UK: So, who do women think does all the work?

Article here. Excerpt:

'This report, based on interviews with 15,000 working women, casts intriguing new light on the relationship between men and women. It seems that the idea of the "useless man" slobbing around the home while his woman does all the work is nothing but a post-feminist myth. According to Rebecca Meisenbach, from Missouri University, it has been propagated by women who feel "an overwhelming sense of guilt" at having a career, rather than fulfilling their traditional gender role of wife and mother.

Naturally, there's a part of me that would like to congratulate Dr Meisenbach. After four decades of feminist drivel stigmatising men as inept, workshy, uncommunicative neanderthals whose only significant inventions are rape and war, it's about time someone spoke up in our defence.

Consider how men are now portrayed in films, books, adverts, and sitcoms from Men Behaving Badly to Friends: always it's the boys who are feckless, one-track-minded, chauvinistic and basic, while the girls are invariably the much put-upon omnicompetents who do all the real work and make everything right in the end.
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If you don't believe me, try breeding a daughter. From almost the moment she can speak, she will dedicate her tiny life to bossing Daddy around, telling him where he's going wrong and ordering him to do chores – often ganging up with Mummy in sisterly solidarity to mock and diminish Daddy's supposedly pathetic achievements.

This isn't learned behaviour; this is hardwired into the female system. A woman's work is never done – and boy, doesn't she just love to remind us of the fact. But when her mate performs similar wonders, his only reward is his own virtue. After all, it wasn't really the man who did those boring domestic tasks, was it? It was those wondrous, perpetually unappreciated Spanner Fairies.'

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I can't say I agree with the closing comments. I have met some unbearably petulent and bossy small kids of both sexes. The problem isn't so much with the kids as the parents. Parents should expect kids to be me-me-me. One way to avoid this is to make sure when kids act like this you punish them if they fail to obey direction to stop.

This system has been thwarted though by the idea that telling children to behave politely to parents and strangers alike is somehow abusive or confining. "Pas du tout" as the French say.

The process of raising kids is not about letting them run all over you and others. It's very much the opposite. Yet this has been the paternal role, that of disciplinarian. Many women believed that they could be both mom and dad to kids and so do both roles effectively, but for the most part, that is not the case. Kids are a lot of work and need at least two adults at home full time to take care of things. These adults must also be on the same page re making sure the kids don't act like little monsters. That is where the traditional system of domestic roles most crucially has fallen apart. Mothers use to support paternal disciplining of children. Now, they don't, not as a rule, anyway. The result is loads of really annoying kids becoming the same in pseudo-adult form.

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I completely agree with all of Matt's comments.

The one part of the article that I find a offensive is towards the end where in says that little girls are not taught, but are actually hard wired to "bossing daddy around".

I have seen this phenomenon, but it is LEARNED BEHAVIOR and the dad's put up with it, in fact I know one father that thinks 'it's cute' when his daughter acts like a diva.

How your kids act is up to the parents to teach, although I believe genetics also plays a part in personality traits, but parents need to teach other aspects such as how to be respectful.

Portraying men as lazy and dumb in sitcoms and in the media is harmful and the portrayal is untrue. This must be offensive to men and it is damaging to young boys.

I know women that facilitate the attitude that men don't do as much as women, but I also know women that are very aware and appreciative of the work men do.

Coincidently, most of the women that acknowledge men's work have traditional families and gender roles.

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No, it is hardwired. As Moxon has shown, women's complaining and criticizing is hard-wired. The reason it evolved is because in primitive times, it was what women had to do to hang on to a mate, to keep the male from straying to other female members of the tribe. The problem is that in modern society, this behavior has become dysfunctional in the 'blink of an eye' - evolution hasn't 'caught up' yet.

You can be offended or disagree all you want, but that's what the science says :)

-ax

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When I perform similar "wonders" which is all the time because I do most the house work inside and out I am told to stop been a martyr. One cannot win.
Three years to go until kid turns eighteen and I am gone.

Badger

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Why would any parent teach a different set of morals to either a boy or girl? Are we not supposed to be equal under the law? If little Johnny gets punished for acting out, shouldn't little Julie as well? Part of our problems is that men have not been allowed to be that active in the rearing of our own children. Mommy dearest has been raising our children for the most part. Now that it takes two parents to work out of the home to acquire those things that we have been told we have to have to be successful, other people are raising our children. I have met many women that had an active father while they were being raised, those that did, and had a decent relationship with father were for the most part decent women. The only problem with this is that the entire system would have to change in order for us poor working class people to have the time to actually raise our own children. Until that day comes the system will continue to pit men and women against each other, as it has worked so well in the past. In order to kill the snake, you must cut off its' head.

David A. DeLong

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If what you're saying is so, then how would being a nagging critic help to keep a man "from straying"? Would it put other women off to him so he couldn't "get away with straying"?

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Things in the distant past were not the same as they are today. Back then, it was crucial for the family to remain a unit, it is not like now where people can 'go there own way' and still survive. It would be improper to impose current attitudes, i.e., "I'm leaving that bitch cause she's a pain in the ass!", to past times. The bottom line is that such behavior by women kept the man under the control of the wife, so that he was focused on taking care of things in his own family and did not look afield.

If you think about it that makes sense even from our own perspective, because these days, the actual reason a man would leave a woman who nags is that she is too controlling.

It's explained a lot better in Moxon's book - check it out. As Michael Levin said, "[The book] will utterly persuade the objective reader."

Publisher's website for the book including Farrell's strong endorsement. Type "woman racket" without the quotes in the search box.
-ax

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