Trendwatch: "French women 'are the sexual predators now'"

"French women's first experience of sex is now almost as early as that of the opposite sex: in 1950 there was a two-year difference, but the gap has narrowed to four months, to around 17 and a half."

So, is this saying what I think it says? Back in the Good old days of patriarchs and nuclear families (you know all the things second wave feminists of the 60's worked so very hard to destroy), girls were having sex later then boys? So who was having sex with all the young boys if not young girls? Coo Coo Catchoo Mrs. Robinson

It would seem that young men were being preyed upon by older women long before it became all the rage for the news to cover female teachers "affairs" with students

"Despite the changes in female behaviour observed in the study, some things have not altered in 40 years. Men found it easier than women to disassociate sex from love, but the research suggested this was due to nurture rather than nature. The study said: "Young women are still educated to consider their entrance into sexuality as a sentimental-relationship experience."

This is not a fair comparison really, as males have a VERY different understanding of the concept of love then females. Young women are in "love" with twelve boys a week. Men tend to associate love with commitment, women don't. Men have one or two loves over the course of their lifetime, women have who they love today.

Using the female understanding of what love is, female promiscuity and male promiscuity are not at all different. It's just that men do not tend to use the word 'love' in relation to their fuck buddies (they tend to call them something like fuck buddies), where as women use the word love which in in female speak has the equivalent meaning. Just 'cause she says I love you today, don't have anything at all to do with what she's gonna say about you tomorrow.

"One of the more surprising findings was that one-in-five French men aged between 18 and 24 "manifests no interest in sexuality", while abstinence rates for men under 35 was twice as high as for women."

How is this surprising? There have never been as many abstinent females as males at any point throughout history. Women have always got their fuck on more then men. This is nothing new or shocking in any way at all. Just humanity as it's always been.

"The two sociologists who compiled the research said that the French had fewer sexual taboos and inhibitions than before, but were more anxious about lovemaking."

By North American standards the French have always been Kinky wierdos, it must be getting really interesting over there if they are starting to notice their own lack if inhibitions.

"Never have sex councillors been so busy in France: according to one estimate, they treat half a million patients per year."

That's just cause women have been wrong about men since the dawn of time and they thought that turning themselves into sluts would make them more appealing to men. Now they are finding out that men want them even less now so they need some whacko to tell them that they are great and that their boyfriends all need viagra.

But what is significant from the men's issues perspective here is the drop-off in interest in sex among men in France. I doubt it's much different in other western worlds. The study doesn't go into what may be the cause of it (ie, is it environmental, connected with the "feminizing chemicals" in our environment, or is it sociological for some reason?), but arguably that is outside the scope of the study.

Men are getting off the hook. And that's great. This trend only will be strengthening.

As for causes... There is a whole complex of causes here. And one of them is that there are a great deal of more entertaining occupations today than spending time and money for getting sex from some stupid psychopathic female (with the risk of getting into all sorts of troubles after that sex).

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Single men is the only social group benefited from feminism.

This is not a fair comparison really, as males have a VERY different understanding of the concept of love then females. Young women are in "love" with twelve boys a week. Men tend to associate love with commitment, women don't. Men have one or two loves over the course of their lifetime, women have who they love today.

Using the female understanding of what love is, female promiscuity and male promiscuity are not at all different. It's just that men do not tend to use the word 'love' in relation to their fuck buddies (they tend to call them something like fuck buddies), where as women use the word love which in in female speak has the equivalent meaning. Just 'cause she says I love you today, don't have anything at all to do with what she's gonna say about you tomorrow.

Paragon hit the nail right on the head with this one. The statement quoted above is 100% correct.

I would say that men are MUCH more honest than women. This position is supported by facts being that there are now several studies floating around revealing that the majority of women are habitual liars.

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I lost the link to a recent article about women lying. I think it was on msnbc.com.

It was a review of a new book by a female author titled "Little White Lies, Deep Dark Secrets."

Apparently women lie more frequently than men, and about pretty much everything -- sex, marriage, work, parenting, finances, etc.

But I'm not convinced that this is a very deep analysis.

Mainly because modern marriage and modern coupledom depends upon lies just to be even possible.

We're all little liars. All the time.

"Honey, do you like this dress?"

"Oh, you look GREAT!"

What a comedy!

I don't see how this situation is bad thing or even an MRA issue/problem.

Does a double standard exist in regards to acceptable male sexual behaviour? Ofcoarse it does. Its something we fight with justification.

I have no idea why French men have lost some of their sex drive. I don't blame women.

In this case I don't perceive this as victimizing men. I'll always defend sexual behavior unless it involves deviance. I certainly don't see French women as "sexual predators".

If French women are horny, so be it!

Infact, A vacation in Paris might not be such a bad idea. If the Frenchmen can't keep up with them they should try Viagra. I'm more than than willing to help these horny French maids satisfy their sexual needs.

Male/female sexuality might be the last frontier of gender cohesiveness.

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"Oh the gal I'm to marry
Is a bow-legged sow
I've been soaking' up drink like a sponge."

[Rolling Stones]

that the stigmatization of male sexuality is completely unjust and uncalled for. Women are just as sexual, if not more, than men (especially since the "sexual revolution"). It really bugs me how men are sometimes viewed as evil just because we have desires, while women are just doing "what's natural". This article also shatters the old myth that only men are interested in being promiscous and polygamous. Women are just as bad, if not worse!

Evan AKA X-TRNL
Real Men Don't Take Abuse!

Women love THINGS. Listen to them speak..."oh I just LOVE this new couch" and "I just LOVE the way these curtains look in my living room".

Men rarely, if ever use 'love' in that sort of way.
Fisherman says "nice fish" to his buddy. But his buddy never says "oh I just LOVE the way you bait that hook".

Listen to women. Love is something they pass around very easily. It is part of their language, thus trivializing what actual emotional love really is. It is cheap to a woman, or she wouldnt use it as much in her speach.

Just listen and you will hear it.

oregon dad

That's why I think it's total bullshit for that study to conclude that women, despite being more promiscuous then men, are in fact still "in love with" all the many men women and farm animals they get their fuck on with because they use the word love in describing them where as men do not.

Men tend to stick more closely with the dictionary definition of the word where as women tend to use the word love wot describe ANYTHING that makes them feel happy. To women, love essentially is synonymous with the word happy.

It's just totally unfair to jump to a conclusion about a deep emotional connection based merely on the use of the word love.

I have come to the conclusion that women are sexual predators for other reasons. These reasons preclude the study. They are sexual predators because they CHOOSE who they will have sex with. They CHOOSE wether or not to deceive their partner with regard to birth control. They CHOOSE to be honest or dishonest.

If they CHOOSE to be dishonest, society blames the man for "trusting" her, and penalizes the man and rewards the woman.

This is a perfect case of predation. She lays the trap, she reaps the rewards of loving offspring, child support, and a host of other benefits that an intact, married couple are not entitled to. She has willingly benefited herself at the expense of another. This is predation.

Women are definitely sexual/financial/social/genetic predators. They are the gate keepers and they play the game of Darwinian "selection" very cleverly.

From a biological point of view, there must be, and there is, an optimal strategy. That strategy is dictated by energy expenditures or lack thereof. A single mom, through her own devices, has the ability to exploit the systems that have been put in place - and this saves her energy. For the male, he loses a tremendous amount of energy which is directly collected by the female.

Very much like the female spider that eats her mate - who is then used for protein and energy so she can produce her eggs.
Women have always been predators - but in clandistine and clever ways.

oregon dad

OregonDad,

Have you ever read "The Predatory Female" by Lawrence Shannon?

Here are a few quotes from the book. They are very revealing:

"'While a male gravitates towards things and activities, a predatory female is primarily concerned with herself. Publications designed for men bear titles like Sports, Flying, Electronics, Mechanics, etc., while those sold mainly to females are called Self, Glamour, Image, Me, Woman, and so forth.'

'TV soap operas are particularly attractive to predatory females. Their lifestyles reflect an almost unconscious imitation of soap opera scenarios. A predatory female enjoys cultivating scandalous events and involving herself in everyone's problems.'

'The Flash is a momentary facial expression of the predatory female. It is a surfacing of the predatory fury that is immediately subdued when the creature is acquisitive. Alert observers of the predatory female will occasionally witness one. The flash occurs with little warning and it's a sobering sneak preview, a glimpse into the abyss.'

'In the advanced stages of sexual hypnosis, the male may subconsciously want to crawl into the vagina and live there. Most normal, healthy men are capable of becoming total slaves to a well orchestrated sexual enticement and the predatory female is acutely aware of this.'

'A man living with a woman is in a most precarious position. She may wait on him until he is unaccustomed to taking care of himself. She may feed him until he becomes fat and clumsy. He loses the eye of the tiger, gradually becoming another servile gelding of the matriarchal society.'

'Under NO circumstances would a predatory female put herself in the legally and financially subservient position that a man assumes when he marries."

'Many divorced men are sending monthly alimony checks to women bearing little resemblance, physically or mentally, to the ones they married.'

'The Wedding is the triumphant victory march of the predatory female and the public neutering of the groom.'

'Most states claim a public policy of preserving marriages and families on one hand, while on the other, through the matriarchal system, make it financially attractive for predatory females to dump their husbands. This is like handing a flame thrower to a pyromaniac.'

This is what Cooltools4men had to say concerning the book:

"Please do not under-estimate the predatory female. This is a mistake that drives men to their ruin. Her heart is cold, her gaze vulturine, her passions vampyric and her intensity scorpionic.

The comparison with other predators from the animal kingdom is most apt. The strategies employed by the predatory female are remarkably similar to those used by other predatory beasts. One classic example of this is the 'isolate and conquer' strategy. The predatory female is essentially a herd creature, this is not to say that she hunts in packs, but that she consorts constantly with her 'herd' - her mother and girlfriends - therefore when you enter into the life of a predatory female you must understand that you are also dealing with this unseen herd, who will undoubtedly exert a formidable influence on her thinking and actions. As Shannon writes in the book: "They like to gossip and scheme out of earshot. Predatory females rely heavily on the consensus of the pack and thereby encounter difficulty in making individual decisions."

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