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by Raymond Cuttill on 08:02 PM February 20th, 2006 EST (#1)
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It's not available on the net. Any chance of anyone sending me a copy of this to England. I'll try to put it on the Menshour.com.
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by Roy on 08:23 PM February 20th, 2006 EST (#2)
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I'm not a big Tucker fan.
Sometimes he's straight up and does an honest interview.
Other times he has a political agenda...
What do you guys predict he will do with a Men's Rights issue?
(PS -- I don't watch tee-vee.... so a web site with a transcript link or video stream would be appreciated!)
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by oregon dad on 12:54 PM February 22nd, 2006 EST (#5)
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CARLSON: Welcome back.
Have you noticed it‘s becoming less and less of a man‘s world? A new report says men have more demanding jobs, pursue fewer degrees and have suicide rates four to 10 times higher than their female counterparts.
Here to explain the findings by the New Hampshire Commission on the Status of Men is one of the commission‘s members, Mike Geanoulis. He joins us live tonight from Manchester, New Hampshire.
Mike, thanks for coming on.
MIKE GEANOULIS, NEW HAMPSHIRE COMMISSION ON THE STATUS OF MEN: Thanks for having me, Tucker.
CARLSON: So give us—give us the sad news, blunt and up front. How bad off are men?
GEANOULIS: Well, Tucker, we have a real crisis on our hands, both here in New Hampshire and, if our findings are any indication, this can be extended nationally, as well.
We have a severe problem in fatherlessness. The suicide rates are four to 10 times, as you mentioned. Educationally, boys are a year and a half behind girls in reading and comprehension. The scores are greatly reduced from what girls are attaining in education. And the health problems for men are—and boys—are much more severe than they are for women.
CARLSON: But wait a second, you never, ever, ever—you never hear about men‘s health problems. It‘s always women‘s health problems one hears about on television. And I thought men had all the advantages. I thought men—it‘s a man‘s world. They‘re killing themselves at a much higher rate? They‘re not getting college degrees? What could possibly be the cause?
GEANOULIS: You know, that‘s interesting. I‘ve been on this commission for a couple of years now, and I can only speculate as to the causes. We—it will take a little bit of detective work to get the causes up.
But I have an idea it might be linked with social instability, family decay, courts that don‘t recognize the importance for fathers with their children and their families, and the general neglect by society for men.
It‘s almost as if men don‘t matter or that it‘s OK to send them down in coal mines and, you know, hope that they get out of it alive. But yes, it‘s a real sad situation.
CARLSON: But wait a second. Here‘s my concern. And I think it does sound like a concern, but I don‘t want to see men become yet another whiny interest group. Virtually everybody whines about being oppressed and that, except men. You‘re not allowed to whine if you‘re a man. You‘re a man; shut up and deal with it. And I‘m for that. I‘m for shutting up and dealing with it.
I‘m concerned you‘re going to see men‘s groups and mennonism (ph), or
whatever the heck you‘re going to call it, and a men‘s movement. And that
I don‘t know; that bothers me, as a man. Shouldn‘t men just be quiet and deal with it?
GEANOULIS: You know, we would be quiet, except for the negative impact it has on our children and on our families and on society and on women. You know, it‘s not good for women, for men to have such a low status and to have such difficulty making their way through life and to maintain a relationship with their children, having two or three jobs.
If you look at the book, “The Decline of Males,” written by Lionel Tiger, you will find some serious problems are accruing that need to be addressed. We can‘t just set this thing aside as a bunch of whining men, complaining too much.
CARLSON: I mean, however, it is hard to imagine a male counterpart to Oprah. The “Oprah” show, for all its genius, is a show about women being oppressed a lot of the time. I mean, let‘s be honest: it‘s a show about how men are mean and how women are hurt by mean men.
Can you imagine a show hosted by a man, complaining about how men have it rough? I mean, that would—that‘s a disgusting idea to me. Would you want to see such a show?
GEANOULIS: We might not be ready for that yet.
CARLSON: I hope not.
GEANOULIS: I think that we have to—we have to reveal these facts as we get them. And you know, people are starting to get sensitive to this notion about men dying 10 years before their time or failing educationally or not going on beyond high school, dropping out of high school, not pursuing post-graduate degrees and in general, contributing to the decline of society.
CARLSON: I didn‘t mean in any way to make light of it, I think it‘s an important topic, and that‘s why we‘re excited to have you on. Mike Geanoulis, thanks a lot for joining us tonight.
GEANOULIS: Yes, I would ask you to look at those problems, too, through the eyes of children.
CARLSON: Yes.
GEANOULIS: You know, growing up dysfunctional and rudderless and doing drug abuse, alcohol abuse, teen pregnancy, the whole litany of low wellness levels. You know, these things need to be addressed, Tucker.
CARLSON: I absolutely agree with that.
GEANOULIS: These are serious, serious problems here.
CARLSON: Absolutely.
GEANOULIS: Especially the fatherless ones.
CARLSON: As long as there‘s not—as long as there‘s not too much emotion and sharing involved, I‘m completely, completely in favor.
Mike Geanoulis, thanks a lot for joining us tonight. Thanks.
GEANOULIS: You‘re quite welcome. Thanks for having me.
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by Scott
(scott@mensactivism.org)
on 07:25 AM February 23rd, 2006 EST (#6)
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Thanks for posting the transcript. Weak? I don't think so in light of the few minutes Mike was able to speak, and Carlson's repeated attempts to put Mike on the defensive by trying to portray men's issues as whining.
I'm working on getting a digital version of the video ready - I hope to have it by the end of this weekend, and I will post it when it becomes available.
Scott
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by Uberganger on 08:51 AM February 23rd, 2006 EST (#7)
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CARLSON: But wait a second. Here‘s my concern. And I think it does sound like a concern, but I don‘t want to see men become yet another whiny interest group. Virtually everybody whines about being oppressed and that, except men. You‘re not allowed to whine if you‘re a man. You‘re a man; shut up and deal with it. And I‘m for that. I‘m for shutting up and dealing with it.
I am banging my head against a wall as I write. How can anyone be as retarded as this Carlson fella? I know there are some dumb people on the planet, but you'd think there'd be some kind of lower limit to that, otherwise these people would forget to keep breathing.
Somebody should have pointed out to this grade-A, card-carrying arsehole that none of these problems can be dealt with by shutting up. How can anyone say "You‘re not allowed to whine if you‘re a man" and not question who, exactly, is doing the allowing? How can anyone be so lacking in insight into their own words?
I‘m concerned you‘re going to see men‘s groups and 'meninism', or whatever the heck you‘re going to call it, and a men‘s movement. And that, I don‘t know; that bothers me, as a man. Shouldn‘t men just be quiet and deal with it?
Arrrggghhh!!!!! The only way to be quiet and deal with it is to do nothing, to change nothing, to allow it to go on and get ever worse, then to normalise it as 'just the way men are'. What a prick this guy is, and how feebly the other man responded to him. It's no wonder the 'men's movement' is so useless, while feminists can practically dictate the law.
I'm so furious that one guy can be so relentlessly stupid, and another can let him get away with it. Any fems watching that crap must have laughed and laughed until the tears were streaming down their faces.
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by MR on 03:29 PM February 21st, 2006 EST (#3)
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I've heard the name before, but is he on CNN MSNBC, or some other network? What is the name of his show? I tried to do a cable search on his name and nothing came up so he probably has his show listed by the show name.
If you have a listing for him in your region all details would be helpful. I would like to see this if possible.
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by Roy on 05:31 PM February 21st, 2006 EST (#4)
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Tucker Carlson is apparently a buzz on MSNBC, with his show "The Situation."
There does not appear to be a web stream; however he does publish select videos after the programs air on broadcast.
It might be worth communicating that you'd like the NH Men's Commission segment to be webcast.
Here's contacts that I turned up --
"The Situation" home page at -
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8063292/
Tell us what you really think:
The Situation encourages you to share your thoughts about a story in the news, the show, or Tucker Carlson himself. Call 1-877-TCARLSON to give your two cents. He checks the voicemail every night on-air.
e-mail --- Tucker@msnbc.com
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