Japan panics about the rise of "grass-eating men"

Article here. Few other articles I have read point out the no-win situation men in modern societies face when it comes to place in society/gender roles. Men who do what they have been told to do since childhood about being less aggressive or ambitious, less motivated by sex-seeking in relationships, doing things that are less stressful than the traditional male roles require, etc., suddenly get criticized and minimized for it. However if they go back to being the way they were before in these areas, they will also get criticized and minimized. There's no winning for losing.

I can't blame these guys in Japan for taking a vastly different path than their fathers and grandfathers took. The result of doing so means a longer, healthier life and no worries about wives getting a divorce inside a day and taking off with the kids, a process that is, believe it or not, much easier for women to engage in in Japan than in the US, Canada, or Britain. Excerpt:

'Today, Igarashi has a new identity (and plenty of company among young Japanese men) as one of the soushoku danshi—literally translated, "grass-eating boys." Named for their lack of interest in sex and their preference for quieter, less competitive lives, Japan's "herbivores" are provoking a national debate about how the country's economic stagnation since the early 1990s has altered men's behavior.

Newspapers, magazines, and television shows are newly fixated on the herbivores. "Have men gotten weaker?" was one theme of a recent TV talk show. "Herbivores Aren't So Bad" is the title of a regular column on the Japanese Web site NB Online.
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Grass-eating boys' commitment phobia is not the only thing that's worrying Japanese women. Unlike earlier generations of Japanese men, they prefer not to make the first move, they like to split the bill, and they're not particularly motivated by sex. "I spent the night at one guy's house, and nothing happened—we just went to sleep!" moaned one incredulous woman on a TV program devoted to herbivores. "It's like something's missing with them," said Yoko Yatsu, a 34-year-old housewife, in an interview. "If they were more normal, they'd be more interested in women. They'd at least want to talk to women."
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Yoto Hosho, a 22-year-old college dropout who considers himself and most of his friends herbivores, believes the term describes a diverse group of men who have no desire to live up to traditional social expectations in their relationships with women, their jobs, or anything else. "We don't care at all what people think about how we live," he says.'

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manonthestreet

I don't understand very much about this. But it interest me. I am so desperate to find a new way forwards for myself. I have tried but not succeeded and at my age I despair of ever finding a way out. Perhaps for me there is no such thing as a way out. But that others should almost renounce modern life and trying living as a earlier time excites my imagination. Have any of you read Rich Zubaty's book? Those who have might like to recall what he has to say about the 'Deer God'. Will we ever get back to the 'Deer God'? May be death is the only freedom. I fear for me that may be the case.

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The book I believe trotter is referring to is What Men Know That Women Don't. It was the first men's issues book I ever read. Closely following was 'If Men Have All the Power How Come Women Make All the Rules?' (.pdf file) and then The Manipulated Man by Esther Vilar. These books give one a lot of fodder for thought. You may not agree with everything the authors write but when was the last time you agreed entirely with everything found in 200 pages of text?

And I say this not just to trotter but anyone reading: when you feel down about anything, including the state of affairs for men today, or for families, or anything else, remember you have options. If you feel you need help or support, ask for it, and get it. It's better than the alternatives, which largely include feeling miserable. Better to be happy.

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"when you feel down about anything, including the state of affairs for men today, or for families, or anything else, remember you have options. If you feel you need help or support, ask for it, and get it. It's better than the alternatives, which largely include feeling miserable. Better to be happy."

That's damn good advice mcc.

My favorite book is still The Myth of Male Power. I can open that at any page and just read, and I love what I'm reading no matter what part it is. It's like a bible of some sort. Warren Farrell is my biggest hero.

The Manipulated Man was powerful. But actually it was so hard on women that I had trouble reading it without feeling angry. Whereas The Myth of Male Power doesn't make me angry but motivates me to be an activist for the MR movement.

I'm certainly not criticizing Esther V., I really appreciated what she has done and I think her book can be very liberating to alot of men.

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Great to see young Japanese men throwing off their yokes and telling society to get some other group to be it's beasts of burden - here's hoping the trend goes worldwide.

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