Guyland: stuck in the world of male spinsters

Read the comments associated with this article. What do you think, guys?

From my POV, the very fact such an article is published is telling. It strikes me as a sales job. No one ever needs to go selling necessities, do they? When was the last time someone had to work at selling you a loaf of bread?

Actually, EVERY company that makes bread will have some form of marketing department to try and sell you THEIR bread rather than any other bread. And bread is not a necessity anyway, you can definitely live life without bread. Marriage isn't a necessity either, and he never says it is.

He's selling what he believes in, and what he thinks is best.

I'm glad this piece was put up. I've been reading far too many comments from men who'll "never marry again" because "all women are selfish and manipulative".

The problem is not "women" the problem is society, and inequality.

Saying ALL women are selfish and manipulative is the same as extreme feminists claiming all men are violent, selfish pigs. It's not progress.

> According to the American sociologist Michael Kimmel

I haven't read further than this phrase. Cannot care less about ravings of a feminist who scared to death that no one will marry his daughter.

Read the article on the link in my signature to learn the truth about this matter.

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Single men is the only social group benefited from feminism. Article here.

He actually is trying to convince guys to get married for health benefits? I've heard before that marriage is suppose to make a guy's life longer, but that's only if it doesn't come to a crashing halt and turn his life upside-down. It simply isn't worth the risk. I agree with him, don't do it for her, save your own ass. Don't get married, because it gives SOME greedy women (han090 has a point about generalizing) and crooked lawyers the means to sink their claws into everything you own. It ain't worth it. Straight up.

Evan AKA X-TRNL
Real Men Don't Take Abuse!

This is just more rubbish on the same old issue. Next week there will be posted on ma.org an article about how "Single guys are more healthy" or something.
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Married men don't live longer. It just seems longer.

manonthestreet

I think some of you should read 'THE BASTARD's BIBLE'. It is free on the Internet. Just Google cry of the bastard and it should come up and you can download the chapters for fee. It rather argues that marriage is fundamentally flawed and not just a matter of bad luck. GOOD READING GENTLEMEN.

I think the reason they used that picture is because in "about a boy" (which i'm pretty sure that shot is from) he played someone who was (to a certain extent) living in guy land. He certainly had the serial womanising for sex reasons, simple and stress free life going on. But despite this, he realises he's not truely happy.

Only problem his characters part was actually about isolation Vs companionship, rather than singledom vs relationships, so the picture choice was rather poor.

Evan, i agree that getting married is still a risk, but if you're a good enough judge of character, and aren't blinded by the societal pressure to "settle down and get on with your life" then marriage isn't that much of a risk. Especially not if you take the precaution of a prenuptial agreement.

If they're not horrible manipulators, then signing a reasonable one shouldn't be an issue.

Incidentally, i think a lot of people here would like the "perfect woman" article linked from this one. Here's a quote

"Also, I want a woman who is prepared to admit that what she wants from a man is a big c*** and a lot of money. I am fed up with women always claiming that what they find most sexy is a sense of humour. Because it isn’t true. I know this because I am hilarious. Way more funny than most of the slack-arsed, car-obsessed, office wonk baldies you’ll meet in a wine bar on a Friday night, and yet I practically never get laid.."

I've always found this stat about married men living longer suspicious... at least the way it's interpretted. It's just a huge stretch to assume that women change men's behaviour to risk that much. Women are typically the ones asking men to take on risky tasks for them.

However; what does make sense to me, is KIDS; for two reasons. 1) I can see fathers being more cautious when they have kids because they know their kids rely on them. 2) Frequent exposure to KIDS keep adult immune systems up to date. Women typically get more exposure to kids, and already have stronger immune systems than men.

Since most people that are married have kids; this seems to be more believable to me.

Research also states that people that have been fixed, either male or female live longer as well. Let's not forget the fact that living a near starvation diet also increases the life span. Taking into consideration the individual personalities of the people that made up the research, sub classing them, and cross referencing the data could clean this research up a little bit. What about the majority of married men that live with a constant buzz in their head while married? The ones that become either workaholics or alcoholics, or both? The poor men that aren't comfortable within the walls of their own homes? Not only should longevity be compared, but the quality of life as well. Mental well being, stress, etc. Being trapped by your material posessions in a bad relationship is somewhat a mismanagement of personal priorities. As others have eluded to there are many that profit by the propaganda to get married. Groups are pressured to marry and have children. People get married for the wrong reasons. We have been brainwashed into performing so as to keep all of the mini empires alive. I am not anti marriage. I am anti current societal system.

David A. DeLong

Regarding people being fixed... oddly enough this could also be an indicator of exposure to children, since people getting fixed are typically those that already have children; and are actively involved in raising them (and have reached their limits).

Just a thought.

I think the best way to avoid ending up on the receiving end of a nasty divorce is to be with the woman for at least 4 years before marrying, and make sure there's a prenuptial agreement. When I get to that point, I'll just explain to her all the horror stories I've heard and how I'm not willing to risk my life being torn apart by the legal system for the means of upholding an archaic, outdated, and don't forget, somewhat anti-male institution. Then again, I just might not marry. Weddings are damn expensive anyway.

Evan AKA X-TRNL
Real Men Don't Take Abuse!

I've always found this stat about married men living longer suspicious... at least the way it's interpretted. It's just a huge stretch to assume that women change men's behaviour to risk that much. Women are typically the ones asking men to take on risky tasks for them.

I don't find it suspicious at all.

When I have been single I have always avoided going to the doctor when sick, not getting checkups, etc., etc. But when I was married, and now in my current relationship (dating 4 years as of today), when I am sick I am "reminded" that I need to go to the doctor, or that I need to go get my yearly physical. Luckily, my current GF is nothing like my ex-wife and doesn't nag me about it, she knows that if she nags, I resist. So she simply suggests it once and knows I will take it from there.

I do agree about kids, though. Along with making us more cautious they make us laugh too, which helps relieve stress and gives a boost the immune system.

Like the long-term stress it must have caused? There's more to being healthy than getting yearly checkups.
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They revive the word "spinster", formerly done away with due to being seen as derogatory toward women - so as to be derogatory toward men.
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