New Zealand: Men's Rights Activist Turned Down as Lawyer

	posted by Matt on 03:58 PM February 13th, 2006
	EvilPundit writes "An outspoken men's activist and critic of New Zealand's legal system has been told he is not a fit and proper person to be a lawyer. But Peter Zohrab, acting president of New Zealand Equality Education Foundation, says he will not let matters rest there. "I just intend to keep at it and see how long it takes," he said of his quest to become a lawyer."

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Perils of Web Posting? (Score:2) by Roy on 04:55 PM February 13th, 2006 EST (#1) It's interesting that in New Zealand a person's political beliefs can apparently be used to try to disqualify an individual from practicing law. (We do that here in the States with judicial appointments, but I'm unaware of any equaivalent "screening" process based on ideology for law school grads taking the bar exam.) Even more noteworthy is the use of this prospective lawyer's web postings to make a case against his qualifications. Our own country's NSA seems to have become dedicated to capturing terabytes of data based on web tracings, cell phone calls, and credit card usage. The Orwellian vision is that search algorithyms can be perfected to a degree that would allow automated supercomputer profiling to detect potential terrorists, or even persons considering committing a crime. This "absurd" scenario was the basis for the recent sci-fi flick "The Minority Report." In Jamaica in the 1970's, they passed a "Sus Law" that allowed arrest and detention without a warrant for persons "SUSpected of the intent of committing a crime in the future...." Welcome to Planet Sus, gentlemen!

might have been his own behaviour though (Score:1) by n.j. on 08:44 PM February 13th, 2006 EST (#2) I mean come on, writing letters full of profanity to ex-judges is inappropriate and probably the reason for him being rejected. This might not be about his social views, but simply about the way he expressed them. That doesn't mean there's no misandry going on there, but to say to for sure, we'd need to investigate what exactly he said, what the contents of those letters were etc.

Re:might have been his own Heavy Manners? (Score:2) by Roy on 10:00 PM February 13th, 2006 EST (#3) I guess it's a good thing that George Washington told the King of England ---- "We in these colonies politely decline your offer of permanent subservience..." rather than being more directly offensive by stating that you can: "Go fuck yourself you silly English twit!" There is something called "heavy manners." Look it up.

Re:might have been his own Heavy Manners? (Score:1) by Davidadelong on 10:48 PM February 13th, 2006 EST (#5) Sometimes heavy manners are more succinct, no? I know that there have been more than a few times in my life when the phrase (Go fuck yourself!) just sounded downright perfect as it rolled of my lips! Because, sometimes the truth is rather graphic.

Just a little different here (Score:1) by Davidadelong on 10:10 PM February 13th, 2006 EST (#4) I believe that we control admissions in our law schools here in the U.S. from what I have read and heard. I also believe that after a Person passes the bar exam that if they go against the grain it becomes very difficult to practice. I wish the Man the best in his endeavor. It sounds like he needs best wishes. I will have to agree that cursing judges and magistrates is not wise if one wants to become one of the "bar" though. It seems that in order to be effective "in the system" one has to hide ones true feelings when trying to join the system. Almost like a spy, 00?

Re:Just a little different here (Score:2) by Dittohd on 01:05 PM February 14th, 2006 EST (#7) >It seems that in order to be effective "in the system" one has to hide ones true feelings when trying to join the system. Almost like a spy, 00? I think in order to be effective in changing the system, you have to NOT join it. Once you join it, it becomes too hard to buck it because everyone else around you (your "compatriots") will be against you and for most people, that's too much to handle. Take for example the group of congressmen who were swept into office back in 1994 with the intention and support of the people to change the system - by instituting term limits among other things. How long did it take for them to become acclimated into the good-old boy bureaucrats system, eating out of the hands of the lobbyists and doing everything possible to stay in office as long as possible. Rush Limbaugh has said on more than one occasion after being urged to run for president that he can do more good in his current position than as president. I agree. Dittohd

Re:Just a little different here (Score:1) by Davidadelong on 11:43 AM February 16th, 2006 EST (#9) I heartily agree! That was why the tongue and cheek comment about the 00?. The system is designed to use People whether or not they want to be used, and sometimes the best intentioned People get used when they even shun the system. That is why I don't have a career. I have been asked by People to run for political office, get my law degree, get my phd in either english, or psychology, and I shudder at the prospect. I would enjoy school again, I enjoyed digging and learning when I went to college. But the bottom line is I don't agree with the system that controls these endeavors. I will do what I can, when I can, and take each day as it comes. I guess I'm just a provocatuer for Human Rights. Could be worse, at least I like myself........

Not qualified...? (Score:1) by Thundercloud on 01:00 PM February 14th, 2006 EST (#6) Sounds like he's the only one in New Zealand who IS qualified to be a lawyer...   Thundercloud.   "Hoka hey!"

Kiwi lawyer's are all shit (Score:1) by dad4justice on 03:36 AM February 15th, 2006 EST (#8) To become a lawyer in new zealand you must suck & grovel to the femninazi whores and politically correct geeks that make up the sick sisterhood. As a pro se litigant you don't need no cocksucker gutless lawyer . dad4justice

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