Being drunk is voluntary and people who become drunk are responsible for their actions."

Ah--that only applies to men. A drunk woman is not responsible for her actions. But then again, neither is a sober woman.

Methinks I shall have to master the art of cognitive dissonance to live in the modern fempire.

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Submitted by el cid on Thu, 2009-12-17 01:10

Stern said that clear consent had to be obtained for sex regardless of how well couples know each other. A man could not assume a woman's consent.'

Hetero sex is just that: sex! It is not a weird religious cult experience or a WW2 Nazi war crime like Polanski is suffering through in Switzerland.

Also, when will it be finally be recognized that false rape accusers are themselves rapists and should be treated as such?

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Submitted by Luek on Thu, 2009-12-17 15:49