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I don't think this necessarily marks her as a feminazi. Hell I would have kicked his ass for that and I'm sure not one.
All kidding aside, I have frequently posted on other forums that feminists or those who court their favour at election time are of ALL political stripes and no elected official could ever purge all of the appointees in your government who are feminist sympathizers. Here is something I have posted at all mens activism sites in Canada:
The Government of Canada is unique among the nations of the democratic world in that it has legislated as a "permanent" attachment to itself a special interest lobby group that has a policy influence that is far beyond it's actual popular support. The National Advisory Council on the Status of Women is what created and is sustaining this nightmare. Get this straight...SOW IS THE ENEMY. They are exempt of the usual requirements of registering as a political party, running in election, suffering the consequences of pissing off voters, and all of the normal things that one would associate with a democratic system. We have in fact created a public service bureaucracy who's members are by patronage appointment and who have a career investment in perpetuating a culture of mysandry. Get rid of SOW or at least achieve a carrot and stick control of hurting their funding when they go too far and your other problems will have a chance to be rectified. The best way do do this is to create as much public embarrassment for them as possible when they go too far. The SOW blacklist may be the best thing that has ever happened to us. Do not loose the momentum of the counterattack. Make them fully accountable for every piece of "policy research" they ever post and DO NOT LET THEM GET AWAY WITH ANOTHER DAMN THING. The closest they came to having their funding cut off altogher was during the Mulrooney era when they were so bored that they could find nothing better to do that go through Hansard with a pink highlighter looking for comments that they deemed "hetero-sexist". I think Paul Martin's ouster of Sheila Copps might be a golden opportunity. Instead of trying to get an MP to fight our cause...make it project number one to put as much effort as possible into the defeat of anyone and everyone appointed to the cabinet post of Secretary of State for Status of Women and keep up THAT pressure until IT becomes the kiss of death on anybody's political career.
The key to "disempowering" the feminists in your government is punitive measures against those who harbour and champion the appointees...not which party you elect.
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The guy should have used the letter as toliet paper and eaten lots of Taco Bell just to try it out.
If the guy had been a female, Spero would have done one of those "oh you poor dear, the Patriarchal Conservatives have brainwashed you and now you're their victimized minion doing their misogynistic bidding," bullshit. I've heard that little talk before minus the Conservative part (because I've made it well known that I am *NOT* Republican or Conservative)
Even if she knew he was a student she wouldn't have cared. A majority of these liberal female professors think that they can do whatever the hell they want whenever they want, because they can thanks to our laws that protects them.
So Spero thought and still thinks it's okay to use violence against a male who disagrees with her, like a typical female faculty member of a college. I have a male friend who is scared shitless by his female Anthropoly professor because she is a self-proclaimed misandrist.
There are just some bitches in this world who think they can do whatever they want and whenever they want. I hope the young man sues Spero's ass for every little dime the bitch has. But since she's an educator (not really but that's her title) she won't have much money to offer, darn. Still the young man can make it so she has to live out of her car :-)
*Ms.Thea the Pre-Law Major, Pro-Gender Egalitarian, and Pro-Reproductive Rights Activist*
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I think a lot of "womyn's studies" majors who can't get a real job, and are not really educated go into Sociolgy or Anthropology. Pretend for a second that Womyn's studes was a real discipline (yea, I smirk at that too) .. a related field would BE one of those two.
I had an anthro professor like that. This was in the early 90's before they became so smug and could get away with that shit. I debated her constantly and, IMO, often won. She hated me for it.
Nowadays ... it amazes me that your friend has a teacher who is (openly or not) an "avowed misandrist". Can you imagine someone who was an avowed (pardon the words guys, but it's the only way to make the point) "nigger" or "chink" or "gook" or "mud people" hater? Whether they were sly or not ... they'd be fired.
And THEN these SAME "professors" claim to be "disadvantaged", "oppressed", and "fighting for equality".
They are NOT true believers (well, not many). THey know it's bullshit .. but they have so much invested in it that they can't get out and start over.
I mean, Gloria Steinem (a woman needs a man like a fish needs a bicycle) finally found her bicycle .. and aint said shit about marriage since.
Go figure.
Steven
Guerilla Gender Warfare is just Hate Speech in polite text
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Steinem's husband died about a year ago. I hope the man has found peace and *FREEDOM!!!*
*Ms.Thea the Pre-Law Major, Pro-Gender Egalitarian, and Pro-Reproductive Rights Activist*
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by Anonymous User on 06:43 PM November 2nd, 2004 EST (#7)
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Actually, I find it strange that your anthro teacher is a misandrist. Anthropologists tend to be hard-core evolutionary determinists, and therefore find it difficult to blame men or women for their behavior. After all, can we help it if most of us tend to (at least try to) be polygynous when we as mammals and sexually dimorphic primates are wired that way? Can we be blamed for aggressive behavior when thousands of generations of females chose aggressive males as mates? My female anthro teacher seemed completely dispassionate about gender issues. Maybe your teacher really DID major in womens' studies.
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Our current Governor General in Canada, Adrian Clarkson, was one of the worst mysandrist bitches on the CBC. Her husband is refered to in Ottawa as the "hamster". He is actually not permitted to speak in public and Adrian has actually been seen giving him a cuff on the few occassions that he started to. She is on the way out though because of her extravagant spending and expense accounts.
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People need to understand the "troika" that now rules the academic PC gulag at our colleges and universities:
1) the tyranny of feminism disguised as an idealistic moral crusade for "inclusion"
2) affirmative action masquerading as "diversity"
3) the tenure system fronting as protector of "academic freedom"
Add 1 + 2 + 3 and you get precisely the type of teflon-coated feminazi professor who felt justified in physically assaulting a student whose opinions differed from her PC creed.
(Most of the assaults occur in the classroom, via ideological conditioning and deliberate exclusion of "diversity" of opinion...)
In the last days of the Soviet Union, the State exiled their most threatening political dissidents to psychiatric asylums where they were "rehabilitated" via drugs, cognitive therapies, and death.
Our nation's universities have neatly avoided this messy dilemma.
They simply no longer hire or promote anyone with a "deviant" (read:non-PC) philosophy.
And the administrators are merely the "grocery clerks sent by errand boys..."
"It's a terrible thing ... living in fear."
- Roy: hunted replicant, Blade Runner
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by Anonymous User on 05:14 PM November 3rd, 2004 EST (#15)
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Steven-
What are "Mud people"?
I've heard that name before but people I ask won't tell me what it means.
...Would I be considered one, if it means what I think it means...? If so, that may be why they don't want to say what it is.
Thundercloud.
"Hoka hey!"
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First off, thanks for taking my explanation in stride and realizing I'm providing an explanation and not an endorsement of racial comments.
From what I understand "mud people" refers to all the "brown" people of any mix (Mexican, Native, mixed people of 'swarthy' complexion etc) blood.
Generally anyone not white who is of brown complexion.
Steven
Guerilla Gender Warfare is just Hate Speech in polite text
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by Anonymous User on 12:21 PM November 4th, 2004 EST (#27)
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That's what I thought it might mean.
Well, then that explains why no one wanted to tell me. They were trying to protect me, I guess.
By their definition I AM a "mud person", then. I am Cherokee, but I'm also of Scottish and Irish mix as well. (and it shows) The term I was used to hearing was "half breed". I actually can handle that better than "mud people".
And yeah, I've been called a "prairie nigger" before. But the joke's on them. We Cherokee are WOODLAND tribes, not prairie! (^_^)
Thundercloud.
"Hoka hey!"
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by Anonymous User on 11:45 PM November 3rd, 2004 EST (#23)
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I've had similar experiences with female Anthro instructors at my local college, though I noticed that the problematic ones were teaching the Cultural Anthro classes rather than the Physical Anthro discipline. It seems to be a subject that permits them more freedom to preach their ideologies in the guise of a real class, whereas the one that I took Physical Anthro from mainly stuck to "just the facts ma'am."
The Cultural Anthro class I tried to take made me feel so angry and frustrated after every class session that I ended up dropping it halfway through, despite the fact that doing so put me on academic probation with regards to financial aid.
The instructor continually steered class lectures and discussions to her all-important "gender issues", and I learned to dread those words, because it was always just so much man-bashing disguised as "multicultural anthropological studies". It should have been called Multicultural Women's Studies. Even the handouts we got were full of bias...the article and video we had in class on how the genders communicate differently basically took all the negative communication traits and dumped them in the laps of males, while attributing all the positive traits to women.
It didn't help that the class was 90% female (I am not exaggerating, I may even be underestimating), and the instructor was, for the most part, preaching to the converted. To the credit of some of the other students, some of them did at least seem bored by the continual discussion of gender issues, since there is clearly a lot more to learn than just that in the subject at hand.
Overall though, I was reminded how much feminists go on about "hostile environments", and realized that that class was a very hostile environment for me. I toughed it out longer than I should have because I needed the credits, but it just wasn't worth it, and I said as much in my appeal to get my financial aid back.
Most of the female instructors at that school do seem to be feminists, and most of the instructors are female, so it is hard to avoid that kind of thing, but that class was just too much to put up with.
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Can you imagine what would have happened to a MALE professor who had kicked a FEMALE student (known to be a student or not) ... and further imagine the female was a LIBERAL!? He'd be on UNPAID leave THAT day.
Sorry bitch, but you assaulted the wrong person, and if a student assaulted YOU I doubt you would accept a simple apology.
Time for her to realize she just f*cked up her career and needs to put on a McDonalds uniform.
(didn't mean to insult McDonalds)
Steven
Guerilla Gender Warfare is just Hate Speech in polite text
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by Anonymous User on 05:19 PM November 3rd, 2004 EST (#16)
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>"(didn't mean to insult McDonalds)"
That's okay, I prefer Burger King, any way...!
(^_^)
Thundercloud.
"Hoka hey!"
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This feminazi belongs behind bars and they should throw the key in a river.
Bert
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From now on, men's rights first.
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In fact I bet she is already a "folk hero" among the fem-bots on campus and also among certain students, in particular female ones. I am sure the guy she assaulted is villified too just for the "mistake" of having been there, wearing the shirt he as wearing, and of course the ultimate sin, of being male.
Again, for the 100th time: Female: innocent even when proven guilty. Male: guilty even when proven innocent.
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by Anonymous User on 05:23 PM November 3rd, 2004 EST (#17)
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I hope he IS sucsessful in sueing her.
Then all those fembots will see her made an example of, and maybe they'll learn something.
...Oh, wait a minute, I forgot, you have to have some degree of INTELEGENCE in order to learn something.
My bad.
Thundercloud.
"Hoka hey!"
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Her apology was a joke.
"Before the incident, I did not know you and that you are a Fort Lewis student. I am entirely sorry"
Does this mean that if he had not been a student, then it would have been OK to kick him? She's only worried about losing her job, she doesn't give a f*ck about him.
Feminism will continue as long as there is money to be made from hating men.
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Bartel, Brad 247-7100
bartel_b@fortlewis.edu
President
President's Office
Eppich, David P 247-7328
EPPICH_D@fortlewis.edu
Asst to the President for External Affairs
I'm gonna write them a nice little letter (polite, but firm!)
Steven
Guerilla Gender Warfare is just Hate Speech in polite text
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by Anonymous User on 04:05 PM November 3rd, 2004 EST (#14)
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I just contacted and left a voice mail with David Eppich (970) 247-7328. I was polite but firm. I explained that it was inconceivable to me that a faculty member could assault a student and still retain her job. I expressed broader concerns about hostility and harrassment of males by female professors. Lets get some activism going we can make a difference. Please call and write today!!
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by Anonymous User on 09:34 PM November 3rd, 2004 EST (#22)
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I just received an e-mail from Dr Brad Bartel. Ms Maria Spero was fired!!!
Activism works if we fiercely engage in it!!!
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Fuck yeah! I was just reading this thread and getting ready to contact the administration, but it's already happened!
I think I will write the president a letter of support and encouragement.
Anon, can you share the email with us?
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by Anonymous User on 10:22 AM November 4th, 2004 EST (#25)
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Dr Bartel simply wrote that the part-time instructor in question was fired 3 days ago.
The idea of sending the president a support e-mail message is a good one because I am sure he is experiencing some type of backlash from the fembots.
We need to follow up and support those that take action to protect men's rights.
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by Anonymous User on 12:26 PM November 4th, 2004 EST (#28)
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Yeah, I'm a bit hesitant to celebrate, myself.
Remember when the CORNELL SUN said those two jerky editors of theres were fired...?
...Well, they weren't.
Thundercloud.
"Hoka hey!"
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I'll wait for confirmation.
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I found a couple links confirming the "resignation" here and here. I think this was more Republican activism than men's activism, though.
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by Anonymous User on 12:17 PM November 5th, 2004 EST (#31)
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Whether its political activism or Male activism, it's good to see a person held accountable for her bad behavior.
~Geese R. Howard
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by Anonymous User on 12:29 PM November 5th, 2004 EST (#32)
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"I think this was more Republican activism than men's activism, though."
Colorado, unlike states like California, has an academic free speech law so that is also a factor.
From the 1st article you linked:
"Spero's "immediate resignation," with a strong statement in defense of free speech on or off campus."
Moral character is still a requirement for working in schools, especially as a teacher, and considering the present zero tolerance policy of schools to violence (such as Colorado school Columbine), the public nature of this event, the student status of the victim, the lack of job security of the female "perp" makes it pretty obvious that anyone in her position would not be keeping their job in any school.
Part time teachers have no contract, and no tenure, thereby being much easier to get rid of. If this had been a tenured teacher I suspect she would have been suspended with or with out pay pending further review. Teacher's unions are much more active in any allegations against a tenured teacher so the schools action would have taken longer.
I have no idea what this student's long term plans are, but I would hope he eventually pursues legal action for civil damages in regards to this assault.
I think this was as much a men's activism issue as anything, or do you think it is not significant that females feel they are free to assualt men in public without repercussions? I was at a political rally where a female elbowed her way in front of me and blocked my sign. In fact, it was a strategy that was being used, and I was not the only man who was being treated this way. Given the present laws and enforcement of laws I'm actually surprised this woman didn't get away with her behavior.
There's No Excuse, Unless... here
What can women do? here
Battering Females Should Not Be Sheltered here
Ray
Please do not scroll up the page of linked item(s). All the info I'm trying to convey is as the page comes up.
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I know it's late in the thread, and no one may read this ... but I gotta post it.
I never noticed this before. It never went "click". Read the following from the article:
Fort Lewis College student Mark O'Donnell said he was showing people his College Republicans sweatshirt, which said "Work for us now ... or work for us later," when Maria Spero kicked him.
I gotta wonder, and I admit it's speculation .... did his shirt say: College Republicans?
I mean, the guy was obviously of the right age, most sweatshirts from [group A] say [GROUP A] (like the swim team, or Drama Club) and THEN have a slogan.
I would LOVE to see the picture of that sweatshirt.
It makes me wonder if she knew, but just didn't care. And if she did know, and didn't care ...
My speculation is that she felt IMMUNE from consequences (or hoping to bait him into hitting her - "poor wittle victim") as a woman, a faculty member, and a liberal.
Give it some thought.
Steven
Guerilla Gender Warfare is just Hate Speech in polite text
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