Georgia School District Goes Single-Sex
Submitted by Anonymous on Tue, 2008-02-26 06:11
Story here.
Some people are upset, but the data shows that this will improve performance of both boys and girls. Let's see what happens! Excerpt:
'GREENSBORO, Ga. - Nearly four decades after this rural Georgia county stopped segregating its schools by race, it wants to divide students again — this time by sex.
Greene County is set to become the first school district in the nation to go entirely single-sex, with boys and girls in separate classrooms — a move born of desperation over years of poor test scores, soaring dropout rates and high numbers of teenage pregnancies.'
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Ugh
I feel like single-sex ed is a no-win situation because herding kids together into large crowds and trying to teach them stuff at a time when their bodies and minds want to do their own exploring is swimming upstream against a waterfall. Nonetheless, it seems we are committed to making the journey. So that being the case, the matter at hand is: segregate by sex or not?
I am against it. It is far too easy to get people used to that lifestyle and then what, kick them into the "real world" where now men and women are supposed to work together as co-equals, be P.C., speak only in certain ways, be mature? Ugh. How the heck does that happen? Can I learn to drive without getting behind the wheel of a car? Can I learn how to interact with people of the "other sex" without actually doing so? And when they do interact, what happens? I went to a boys' high school for a year for my sophomore year. It was quite the contrast to public school not in terms of quality of education (about the same, really), but the attitude toward girls the boys showed. The boys acted all schoolboyish (as in 6th grade, not 11th grade) about girls, they were spoken of in hushed tones, like discussing something they shouldn't (admittedly, this was a sectarian school). It was ridiculous. And when boys did talk about their contact with girls, it was all about "What did you do with her? Did you xyz..."
Back in my ordinary mixed-sex school, it was not like that. Of course boys and girls talked about those kinds of things but it was not shameful and it was not an utter preoccupation. They were not mysteries to each other and the immediate topic vis-a-vis the other sex was not sex (OK maybe it was a close 2nd, but stuff like sports, band, clubs, etc. was first). Better overall. As for discipline, we had as many fights among boys at the single-sex school I went to as were at the public school, about one per day. So what the heck here?
I know I am discussing anecdotal evidence and I am sure others will have had different experiences, of course. I am just saying that it seems utterly contrary to the goal of creating a society wherein people are not assuming false things of one another, etc., because of their sex. Keeping the sexes a mystery to one another as they are growing up is doing them a disservice and screwing up the future.
Alas, I am not sure if we have a comprehensive, pat answer to the types of problems "this modern world" creates. I just don't think segregation, by sex, ethnicity, religion, etc., is the answer.
Daughter owner is
Daughter owner is speaking:
"I am outraged," said Tammi Freeman, who has two children at the high school. "I am disgusted. It's making our county look like our kids are trouble when they're not."
Yes, daughter owners, you have made your kids trouble. So, now live with it and pay for it.
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Single men is the only social group benefited from feminism.
Evolve or Just Be Redundant
nbdspcl,
The whole "daughter owner" schtick is so tired and irrelevant to any MRA issue.
Could you please consider retiring it?
You are worthy of other more intelligent themes.
If, for example, you want to continue to explore gender wars ...
maybe you could actually examine what it means to be a parent of a daughter or a son, or both?
It is simply foolish to pursue this rant that in essence condemns men who have made sperm deposits resulting in female babies.
Evolve your argument, please.....
Interesting
The article could have been a little less subtle about being against it:
Nearly four decades after this rural Georgia county stopped segregating its schools by race, it wants to divide students again — this time by sex.
I'm interested to see how it pans out. I've read studies that boys and girls do perform better in a single-sex environment. I wasn't pleased with the Superintendent's comment, however:
...Also, boys won't misbehave as much because they will no longer be trying to impress the girls, and the girls will be more likely to speak up in class because they won't be afraid to look smart in front of the boys, he said.
Yep, it's always the boys that are the problem.
This kind of system would probably encourage more males to become teachers if they only have to teach boys (no threat of false-rape accusations, etc). Boys would benefit from more positive male role models as well.
This situation is ideal as a test case since it's the same school and environment. I hope we follow back on this story in a few months (hopefully we'll get some data before idiots like the writer of this article get their way).
One of the key MRA issues
Daughter owners is one of the main sources of misandry in society and of course I'm not going to "retire" from this theme. Much less so due to being asked by a daughter owner. And I'm not going to discuss this further with you.
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Single men is the only social group benefited from feminism.
nbdspcl
["And I'm not going to discuss this further with you."]
Will you discuss it with me?
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"Oh the gal I'm to marry
Is a bow-legged sow
I've been soakin' up drink like a sponge"
[Rolling Stones]
Discuss it
Discuss it with Roy. You both seem to have communication deficit.
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Single men is the only social group benefited from feminism.
That's the wrong way
I would have hated school with only boys around me. Well, I hated it anyway.
Segregation is wrong. F**k that.
I Have Great Communication Skills!
"Discuss it with Roy. You both seem to have communication deficit." [nbdspcl]
I will discuss with that is not maybe with Roy. Don't Have I Don't think Devil Dogs is are not a theme the of the of the process of kitchen sink and for I did people pizza sausage Marlboro spark bong.
See, I know how to communicate.
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"Oh the gal I'm to marry
Is a bow-legged sow
I've been soaking' up drink like a sponge"
[Rolling Stones]
Give it a chance
This is NOT segregation!
This is an attempt to correct the sad state of the school district. Nothing more!
How can MRA's be against this, when you all know how badly boys are treated in public schools? When you know millions of young boys are put on medication because the female teachers don't want to deal with them?!
I truly hope this goes thru all the way, I want to see the changes in grades for the boys after about 5 years or so.
I will bet you that the boys will improve, and all the womens groups will start crying about how thier poor daughters are somehow missing out on something.
Dutch269
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I Think It's A Good Idea
I believe the idea of single-sex education is actually beneficial for the most part. The positives far outweight the negatives. As other posters have said, the boys grades will likely improve as a result of this. The reason being that they won't be as distracted by the girls for one (that's right, I think girls are to blame too! F*** being P.C.). Also, the girls will not be able to receive preferential treatment from the teachers, as Dutch pointed out. The boys needs will no longer be buried under the needs of the girls.
That being said, when I was in junior high one year they had an all girls class and an all boys class. It was actually really cool. It gave us boys more opportunities to make friends. And like I said, we weren't as distracted by the girls.
I'm all for this.
Evan AKA X-TRNL
Real Men Don't Take Abuse!
Who's going to teach what curriculum?
This looks as if it will provide an opportunity for the boys (and the girls, no doubt, but they seem to have plenty of opportunities already). Question is, who is going to teach the boys? And what curriculum, in what manner?
This experiment could easily be set up to fail, if the boys are given the same course work as the girls and taught in the same way. The boys would have gained nothing, and would continue to act out (thus "proving" that they are not able to learn) and the girls might do better without the "distraction" of the boys.
I wonder if the school officials are considering the idea that boys learn differently from girls and are modifying their course work and methods with that in mind? I wonder if there are enough male teachers to handle the boys' classes? That sounds a pretty tall order for a local school board. I suspect we will see a scenario where the girls do better and the boys gain nothing, and the experiement will be seen to "fail" and prove that boys "don't want to learn" at the same time.
Then again, I'm a cynical old curmudgeon who has seen the same game played on Blacks and Native Americans.
NobodyEspeciallyQuiet
Anthony,
I think you and I would understand that nobody special is a Beatles fan.
You cannot explain anything to a person who has not listened to Delta blues music.
Forget it.
It is like talking to a person who thinks haircuts are a defining aspect of his identity.
Jesus let this nobody go home and be quiet.....