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Women can never be evil and a pedophile, or a rapist. If she does something criminal-like, then it's because she's insane. We should let her off the hook and give her a cookie for being oppressed by an evil patriarchy--wait that's why she committed the crime! It was patriarchy!!
HOW LONG IS SOCIETY AND PEOPLE LIKE US GOING TO LET THIS INJUSTICE SHIT ALL BASED ON FEMINAZI GENDER BIAS LAST?!!! Let's put more pressure on our politicians and the media and slap them with the truth shall we my good sirs.
*Ms.Thea the Pre-Law Major, Pro-Gender Egalitarian, and Pro-Reproductive Rights Activist*
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You sound pretty radical to me, do you really think people with a different opinion will listen if you confront them in this way?
I don't want to offend you but, seeing some of your posts, I can't help but wonder if you're a man posing as a female. Otherwise, it would seem like you hate your own gender quite a bit (which is often observed among men of course).
Also, it's tireing to read all these articles about criminal women here, many of them just listing one crime after the next (looks very American to me) without making any sensible connection to men's rights, just screaming that women can be bad too - most already know that.
Of course there's also many good articles here. Being from Germany, I was planning to contribute information about some important delevopments in Europe you missed here. Maybe someone can help me with that by correcting my translations etc., also for a multilingual website I am having in mind.
It should be someone whose English is really faultless, naturally.
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Honey, if you would like for me to prove to you that I am female, please come to Muncie Indiana, Ball State University, LaFollete Domitory, Brayton Hall, the sixth floor, room 611. Ask for someone named Adriane Michelle Roane (yeah, 'Thea' is just a pseudonym because I wish I was named that instead of Adriane because people do think that I am a guy because my name is spelled A-d-r-i-a-n-e.)
It would be nice to have a visitor instead of my drunken roomate (and she's failing all of her classes because of it). You'll run into a nice girl named Jessie. She's a brunnette and tall, and the resident hall person of our floor.
Welcome to America pal. Not everybody lies on the internet. Just because someone is radical doesn't make them a liar. Don't assume such bullshit over your little perceptions on how people "should" sound and talk. Sheesh, some people. A radical female for Men's Rights, who knew? Because I make sharp criticism of my own gender I must be a big liar about my sex organs. You and Phaedra would get along just fine on this board.
Once again because I make observations of *MY* gender I must be a misogynists. That's the kind of bullshit the radical-feminists here spout off to me when I voice my Pro-Men Rights ideology. I'm getting sick of people assuming this and that about me.
Come fucking visit me if you or anyone else wants fucking proof as to who I am. Always assuming things based on *your* misguided perceptions is a sign of ignorance. Don't assume. Investigate and see for yourself. I'm waiting. Seriously people I'm lonely and I need company from people who aren't always drunk and high like my roommate. MAUS? Thundercloud? Thomas? I'll just tell the hall director people that you're all my uncles.
*Ms.Thea the Pre-Law Major, Pro-Gender Egalitarian, and Pro-Reproductive Rights Activist*
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I can't help myself but I GOTTA say this:
Hey Thea (Adriane) ...
I'll just tell the hall director people that you're all my uncles.
Hey Thea, it's "Uncle Steven" ... have you been a naughty girl ...
We like our naughty Thea.
(I'm sorry Thea ... but that was just too fucking easy to pass up on - hope you got a sense of humor buddy!)
Steven
Guerilla Gender Warfare is just Hate Speech in polite text
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LMAO!!! Oh yeah, I got a sense of humor! Man, that was just dirty, but hilarious! I'm so wrong in the head :-P
*Ms.Thea the Pre-Law Major, Pro-Gender Egalitarian, and Pro-Reproductive Rights Activist*
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Hm, I'm missing a quote function here..
>please come to Muncie Indiana, Ball State University
I'd love to, but I'm afraid it would be too time consuming and the flight is not cheap either.
People wouldn't think you're a guy here, btw, as Adriane sounds quite different from Adrian unless it got mangled through the English pronounciation :-).
> Welcome to America pal.
Am I under arrest? 8[
> Sheesh, some people.
Yeah, especially Germans! Jesus..
> You and Phaedra would get along just fine on this board.
Me and who?
> I'm getting sick of people assuming this and that about me.
Well, you should think about what image you create with that kind of language.. I think it's better to be a bit more diplomatic. And if even I, as a sympathizing person, have the idea that someone could be posing as a woman to give himself more credibility, our adversaries might allege that very quickly.
> Come fucking visit me if you or anyone else wants fucking proof as to who I am
Wow. Isn't the F word a no-no there? Some movies that are "6+ years" here are R-rated in the US because of "obscene language", which is not even a rating criteria in our censorship system (they concentrate on violence).
> Always assuming things based on *your* misguided perceptions is a sign of ignorance.
What? I'm too misguided and ignorant to understand what you're saying.
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I can tell you now that many of us here agree with you, but we have all gone through this already. The bottom line is that people who want to lash out and rant and rave will continue to do so, and not feel the least bit bothered by your or my opinions. I left this board for a while because of the hatespeach, vulgarity and name calling, and it is no better elsewhere.
The best thing to do is just ignore threads with certain people's names on them. You will not get anyone to change, and there are many here with a lot to offer.
I do hope you stay, we need good people who can think and write well, and you seem to do both, even with the language barrier.
BQ
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>The bottom line is that people who want to lash out and rant and rave will continue to do so
I can't accept that. There are far too many sites on the net that support absurd opinions, some of them are even very well made.
One has to be eloquent and concentrate on facts to stick out from all that weirdness, and rants are not helping.
I have a lot of anger in me and I like to give people a verbal beating sometimes, but I try to do it without disqualifying myself with zelotry and profanity.
Well-considered criticism has changed societies while vulgarity creates an image of little education and makes the message itself unbeliavable quickly. Politicians are people with good skills in language and rhetoric, they don't listen to swearwords.
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I know that. I tried until I was blue in the face to get the few people who spout to see that what they said affected all of us. Stand next to someone who smells like shit and you end up smelling like shit too. But no one wants to hear it. They feel they have a right to say whatever they please, and if you do not like it then leave. They feel that everyone is entitled to their opinion and to say it however they like. They feel that the feminists have been telling them how to speak for too long, and they will be damned if they will be forced to hold back any longer. They fail to see how Steven or Thomas are 100 times more effective in their well thought out posts than any ranting hate speach.
SO, you are left with the choices to A stay and just let it all slide by, B leave and find another group, or C start your own group. I chose A and B. I go here for the news and some banter occasionally, and to join large letter writing campaigns but my real work is done on a small scale yahoo group.
You have to chose what works for you. If you can't stomach the raving, then I will hate to see you go. But if after 2 years they still won't even consider what I am saying, then you are not going to have much luck either.
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by Anonymous User on 10:12 PM November 16th, 2004 EST (#7)
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"I was planning to contribute information about some important delevopments in Europe you missed here. Maybe someone can help me with that by correcting my translations etc.,"
My entire family, on both sides, came from Germany in the 1800's so I'm third or fourth generation German/American depending which side of the family you're looking at. I've never been to Germany, and only know a few words of German that I probably mispronounce.
Go ahead and post here anytime you like and don't worry about your English. 99% of Americans don't speak it properly either. We're not British, so we're not so terribly proper about the English language.
We would be very interested to know what is going on in Germany. Is radical/gender feminism a force that is making men's lives difficult there like it is here in America? We hear very little about the effects of radical/gender feminism in Germany and would welcome the information.
Germany is a western country, but since the language is not English, we thought maybe radical/gender feminism might be not as bad there as it is here in America.
If you sign your posts under a fictious name that is fine. It does help to have some kind of name signed to posts so we can keep track of conversations better.
Also, you may have noted that I included in quotes and italics a brief sentence from your post. Doing that makes it more clear who one is replying too.
Sincerely, Ray
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> Vegates Mein Herr (sp?)
Sorry but better spelling won't do here, I have no idea what "vegates" is supposed to mean ;).
> Go ahead and post here anytime you like and don't worry about your English. 99% of Americans don't speak it properly either. We're not British, so we're not so terribly proper about the English language.
I do care about proper language. I can't stand bad spelling. Even reading "it's" instead of "its" pains me. From my point of view, correct language is a sign of seriousness and respectability, I'm very conservative in that matter. Some errors in a forum are excusable, of course, but I would not want a text on a web page to be riddled with mistakes.
I will try to post more information about the situation here on the weekend. Right now, I have little time because of my work.
Too bad that there's not a general Forum here, so I will have to comment on some article, or do you want a follow-up to this thread?
>Also, you may have noted that I included in quotes and italics a brief sentence from your post. Doing that makes it more clear who one is replying too.
As a CS student who has been online for the last 12 years, I have to say the web forums are a step back in these matters. Even the worst BBS software of the late 80s had better quoting functions than Slashcode etc. Usually, I'm just sticking to the old standard of putting a ">" before each line.
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by Anonymous User on 09:18 PM November 17th, 2004 EST (#15)
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"I will try to post more information about the situation here on the weekend. Right now, I have little time because of my work.
Too bad that there's not a general Forum here, so I will have to comment on some article, or do you want a follow-up to this thread?",/i>
If you have a story from a site you can submit it for posting by clicking the "Submit A News Story" button in the left colume, and near the top.
I do try to proof read and spell check most things before I post. I was an English major for a couple of years, but dropped out.
I'll ask my German friend at work how to spell the word.
Ray
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by Anonymous User on 02:07 PM November 18th, 2004 EST (#18)
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I hope you don't mind MY spelling errors.
I'm Cherokee and haven't always spoken English.
While I now speak it fairly fluently I still have trouble with spelling, at times.
but i du tri tu bee karful..., (^_^)
Thundercloud.
"Hoka hey!"
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>I'll ask my German friend at work how to spell the word.
With the help of someone else here, I finally got it .. you mean "wie geht's?". Thanks for asking, I'm fine ;).
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I can't help but wonder if you're a man posing as a female.
Are you a female posing as a man?
Also, it's tireing to read all these articles about criminal women here, many of them just listing one crime after the next (looks very American to me)
Feminists have aligned themselves with conservative religious elements over certain issues, pornography is one, but the moral value of men and women is another. There is a children's rhyme in English:
What are little girls made of?
What are little girls made of?
Sugar and spice and all things nice.
What are little boys made of?
What are little boys made of?
Rats and snails and puppy dog's tails. Anti-male indoctrination starts early. You don't hear feminists complaining about that one for some reason.
Because of this bizarre notion that women are somehow morally superior, crimes committed by women are largely ignored by the mainstream media, so it is important to highlight them. The purpose of it is to challenge this moral stereotype.
without making any sensible connection to men's rights, just screaming that women can be bad too
That's your job. If you have some useful analysis, let's hear it.
most already know that.
You'd be surprised.
Maybe someone can help me with that by correcting my translations etc.
Your English looks fine to me.
Tell us more about the situation in Germany.
Feminism will continue as long as there is money to be made from hating men.
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> Your English looks fine to me.
While my English is probably better than most people's here, there is a problem that is very hard to overcome: sophisticated English uses a lot of foreign words from all kinds of languages as well as a quite unusually large number of phrases that are also often not found in dictionaries. Compared to German, these two attributes compensate for the also unusual lack of grammatical rules and innate words for many things.
For example, an esophagus is simply a "fare-tube" (speiseröhre) in German. You don't need to know Greek to talk about parts of your body.
In short, I need to stick to relatively simply sentences and expressions and that's a bit frustrating. Writing in German with a professional translation might be worse for my ego but would get us better results.
> Tell us more about the situation in Germany.
Gonna do that on the weekend, maybe earlier if I have the time (doubtful).
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Hi n.j.
I lived for a couple years in Germany and would be interested in your site. Assuming it is pro-men's rights and anti-feminist, that is. Do you have a URL for it yet? I am somewhat fluent in German, so I may be able to review your translations.
By the way, this is an uncensored board, so people can say exactly what they want. I think Thea is just tired of all the negative influence feminism has had on both men and women. I find her therapeutic and entertaining. Personally, I'm still drawn to women, but I find them very contaminated with the "me first" attitude, and most of them have been thoroughly indocrinated with the standard feminist false data and misinformation.
What are the developments in Europe? I'm very interested. Where in Germany are you?
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> I lived for a couple years in Germany and would be interested in your site.
It's not there yet and I'm an extremely bad designer who has a high pretense to anything he publishes, though, so I might need some help by a capable web designer to start it.
> I find her therapeutic and entertaining.
Okay but it could scare off neutral people who come by here just to get information. Giving the image of some kind of a zealot to people is not a good thing.
I've been around computers since the 80s and I liked the rise of the Free Software Movement. That movement only gained momentum in world of the "normal" people after it stopped hitting people in the face verbally all the time. Most appeals for protests against certain software companies etc. are supplemented by the advice "be polite in your comments".
That movement has come a long way and there is something to be learned from it.
> Personally, I'm still drawn to women, but I find them very contaminated with the "me first" attitude, and most of them have been thoroughly indocrinated with the standard feminist false data and misinformation.
I like women a lot (no, not what you think ;) and I think most of them are absolutely not like that small minitory we're fighting against here. Of course, many are a bit indoctrinated, but so are many men.
> What are the developments in Europe? I'm very interested. Where in Germany are you?
More about that on the weekend ;). I'm in northern Germany, Hamburg to be specific.
If you are fluent in German, you might want to visit these sites:
rotemaenner.de
maennerrat.de
pappa.com
Viel Spaß beim Lesen.
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It's a simple one so you won't need to wait until the weekend (but if you do .. I understand as I have work to do also!)
I noticed in your post when you used the German word you got the "o" to have the two dots over it.
And in your "Signature Line" you have another "unusual" character.
How do you do this?
By the way ... welcome. Oh, the guy who said: "Vegates" was saying "Hello" in German. I read it out loud and realized what is was.
He was trying to extend you courtesy, as we do enjoy people from other countries visting here.
We have had Indians, Germans, Mexicans, Chinese, and many other people come here due to their interest in our actions.
Steven
Guerilla Gender Warfare is just Hate Speech in polite text
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by Anonymous User on 02:14 PM November 18th, 2004 EST (#19)
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We have INDIANS on this site? Where?!? Where?!?
Thundercloud.
"Hoka hey!"
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ACTUALLY,
I was referring to those Indians from INDIA who came over here talking about the laws in INDIA.
However, that said, I should have been more clear and properly given props to my bro from the US of A.
Steven
Guerilla Gender Warfare is just Hate Speech in polite text
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by Anonymous User on 06:35 PM November 18th, 2004 EST (#22)
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>And in your "Signature Line" you have another "unusual" character.
>How do you do this?
Simple, I hit the respective key: öäüß.
That wasn't too hard, was it? ;)
And it's not an "o with two dots over it", it's an ö (pronounced "öh" with the o similar to the u in "murderer" which is called "mörder" in German or the ea in "early"). Ä is like the a in anger and ü is like.. hmm, I can't think of any English word except maybe for how a British would pronounce "rue". The characters are also called Umlaute, a word which found its way into English as "umlauts" .
>was saying "Hello" in German. I read it out loud and realized what is was.
I said it aloud and couldn't figure it out. Then I tried to apply American pronounciation to it, and suddenly I realized that he meant "wie geht's?", "how's it going" or "how are you". Thanks for the hint ;).
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Ohhhhh .... that's freaking NEAT! NOW I can make interesting words and use the letters to emphsize what I mean.
Thanks for helping out the resident blond!
Steven
Guerilla Gender Warfare is just Hate Speech in polite text
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Been through this song and dance before.
1. This board has angry people. The f-word isn't banned here, certain posts may go below your threshold though. But I don't think language is the determination. If you use it to only try and insult someone, it might. If you use to, for lack of a better word, 'flavor' your post that has a point, it probably won't.
2. Thea is a girl. Why should someone who is angry at the way females have acted automatically be a male? People seem to have a lot less trouble believing in male feminists than female musculinists [or whatever term].
3. Though I could understand that perhaps a slightly less radical website should be a guide into men's rights issues [I'm really sure this was the first one I came across, though], I like it here. You want to argue a particular person's opinions into the ground, fine. But a few places to be angry, whether or not they're well done, isn't a bad thing.
4. I really wouldn't say most people believe women can be bad too. A woman commits an awful crime, such as child abuse or murder, and people say "the poor thing was messed up in the head" and if she is found innocent by reason of insanity, it is considered the right verdict. If a man does the same, he is an evil monster, and if he is found insane, he just had a slimeball lawyer who got him off. Yeah, pointing to ever crime women do gets old. Pointing to every one that people aren't going to realize the disparity between the genders? Not until women stop receiving 1/3 of the setence for the same crime will this be old.
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I was watching the afternoon program "The View" for a bit. If you don't know, its a show about 4-5 women talking about random things, usually entertainment-oriented.
But one of the women was furious talking about one of these such cases. She couldn't believe that the media would dare call such an event "an affair" and pointed out the anti-male bias in these situations. It was very refreshing.
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