Essay: The Demise of the American Male

At the end of the essay the author asks -"The question is why?"

I think he means "why would a society choose this path of misandry and obvious self-destruction?"

Just my $.02 worth -

If you can socialize men to be subordinant to women - a feeble form of authority at best - then men will be quite prepared to surrender to higher forms of authority: the State, corporations, domesticity, monogamy, religion, the Family Courts, media, consumerism, fradulent elections, The Patriot Act, etc.

Please, feel free to add to the list ...

'As this essay begins, one should be at once grieved and saddened by the state of affairs for Men in the United States of America. For the reality of the situation is this - the American Male is under attack: psychologically, emotionally, and spiritually, by the very people whom he was created to protect - American Women.

The above statement -- made by the author -- is the definition of nonsense.

It's like all men are genetically drafted into women's army by pop culture bs. No man was "created to protect women" anymore than women were created to protect men. I love how lopsided -- and misandric -- societies' views are.

Any man that believes he was "created to protect women" is a pathetic individual and a slave.

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The domain of Mr. Reality

The Women are at Fault by Matthias Matussek

Overall his essay is good and points up a lot of things but I will agree he is writing from the POV of an employee who wants to keep his job rather than a person tired of working for someone else. There is a big difference. The first case is what Esther Vilar said was "the slave's happiness". It is IMJ not a POV adopted by a man who wants to stop being used by women but one who just still wants to be useful/appreciated in some way. Not quite there in terms of male liberation. Still, his essay does have value. But like anyone's writings, there will be stuff you like/agree with and stuff you don't. Just the way it is.

many good points, lotsa truth there too. A-.

imho - don't necessarily believe amer. men were put here to protect amer. women. as head of the family each man had (in times long gone) a sort of built in desire/hard wiring to take a woman unto himself and make her one w/ himself, and thereby protect his mate. his partner. his trusted other half. there were expectations and responsibilities on both sides. now we only have expectations and responsibilities on the one side. men do. women get. men pay/owe. women receive.

a woman can do all sorts of things outside of marriage (for instance get pregnant) and the husband is expected to just let it go. nut up. be a man. do the right thing. but he really has no choice. bonded servants in the old days had more rights. our forefathers were very specific about NOT setting up debtor's prisons in the u.s. they perpetuate wrongs by their very nature. creating powerful and extensive armed police forces w/ powers of arrest and resultant forfeitures and payouts unlimited. lawmakers have essentially given the power to rule into the hands of a bunch of man-hating women. and men pay the bill (taxes/vawa) for that too. power gone MAD, MAD, MAD I SAY!

This essay is kind of like if the curtain were to fall, as the entertainers on stage were practicing an act to degrade the men in the audience. I love literature like this which exposes the undeniably male-hating "not so" legal system, as well as the other denigrating aspects of our society which us men have to put up with. I too disagree with the idea that we were made to protect women, but in the context of the sentence he makes a good point. He means the traditional role of a man in the family, is now being demonized, and for no reason at all. Just because we have external genitalia (and therein lies the answer to the mystery of why my screen name's xtrnl). He also makes a good point about how a nation could easily be overthrown when it's at war with itself. I said it before, but this quote is very appropriate. Jesus said, "a kingdom cannot stand divided against itself." The Son of God doesn't lie. I'm glad that more and more literature like this is popping up in the media and on the internet. I'm not going to worry too much about the situation regarding men's rights, cause I know a just God will punish all the spoiled bitches who make a mockery of the justice system by pretending to be a victim. After all, one of the commandments is "Thou shall not bear false witness against thy neighbour." Besides, a pile of shit can only get so high before it falls over. That doesn't mean that I'm going to stop fighting anti-male double standards, but I'm not going to let my emotions overthrow me, like feminists do.

BTW, I joined the Knights of Columbus today, an international fraternity of Catholic men which believes in giving back to the church and the community. I'm going to try to get my council to fund a shelter for the male victims of DV where I live. It's a cause I feel very strongly about. I also want to set up a help line.

Evan AKA X-TRNL
Real Men Don't Take Abuse!

xtrnl - "I'm not going to worry too much about the situation regarding men's rights, cause I know a just God will punish all the spoiled bitches who make a mockery of the justice system by pretending to be a victim."

Man, I'm way not any expert on Christian religious beliefs, but have you considered that the so-called "just God" delivered to Adam (without his asking) the first ever "spoiled bitch" on the planet?

Her name was Eve, and she screwed up everything. (She could not take directions and was enticed by an obvious phallic symbol, that talking garden snake...)

Adam got evicted from Paradise because of the skanky girlfriend that his all-knowing God forced upon him!

If God knew this was going to happen, why didn't he just serve Adam with a polite "you've got 30 days to leave Paradise" notice?

Why inflict that spoiled bitch on his first-created man-in-his-likeness? And every man born thereafter?

Sounds like God had a sociopathic moment when he should have rested....

That's something I think about quite often too. It's interesting how in the first few pages of the Bible, it shows that it was a woman who first sinned, and cost a man everything. This sounds all too familiar and common nowadays. I think that women are an additional test of faith for us men. God is trying to see how much we can handle for the sake of procreation.

I've also heard from more than one source that Eve wasn't actually Adam's first wife. His first wife was Lillith, and she was so evil she made Eve look like a saint. Lillith was actually the first child molester, as she fantasized about sex with boys.

One of the many things I love about the Bible is that it doesn't state anywhere that women should be given preferential treatment or that they should be punished differently from men. It's also nice how it shows how women are capable of evil, in several places. In God's eyes, we're all equal. God is the only true egalitarian if you think about it.

Evan AKA X-TRNL
Real Men Don't Take Abuse!

"In God's eyes, we're all equal."

With respect, I think that in God's eyes, we're all equally disposable and perfectly insignificant...

It is truly challenging to defend an "all-knowing" God in the face of today's reality.

(Name your favorite genocide....)

Unless S/He is omnipotently into sado-masochism.

Seriously.

In your own mind, you cannot make any sense of religion if you choose to "think" -- for even one logical moment.

But I choose to believe in God. The thing people forget is that he gave us free will, and thus we abuse it and sin. This sin creates a ripple affect which affects the world. It is people's fault the world is the way it is, not God's. And the more I read the Bible, I find it interesting how a lot of the passages agree with science. Like man living to be no older than 125. In Bio, I learned that if a person could live their whole life without injury or illness they wouldn't live longer than that age. It's interesting. I think, no I know that God's existence is logical. After all, logically someone or something has to be in ultimate control of the universe, right?

Evan AKA X-TRNL
Real Men Don't Take Abuse!

this is supposed to be about the so-called demise of the American male, not religious dogma.

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The domain of Mr. Reality

The Women are at Fault by Matthias Matussek

But Mr. R., you are such a valuable co-conspiracy theorist ... surely you can make a connection between the demise of the American male and mens' indoctrination into feminized churches?

If I have "faith" in an all-knowing God who sets me (symbolically) up with a skanky high-maintenance girlfriend who behaves badly and gets me evicted from Paradise, then I'll pretty much swallow anything right?

Seriously though --

A whole lot of men are conditioned into feminist beliefs through the church.

There is a lot of "men bad ... women good" bullshit spewing from the pulpits these days.

I would argue that organized religion is a major channel for covert feminism.

And thus, a legitimate topic for MRAs to discuss, politely.

I believe the church is actually a weapon to the feminists. In the bible, equal punishment regardless of gender is advocated. There are lots of bad women that are alluded to. Female promiscuity is not praised like feminists praise it with their "sexual liberation" crap. Remember Jezabel? BTW, I don't necessarily believe in the story of Adam and Eve. I agree it's likely symbolic.

The church is good for the world as a whole, IMHO, as it advocates treating everybody as you would like to be treated. I'm in the choir at my church and it seems to me that the girls in the choir with me are the complete opposite of feminists. They're a little more old fashioned. What does this have to do with the Demise of the American Male? I believe that the ultimate demise alluded to will never be complete as long as the church stands in the feminazis way.

But then again, I can only speak for my church. I don't know what other churches are out there. I'm sure there's a few that are a little messed up and possibly feminized. So, perhaps the church is a double-edged sword here.

Evan AKA X-TRNL
Real Men Don't Take Abuse!