"Welcome to the age of female rage"

Piss and moan
Piss and moan
Pretty soon...
You'll live alone.

Which is what you should have done in the first place, you whiny skank.

You'd have saved your whole family (certainly, including your husband) a lot of big headaches.

Sometimes women's whining becomes so nonsensical, even other women see the absurdity of it. Ultimately, this represents one more shot in the feminist foot.

-ax

Haha! Now she understands how men have felt since the beginning of time.

Father
Provider
Protector
Handyman
etc. etc. etc.

Along with getting a call in the middle of the night for emergency at work. Getting up in the middle of the night to bring pregnant wife to hospital. Getting up in the middle of the night because teen son/daughter got into trouble. And then, still going to work in the morning and getting home after all that to hear the wife bitch and moan and kids screaming.

Women, you wanted to be in the men's world and be just like us...well, there you have it! Enjoy!

One thing that always makes me laugh about these articles where women complain about their husband or boyfriend not helping out enough, is the fact that the authors chose to go out with or marry them. There are tons of great guys out there who are constantly rejected (i.e. me), who would help out a lot around the house if they had a family, but since they don't make tons of money, and look perfect, they get rejected. When a women ends up unhappy because she's shallow, that seems like poetic justice to me.

Evan AKA X-TRNL
Real Men Don't Take Abuse!

What nobody says but I bet I am right is that they don't share one current account,he has to pay half the bills from his lesser salary while she makes all the decisions,ie;he gets poorer while she gets richer,never happened when the
old man went to work and wifey stayed at home
I notice that it is always the wives that write these
disparagements about their husbands,to be fair why doesn't he get the right of reply so that we can learn all her bad habits as well."Yes,I do dearly love my wife but I wish she would stop wiping her ass on £50 notes when she is drunk,I
find it difficult to pay for the magnums of champagne we have over the weekend,must be the credit crunch"

Is her real attitude toward children, which is they can be shuttled off at all times. Nanny? Kid in a boarding school? Very handy if you don't want to deal with them. Day care? A necessity at times, but it is the same thing. Her husband spent the evening at home taking care of the kid after a full days work - preparing everything that the kid needed. I'm sure he gets sacked with every non fun thing like trimming the bushes, cutting down the trees, maintaining the firewood pile for the fireplace cleaning the fireplace, mending the fences, installing the ceiling fans, fixing the electrical outlets, fixing the plumbing/sinks/drains, unclogging the toilet (always a pleasant task!), putting together furniture, assembling the kids bikes & toys, oil changes, transmission changes, serious engine work, rotating the tires, shoveling the driveway... He works too, and I'll be more than willing to bet when it comes to splitting the finances that this task isn't done down the middle. He is, in all probability, paying his share from the lesser salary and she is using most of the disposable income for whatever she wants.

I fully understand her feeling pressed. My fiance is a wonderful woman - but incredibly busy herself. She is a full time graduate student, two boys 8 & 4, the latter is very difficult to handle, aging parents who need care, she volunteers at her church, and she works as a home health aid.

I can think of any number of 60-70 things I've fixed off of the top of my head. I can think of tons of projects that are on hold that *she* would like to do (translation: I will end up doing the lions share of actual labor involved) as she hasn't quite faced the reality that *she* isn't going to do them, and I'm smart enough to wait for her to ask these days & hope she attempts it on her own every so often. (How else will she learn the value of doing some of those things?)

I'm busy myself... I have chemotherapy several times a week to stay alive, also a full time pharmacy student - and medical school is not the easiest place in the world to be even without enduring chemo during, a child of my own, aging parents that need care..etc..etc I don't mind watching the kids, making dinner, I still prefer to do my own laundry (though I will let her do mine on occasion if she insists), I do the dishes, and I mend an awful lot of things. When she gets sick, I know how much she contributes because I take that over when she does, including caring for her, just as she does for me. I have far more down days than she does, just as result of physical health, and I know some of those burdens shift to her during.

I do have to confess though, and this is going to sound cruel to some: One day I come in (I had been gone for a few days) and she is crying; she is crying because it snowed, and she had to shovel the snow. She simply wasn't physically up to doing all of it. She had never thought about all of those kinds of tasks, because they had been done before by someone else. She was simply overwhelmed with everything she had to do, and those rather non-fun, boring, and physically demanding chores were something that just magically got done... I smiled, but I did my best to hide it from her. It snowed a good 2 feet, and it took me hours to clean up the mess, but she realized in that moment that things like spending 20 hours cleaning out the gutters, or the time I spend having to learn to fix XYZ, chopping wood, cleaning creosote from the grill & chimney, tending to the kids, they do add up when I'm not there to do them. Just as wiping the younger child's butt adds up in time, and I've done that too. That was the moment where she started to appreciate the things that I do, and I understood her own limits a lot better & appreciated what she did a lot more.

What I would suggest for the lady in the article is: Face up to your own true values, where you put your time & your money is where your heart truly is. If you find these are not the things you value the most, its time to rebalance your priorities, but own up to your kid being off in boarding school & the nanny is for you to allow you the freedom to do what you want to do, that pursuing the career over family was something you wanted to do and it was a choice you made, and have some appreciation of the 1000 tasks your husband does that you don't want to do, but he does willingly, and probably without thanks. Appreciate that he probably took on a great many things to allow you to be out of town for days on end, and to work late on the nights you do.

Maybe she would like to go back to the other way & have the freedom to just be a mom at home. I know plenty of women that if you got to what they *truly* desire, that is it. But is the house they are living in which is so expensive that it takes two incomes to afford a choice that was about her? More than likely. You choose to live at the edge of your means when you buy - and think yes your income will grow - you just committed yourself and often your S/O to being on that track. Maybe they made that choice together, but many of us acknowledge that other truth - those big decisions have always been made mostly to please her interests, the only difference here is that she is out working to pay for a part of it too. She resents having to do that much, its in her words, but did he really press for those things or did you? Remnants of a previous marriage?

"Sacred salt" ..
you have been debunked. Deee-bunked.

-ax
patroler of the archives, it is my solemn duty to preserve the integrity of this board.