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UNH Student Evicted From Dorm for Posting Flyer That Insulted Women
posted by Scott on 04:24 PM October 29th, 2004
Education UNH continues its administrative assault on men. A male sophomore student, Timothy Garneau, posted a flyer in his dorm hall suggesting that female students could lose the "freshman fifteen" by taking the stairs instead of the elevator if they only live a few floors up. The offensive (and admittedly tasteless) flyer was removed within two hours and the student promptly found guilty of violating policies on affirmative action, harassment and disorderly conduct. He was evicted from his dorm and now lives out of his car. The Foundation for Individual Rights in Education is defending him.

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Awe, The Poor Fat Feminazis..... (Score:1)
by thea on 04:43 PM October 29th, 2004 EST (#1)
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...FUCK 'EM!!! I can't believe what UNH has been doing. Christ, are they that hateful to the Male Species?!!! I guess so.

UNH is in the pocket of the Feminazi Reich who seeks to turn every academia into a literal Orwellian society. Big Sister is EVERYWHERE!!!

So the poster encouraged exercising away that freshmen fifteen (thank god I didn't get it, I still have my flat tummy, hooray for me), obesity is on the rise in this country, what's wrong with encouraging physical fitness? I exercise everyday and don't stuff my face with fatty foods, and look, I actually weigh less than I did when I came here. I look great!

The chicks at UNH are all probably super-cellulite accumulative, corpulent asses with the typical hairy legs, hairy armpits, and hairy upper lips because they're trying to make a "statement" against the so called Patriarchal controlled aesthetic media.

The guy was just encouraging them to put down all of that tofu and carbohydrate-staturated salads, and get up off of their fat asses and exercise and eat some red meat!
*Ms.Thea the Pre-Law Major, Pro-Gender Egalitarian, and Pro-Reproductive Rights Activist*
Re:Awe, The Poor Fat Feminazis..... (Score:1)
by MAUS on 09:03 AM October 30th, 2004 EST (#5)
(User #1582 Info)
"the so called Patriarchal aesthetic media "

I used to do glamour photography before it became yet another minefield of feminist "gotcha", and let me assure all readers of this forum, apparel fashion and cosmetic warpaint ( no offence intended Thundercloud)are the domain of women and gay men.

Helen Gurley Brown once said:

"Anyone who thinks top models are anorexic can pay the catering bill from my next fashion show "

Here are two zingers I heard from the lips of professional models:

"Anyone who thinks my good looks are the result of an eating disorder can kiss my firm tight cellulite free butt when it's still sweaty from me working out "

and I love this one:

"How many calories in a sour grape?"
Re:Awe, The Poor Fat Feminazis..... (Score:0)
by Anonymous User on 02:18 PM October 30th, 2004 EST (#9)
No offence taken, Maus!
It's very appropriate.

  Thundercloud.
  "Hoka hey!"
Atkins kills (Score:0)
by Anonymous User on 11:31 PM October 31st, 2004 EST (#23)
Limiting one's diet to one thing, like meat, can cause seemingly miraculous weight loss. Let us look at why. In the case of the Atkins diet, your body goes into a sort of starvation when you do not eat carbohydrates. With no carbs to burn, the body dips into its fat supply for energy. This causes a lot of stress to certain organs, which can cause severe health problems, to say nothing of the dramatic increase in risk to heart health. In the short term, It causes the metabolism to slow down so that carbs are burned more slowly and are more likely to become fat. This hardly matters when you are on the diet, because the body is so starved for them that they are all consumed anyway. However, should a person use Atkins to lose a few quick pounds and then go off the diet, he or she is likely to ballon into someone even fatter than before the diet.
      The key to a healthy body has always been a balanced diet. In our society we eat way too much candy and white bread, but the other extreme is no better.
What BS! (Score:2)
by TLE on 06:52 PM October 29th, 2004 EST (#2)
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How absurd! The cartoon is not even offensive. Is UNH going to scour the girls' dorms too? I doubt that! And what is this BS about it violating affirmative action? First of all, I see no relationship to AA at all, and second, since when is it against the law to criticize AA? Since when can you get thrown out of your dwelling for suggesting that women are overweight? In any case, AA is not a right, it's a program that holds certain people to a lower standard than others in order to call them equal. I'm glad there's a group like FIRE to help this guy. If I lived near the UNH campus, I'd put him up in my house!
Posters/Flyers that WOULD be acceptable to UNH (Score:1)
by LSBeene on 09:51 PM October 29th, 2004 EST (#3)
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The following posters (probably) WOULD be acceptable to UNH's "educated and diversity oriented" staff:

"Did you know that 1 in 4 women is raped while in college? See that boy looking at you? He's a potential rapist, and you're a potential victim.

The implied message is that ALL men are "potential rapists"

or

"The Patriarchial society we live in demean you? Are you feeling 'put upon'? It's not in your head! If you feel that way, it's the truth! Women have been oppressed since the beginning. Learn how to assert yourself and take control! Speak your mind! Kick, claw, spit, and scream if you have to ... it's your right"

Implying ALL men are "in on it", that a vague "feeling" is valid due to it's existance, and can ANYONE HERE imagine how a flyer telling men to "kick, claw, spit, and scream" to get their way would be received?

'Nuff said.

I think my point is made.

Double standards imply an aristocracy .... but, maybe that's just me.

Steven
Guerilla Gender Warfare is just Hate Speech in polite text
Re:Posters/Flyers that WOULD be acceptable to UNH (Score:0)
by Anonymous User on 02:22 PM October 30th, 2004 EST (#10)
Another poster that I'm CERTAIN would be acceptable would be one of a woman kicking a man in the balls.

  Thundercloud.
  "Hoka hey!"
Re:Posters/Flyers that WOULD be acceptable to UNH (Score:0)
by Anonymous User on 08:12 AM October 31st, 2004 EST (#16)
I wonder what would have happened if the flyer said "women are stupid , throw rocks at them!". I reckon he would probably have been hanged, drawn and quartered.
Hotspur
Contrast this to my University experience (Score:2)
by mens_issues on 10:03 PM October 29th, 2004 EST (#4)
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Back in 1983 I was a third-year student at Auckland University in New Zealand. That particular year they had the most hateful anti-male feminist editor they could find in charge of the University newspaper (it was called CRACCUM - I know, stupid name). I still remember the bitch's name - Louise Rafkin. She sometimes printed anti-male poems from bizarro feminists. One poem I recall was something like:

Boys fight wars
Boys die in wars
I don't want to be a boy
I don't want a tail in front ...

Another went something like:

Male masturbator at the window
I called the policeman
He could kill me with his nightstick ...

Another article discussed inner city women who fantasized about killing their young sons before they became abusive men. Some guy wrote that this was distressing to him. Someone else replied that he was just being paranoid.

In my second year at that University I wrote a letter to the editor. This letter was critical of feminists. I signed the letter "Not ashamed to be a male." Some guy wrote a nasty reply to th effect of "how dare I write this" when women were just trying to find their way, and how my "patronizing platitudes" were no good. He also wrote "Why aren't you ashamed to be a male?" What a jerk!

I started out at that University trying to have an open mind toward feminism. By the end of the first year I hated the radfems. You can probably see why. It was a hostile environment for young men.

And these silly bitches at UNH can't even handle a flyer that was a lot milder than what us guys endured at that University.

Steve

"Challenging feminism since the 1980s"


Re:Contrast this to my University experience (Score:0)
by Anonymous User on 09:57 AM October 30th, 2004 EST (#7)
You may find this to be a bit off topic, but one day when I was headed to one of my classes, I saw a girl wearing a T-shirt saying:

"I ran in to my ex-boyfreind yesterday...
So I backed up and ran in to him again."

A few hours later, that same girl was complaining about offensive beer commercials (what a hypocrite).

The funny thing is that episodes like these are mistakenly construed to be equality. We should all ask ourselves. Is it really equality for a young man to be kicked out of his dorm just for posting a flyer about exercise (when the majority of Americans are obese)? Is it really equality to vote for a candidate just because she's a woman?

We should bring back a real vision of equality.
Re:Contrast this to my University experience (Score:0)
by Anonymous User on 02:29 PM October 30th, 2004 EST (#11)
I have also seen women wearing anti-male 'T'shirts.
I've seen some that say things like; "BOYS ARE GREAT EVERY GIRL SHOULD OWN ONE!" or; "BOYS MAKE GOOD PETS.
Imagine if the word boy was substituted with "NIGGERS, or something.
Yeah, we'd all have a good laugh, huh?

(Last season on the TV show "BIG BROTHER" I saw one of the girls on the show (Jun Song) wear BOTH versions of these shirts.)

  Thundercloud.
  "Hoka hey!"
Re:Contrast this to my University experience (Score:0)
by Anonymous User on 12:21 PM October 31st, 2004 EST (#18)
"You may find this to be a bit off topic, but one day when I was headed to one of my classes, I saw a girl wearing a T-shirt saying:

"I ran in to my ex-boyfreind yesterday...
So I backed up and ran in to him again."


That's a bad one inasmuch as it advocates violences against males. Where is zero tolerance of violence for a shirt like that? She should be expelled, arrested and prosecuted. It would be great to have a picture of that shirt, although that may not be possible, and take it to the campus Ombudsperson or the campus Diverstiy Officer (EEOC) and file a formal complaint. If no sucess on campus you could always call the EEOC, and ask where you can complain about a sexist and hostile environment.

I'm not a lawyer, but if they play lame, you might want to explore suing the school, college, university, etc.

These places are very averse to any negative publicity so the news media is also a possibility, although they are very biased against males. I believe you could also picket the place without their sayso as long as you stay on public property (free speech), but check on that too.

Doing nothing against these kinds of abuses is a form of acceptance of these kinds of abuses. Talking about it on Mensactivism is a good start, but not the ultimate means to ending the abuses.

Don't worry if you miss a chance to do something about the abuses men are facing today. I can almost gaurantee you'll have plenty of other opportunities.

In as much as most of the people who write in here have a computer I would highly recommend a digital camera as a next "tool" of activism to document anti-male "events" that you run into in the darnedest places. A small one like the Olympus works great here , but the Cannon Elph is probably a little better here .

Public officals don't like to be videotaped, but if you can afford a digital videocam, most public speaking engagements are tapeable. Politicans say the darnedest things, especially when you ask them questions about men's issues. With a digital videocam, later you can make DVD's and send them "places."

Just having the camera(s) on you has a very noticeable impact on people. Those of you who have taken a camera to a public protest or other public event, and filmed or photographed police or politicians know what I'm talking about it.

Have fun, but know the law. You can always ask police and your elected officals about the laws.

Sincerely, Ray

Don't waste time just sue (Score:1)
by MAUS on 09:56 AM October 30th, 2004 EST (#6)
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Having encountered the sort of militant mindlessness that this young man is going through my advice to him is skip over all of the stages of pleading for reason...reason went right out the window when feminazis took the helm...go straight to the legal showdown and get some evil patriarchal (and Quizling feminazi turncoats who will betray their doctrinal ideals for a buck) legal types to read them the riot act.( I made that parenthetical remark because the government of Canada paid one of the most notorious feminazi lawyers in Canada eight figures to fight against the pay equity suit it's own female employees initiated....she has not been invited to be a keynote speaker at any Women's Day rallies since)

The be a nice guy and try to reconcile approach will only result in him becomming the poster child of politically corrected remorse and encourage the feminazi gauleiters to do more of the same sort of enforcement.
Re: Another Dictatorship of Virtue Exposed! (Score:2)
by Roy on 12:11 PM October 30th, 2004 EST (#8)
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It’s fascinating that after thirty years of aggressive feminist-led movements to enforce "multiculturalism, inclusion, and diversity" on our nation’s campuses, the majority of colleges have become less politically tolerant, less ideologically diverse, and less philosophically respectful of individual expression.

The guardians of First Amendment rights at FIRE are doing heroic work by exposing the hypocrisy at UNH and by extension, putting a spotlight on the vast academic bureaucracies of intolerance and political correctness.

(The "diversity nazis" are second only to the domestic violence gender-fascists in having successfully bilked the public of billions of taxpayer dollars.)

In his excellent book "Dictatorship of Virtue," author Richard Bernstein traces how the diversity movement, which started out as a noble quest to create a sensibility to openness to cultural differences in America, is now deformed into a corrupt "bureaucracy of the unquestionably good ... a veritably messianic political program ... that does not take kindly to true difference."


"It's a terrible thing ... living in fear." - Roy: hunted replicant, Blade Runner
Re: Another Dictatorship of Virtue Exposed! (Score:0)
by Anonymous User on 02:55 PM October 30th, 2004 EST (#12)
In the early days of political correctness, I was all for it.
I thought it would be great that Whites, Blacks, and others would be taught tolerance for people of my ethnicity. (American Indians)
Then as time went on I began to realize that it was not being "enforced" equaly. In other words, While I was being told that other races MUST respect MY race, it was perfectly acceptable for me to DIS-respect people of other races. Especialy Whites. AND It was STILL perfectly acceptable to hate Indians, by ALL races.
Then, still later I realized that political correctness was not being used to foster tolerance of ALL people. It was reserved STRICTLY for Blacks, Women, and homosexuals.
At the same time Blacks, women, and gays were being told to disrespect, even hate all Whites, straights, Christians, and MALES (regardless of ethnicity) You could also still hate Indians and Asians (they don't count, appearantly.) and even at times it is okay to hate Jews.
It wasn't long before i saw political correctness for what it was, and that is just ANOTHER hate movement.
We have enough of those, as it is.
I stand against ALL bigotry! ALL of it. But to this day I am still called an "Indian sell out" because I "stand up for the white man".
Yes I DO stand up for the white man. I also will stand up for the Black man, the Yellow man, the red man, the post man, the fire man, the ice cream man, the snow man, the gingerbread man, the boogey man, the muffin man and Popeye the sailor man! I will stand up for ALL men. I will stand up for ANY human being (or animal) that is being wronged, regardless of race, color, gender, or what ever. That is what we as Cherokees are taught to do.
I think that is what the whole men's movement, it's self, is all about. That is why I became a men's activist. I had to fight against the one thing that I hoped would bring us all together as one, at last. And that is political correctness. Instead of bringing us closer together as human beings, it is tearing us apart, piriod.

  Thundercloud.
  "Hoka hey!"

  Thundercloud.
  "Hoka hey!"
Re: Another Dictatorship of Virtue Exposed! (Score:2)
by Roy on 07:00 PM October 30th, 2004 EST (#15)
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Hey T-Cloud,

I can relate to your story.

I also got suckered into the feminist"diversity" cause way back in the day as a student at a Big Ten U.

A lot of men thought that by supporting women's rights we were advancing true equality of the sexes.

As you've noted, we were bamboozled. (Only gotta look in the mirror to find the "chump" in this scam.)

It was never about real equality. It was about a zero-sum contest to disempower men.

Today we are living it.

Good news is, most men now recognize the "trick or treat" con that women played on us.

I used to live in a small Caribbean island, where men had a saying .... "Gal, ONE TIME WIT DAT!"

Translated -- "You'll never fool me again!"


"It's a terrible thing ... living in fear." - Roy: hunted replicant, Blade Runner
Re: Another Dictatorship of Virtue Exposed! (Score:1)
by Tom on 08:22 AM October 31st, 2004 EST (#17)
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Thundercloud said:
    "Yes I DO stand up for the white man. I also will stand up for the Black man, the Yellow man, the red man, the post man, the fire man, the ice cream man, the snow man, the gingerbread man, the boogey man, the muffin man and Popeye the sailor man! I will stand up for ALL men. I will stand up for ANY human being (or animal) that is being wronged, regardless of race, color, gender, or what ever. That is what we as Cherokees are taught to do."


Precisely! Beautifully said TC.


Do we have True Equality?
Re: Another Dictatorship of Virtue Exposed! (Score:0)
by Anonymous User on 01:15 PM October 31st, 2004 EST (#19)
Oh, Thank you, Tom.
Although I don't really know why I signed my name TWICE!
What was I on??

  Thundercloud.
  "Hoka hey!"

There. I signed it only once
this time.
Re: Another Dictatorship of Virtue Exposed! (Score:1)
by Tom on 06:28 AM November 3rd, 2004 EST (#26)
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I have seen it many times, more than one thundercloud in the sky. It's a blessing. Not to worry. ;>)
Do we have True Equality?
Re: Another Dictatorship of Virtue Exposed! (Score:1)
by Ragtime on 06:48 PM October 31st, 2004 EST (#22)
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Thundercloud wrote: "I stand against ALL bigotry! ALL of it. But to this day I am still called an "Indian sell out" because I "stand up for the white man". Yes I DO stand up for the white man. I also will stand up for the Black man, the Yellow man, the red man, the post man, the fire man, the ice cream man, the snow man, the gingerbread man, the boogey man, the muffin man and Popeye the sailor man! I will stand up for ALL men. I will stand up for ANY human being (or animal) that is being wronged, regardless of race, color, gender, or what ever"

Whee Haw! Damn straight, Thundercloud. Well said, Brother.

Ragtime

The Uppity Wallet

The opinions expressed above are my own, but you're welcome to adopt them.

Re: Another Dictatorship of Virtue Exposed! (Score:1)
by MAUS on 04:03 PM November 1st, 2004 EST (#24)
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It was often reported in history that war captives and white children found orphaned by the Chyenne were so well treated, that they would resist being brought back to their own relatives, often kicking and screaming.

What does that say about a culture that the people who we arbitraily waged war on would treat our children and those who had been taken captive that much better than we treat each other.

Thundercloud you come out here every night and in a meek, courageous, salt-of-the-earth sort of way you appeal for reason and against biggotry. If I had an eagle whistle I would blow it in your honour, then I would give it to you as a token of being a more worthy owner.
universities are a joke (Score:0)
by Anonymous User on 03:06 PM October 30th, 2004 EST (#13)
Remember the vicious anti-male article in the Cornell Sun?
See /article.pl?sid=04/09/1 5/2250228&mode=threaded

What happened to the author of that? Well, the university dumbocrats made her into a hero, and considered funding more fembot male-hating indoctrination classes.

Then this guy suggests that female students get more exercise. The education dumbocrats swing into full persecution mode:

But on Oct. 8, the Judicial Affairs Office at the university found Garneau guilty of all charges, sentenced him to immediate expulsion from student housing and put him on probation through May 30, 2006.

He was also required to meet with a counselor to discuss his actions, write a 3,000-word reflection paper about the session and write a letter of apology to residents of Stokes Hall.


They seem to have forgotten to require him to wear a dunce cap and attend 10 weeks of self-criticism sessions. How idiotic!

Well, at least that man is getting a real education about the world today.
...sore on the eyes (Score:0)
by Anonymous User on 04:17 PM October 30th, 2004 EST (#14)
I think the "sore on the eyes" comment might be their biggest complaint, but also the bathing suit could be deemed offensive under sexual harassment law that is, let's face it, Heterophobic hate.

If you were to walk onto a college campus I know, and go to a women's center billboard in one of the buildings you would read, "If men could get pregnant abortion would be a sacrament," and "What can men do to stop their violence agianst women?"

Why is that kind of misandrist, prejudiced stereotyping permitted for women???
Re:...sore on the eyes (Score:0)
by Anonymous User on 01:31 PM October 31st, 2004 EST (#20)
Well, by feminist "logic" it is okay for women to hate harm and even kill men because men are ALL bad and evil, and ALL men oppress women.
Therefore it is okay even incouraged for women to be man-haters.
But also by that logic then as an Indian I have some kind of God given right to hate ALL white people. Even though few or no white people, living today, have any thing to do with what happened to my people in the past.
SOME white people still have a big problem with Indians, but frankly there are ALOT of people of all different races that have a problem with Indians. But not ALL people of ALL races have a problem with us.
The ones that do, I have no time for. They are ignorant and don't WANT to see the truth. The ones that DON'T have a problem with us are the ones I work with because I know that together we can make the world better for ALL PEOPLE.
So the feminist "logic" falls flat on it's face.
It is weighed down by it's own hypocrisy. That is why, although it will take some time, I beleive that feminism, eventually WILL fall. It HAS to, by it's very nature.
I have seen few hate-groups that DON'T eventually fall under their own weight of lies, hypocrisy and hunger for power.
It will happen to them, eventually. It is their destiny.

  Thundercloud.
  "Hoka hey!"
Re:...sore on the eyes (Score:0)
by Anonymous User on 01:33 PM October 31st, 2004 EST (#21)
Oh, I forgot to mention this Cherokee saying, which fits the situation of the fall of feminism. The feminists should learn this saying...;

  "The truth will stay with you.
    The lies will catch up to you...!"

  Thundercloud.
  "Hoka hey!"
Re:...sore on the eyes (Score:0)
by Anonymous User on 09:25 PM November 1st, 2004 EST (#25)
"I beleive that feminism, eventually WILL fall. It HAS to, by it's very nature. I have seen few hate-groups that DON'T eventually fall under their own weight of lies, hypocrisy and hunger for power."

I sure hope you're right. Can we give it a little push when we see it start to lean, and help it along? I'll be more than happy to yell, timber!

Sincerely, Ray
Official Gov. Doc. talks about "love handles" (Score:0)
by Anonymous User on 08:16 AM November 3rd, 2004 EST (#27)
UNH is UnAmerican, misandrist and hetrophobic to do what it has done in this case. I just saw one of the U.S. Government approved (Health & HUman Services) commercials, mentioned in the paragraph below, in Los Angeles on CBS early morning news.

"The Healthy Lifestyles & Disease Prevention initiative -- which includes multi-media public service advertisements (PSAs) and a new interactive Web site -- here -- encourages Americans to make small activity and dietary changes, such as using stairs instead of an elevator (emphasis mine), or taking a walk instead of watching television.

The PSAs were developed for HHS in cooperation with the Ad Council. Designed for all media, they provide tongue-in-cheek examples of the power of small steps for long-term, sustained weight control and good health. The PSAs, created pro bono by New York agency McCann Erickson through the Ad Council, show typical Americans finding "love handles," (emphasisi mine) double chins, and other unwanted body parts in public places, apparently "lost" as their neighbors used the stairs instead of the escalator, got active at the beach or walked to the office. The PSAs, available at here , will run and air in advertising time and space that is donated by the media."

I would suspect UNH would find someone using the term "love handles" in reference to weight loss in females to be equally as offensive, or worse, than the alleged malfeasant flyer, but the U.S. government doesn't appear to be as misandrist as UNH.

Sincerely, Ray

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