Women tougher on friends than men: Study

Article here. Excerpt:

'Contrary to the nurturing images of sisterhood put forth by chick flicks, female friendships can be a ticking time bomb of fickleness and judgment, according to results of a study in the journal Psychological Science.

Traditional views hold that women are more socially co-operative than men, but researchers from the Universite du Quebec at Montreal, Harvard University and Emmanuel College in Boston found female same-sex friendships are significantly less tolerant, more volatile, and likelier to degrade based on a single negative incident than male same-sex friendships.'

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Duh!
So, this required "researchers" to discover?! Heh.
Apparently, nobody has the "guts" to admit this observation publicly or within earshot of other women in this politically-correct climate. So, it takes "official research" to give it some weight and validation.

Most of us who have ever been around women for any length of time in the workplace, public areas, or at home, can attest to the fickle nature of such relationships. Walking on eggshells? Yep.

regards,
MAJ

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LOL, no shit.

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The closer the friendship, the more fragile. One is less likely to forgive the betrayal of a brother than that of an acquaintance. What I'd like to see is a serious study of what in the raising of boys makes such a close friendship unlikely. (One day I'll write on this, I promise.)

I saved my best friend's life at the age of 4, at considerable risk to my own. We were blood brothers till his death more than half a century later. I believe we would've been without this incident. Such ties were once common among men, with or without shared trauma.

What has so radically changed?

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Prolly insecurity because of being blamed and shamed in all aspects of life as far as, if your senstive or close to another male your gay, if your macho your a chauvanist. Girls can wear men's clothes, do any job or whatever they would like and it's girl power. Guys try to express themselves and they are either emasculated, belittled in some other form, and feel they are not very valuable to society and other guys. Just my opinion to possibilities.

Also might be related to the fact that guys are over 6times more likely to commit suicide from mid teens to mid twenties.

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Constantly being told your gender is stupid, helpless, incapable, and that sexual violence against your gender is funny certainly doesn't help someone with their self-worth. It also doesn't help one see the worth in others. As a guy, you're practically told what to like. This also plays a role in the unlikelihood of close bonds between males.

Evan AKA X-TRNL
Real Men Don't Take Abuse!

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I believe this is true. Women are more cruel to each other than most men would ever dream of being.

Recent research also finds that many younger female professionals have had very bad experiences with older female supervisors and mentors. And, if given a choice, wouldn't work for a woman again. I'm one of these women. My worst male manager wasn't nearly as bad as my "best" female boss. I will never take a job in which I have to report to a woman ever again.

This is one of the reasons I left the field of direct mental health services. It's overwhelmingly female. I refer to it as the Estrogen Ghetto. My last clinical position was at a not-for-profit clinic with a staff of 12 women and the token gay male therapist. They were the nastiest group of backstabbing, troubled women I've ever encountered---twelve social workers between the ages of 24 and 63.

They resented my more advanced degree and embarked on a 3-year campaign to make my life hell. This included rifling through my waste bin (looking for what I don't know), printing my personal email while I was out of my office and passing it amongst themselves, and criticizing me for NOT being behind in my clinical notes (it made my co-workers feel bad because they were behind in their case notes, couldn't keep up and were upset because I didn't have trouble getting my work done). The last year I was at the clinic, they made me so paranoid that I locked my office door just to go down the hall when I had to use the bathroom.

These women masked themselves as empathic, nurturing caregivers. Underneath the facade they were petty, jealous, spiteful, insecure, and self-important. I left there in 2005 and have no desire to work in the mental health field with these women and their ilk ever again.

Dr T
A Shrink for Men

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Wow, thanks for the reply Dr. T, too bad your not male, .. then you'd be Mr. T and I would laugh. Anyway, I have learned through working with women that in small groups that are content with their homelife that women are wonderful to work with. I know they expect attention with at least faked intrest in what they are saying and I give it to them out of courtesy and friendship. I prefer working with these women than men at times because I am free to discuss how I feel without feeling weird, but sometimes I prefer to work with men because of certain common interests. Overall I believe a split of gender really is healthier for sort of a check and balance approach. One of the philosophies that these women discussed with me is that "remember you are with your coworkers more of your waking day than you are with your family at times (shift work), so being genuinely nice is the best policy".

Also, it has always amused me how it seems as if formal education is directly related to self worth and status in some people as if a Bachelors is a silver stamp, Masters is a gold and PHD is platinum. (I mean that as far as Dr. T's coworkers were jealous and grouped her in the "out group" most likely because her degree was of a higher caliber, I'm not trying to suggest Dr. T thinks she is a better person) I guess it correlates to earning potential and is directly related to one of the flaws of humans, the grasping for more, in this capitalist nation it's money.

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Hi Michael,

You're welcome. Thanks for replying to my comment. There a plenty of men and women who are a pleasure to work. Alternately, there are a lot of people who bring their unresolved childhood/family of origin issues and present day relationship dissatisfaction into the office. It's been my experience that this is more often the case with women co-workers. However, I worked in the field of psychology for a decade, which is predominantly female, so go figure.

I wish my former colleagues' nasty behavior had been due to a higher pay scale! I was actually supervised by an MSW (Masters of Social Work) who had 1/8 of my education and was making a higher salary. I didn't tell my colleagues when I passed my dissertation oral defense because I was worried about fallout. When they finally did find out 6 months later, they became particularly vicious.

Healthier work environments have a balance of men and women, but no workplace is free of politics. Just the same, I'll never work for a woman again, as god is my witness!

Kind Regards,
Dr T
A Shrink for Men
http://shrink4men.wordpress.com

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