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by Anonymous User on 04:18 PM October 29th, 2004 EST (#1)
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Too bad it was published years ago, and very little has changed. Why?
misleading statistics are a deliberate fund raising tactic for women's shelters. The shelter movement almost never mentions scientific studies. This misuse of distorted police statistics to push a "female victims" agenda is widespread and very misleading. Gender activists have high jacked the legitimate issue of family violence and turned it into "America’s Most Successful Fundraising Fraud".
This continues because so many people are too spineless to confront the hate-mongering.
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"This continues because so many people are too spineless to confront the hate-mongering."
It might be gradually changing. I see in the media evidence of what appears to be a growing public acknowledgment of female perpetrated partner and family violence. (Even though more effort is put into making excuses for violent women.) Academia continues to be the stronghold and will probably be the last "lace curtain" institution to come around.
I know it's been mentioned by others in earlier posts, but I wanted to draw attention to Thomas James' 2003 book "Domestic Violence - The 12 Things You Aren't Supposed to Know." Lots of good info and well researched.
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by Anonymous User on 08:45 AM October 30th, 2004 EST (#3)
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"I know it's been mentioned by others in earlier posts, but I wanted to draw attention to Thomas James' 2003 book "Domestic Violence - The 12 Things You Aren't Supposed to Know." Lots of good info and well researched."
Yes, that is a fabulous book, and here is another interesting book I just started reading here .
Below is a short book review, starting with a quote from the introduction of the book,
"Suppose a patriarchal state placed millions of women into prison camps. The male guards in these prisons shaved the women's heads, stripped them of their clothes, and murdered most of them. Those women who were not murdered were starved, beaten, raped, and subjected to the most inhumane and humiliating treatment. Wouldn't this be an appalling and clear case of sexism?
Not necessarily. This scenario occurred in Nazi Germany, but the Nazis imprisoned and killed millions of men as well. The Nazis were mostly men, but they chose their victims on the basis of ethnicity and politics, not gender. Yet, focusing on the male perpetrators and female victims and ignoring the male victims, the scenario appears to be an example of sexism.
This same selective focus characterizes current scholarly and popular discussions of violence against women (emphasis mine). Those discussions are dominated by a feminist approach that attributes violence against women to sexism."
(He then cites 14 scholarly studies supporting that last sentence)
Being a bibliophile I must add that the book is beautifully bound in a very nice cover. More importantly, from a resource perspective, it is published by the American Psychological Association, Washington, D.C. Their name is at the bottom of the Title page and their logo is prominently displayed on the back cover flap. It only took a quick browse to see that this is one of those "scholarly works" that has made the effort to back up everything alleged with extensive studies/documentation. The book is a little pricey, but when I saw the book, it did not appear to me to be overpriced at all.
Lastly, in a nutshell, it appears to me that the gist of the book is to argue that we should look at violence more in it's overall context and not in it's gender feminist ideological context (the feminist model).
Okay, here is one last quote from the book making that point,
"At present the study of causes of violence is theory laden and data deprived. My purpose in this book is to reorient the field. I challenge the conventional wisdom that there is an epidemic of violence against women in this country that is hidden from public view. I challenge the widely held notions that these acts are committed by sexist offenders and tolerated by a sexist society. I propose a reintegration of the study of violence against women into the general study of violence."
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by Anonymous User on 03:13 AM October 31st, 2004 EST (#4)
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Aside from the wrongful use of police statistics, the worst problem I see with mainstream discussion about domestic violence is its failure to distinguish between violence emerging from passion and violence used as a tool of control. I have read many articles linked by this site and have seen consistent statistics showing the female perpetration of domestic violence greater than or equal to that of men. However, I have seen no statistics, either scientific or fem-biased that showed the comparative rates of violence motivated by the cold motive of dominion. Though that type of domestic violence most probably represents a small minority of all dv cases, it is by far the worst sort (except for that that results in death), and unfortunately the mainstream understanding of the issue has generalized this type to all cases.
It would ease my mind tremendously to have this cleared up.
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by Anonymous User on 11:26 AM October 31st, 2004 EST (#5)
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"Aside from the wrongful use of police statistics, the worst problem I see with mainstream discussion about domestic violence is its failure to distinguish between violence emerging from passion and violence used as a tool of control"
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On page 32 of DOMESTIC VIOLENCE The Twelve Things You Aren't Supposed to Know About Domestic Violence by Thomas B. James, J.D. he says,
The Straus and Gelles studies showed 54.8% of the severe - not the mild, the severe varieties of domestic spousal abuse are committed by a wife, not a husband.191 Specifically Straus and Gelles found that women are at least as likely as men to commit acts of domestic violence at every level of severity.192 The Straus and Gelles findings have been confirmed by other researchers. Arias, Samios, and O'Leary found that a greater percentage of women engaged in severe physical aggression against a dating partner of the opposite sex than did men.193 A study of 562 married couples in Calgary, Canada uncovered twice as much wife-to-husband as husband-to-wife severe violence (10.7% as compared to 4.8%)194 A U.K. study of people who have been victimized by women found that when a man is the victim, the kind of injury inflicted is more severe than when a woman is the victim.195 An examination of data from the International Social Science Survey/Australia reveals that women inflict serious injuries at least as frequently as men do in domestic violence incidents; in fact, 1.8% of men's as compared to 1.2% of women's injuries, required first aid; and 1.5% of men's injuries required treatment, as compared to 1.2% of women's injuries."196
This is only about 1/3 of the info that Tom James lists on this so if you want to see the rest get the book here , and no I do not get any cut of the profits for plugging his book.
Given the propaganda that has come out the radical/gender feminist domestic violence advocacy groups, including the likes of Sheila Kuehl, State Senator, CA (Super Bowl Sunday Myth) the one thing that is abundantly clear is that they have been lying through their teeth about male victims of domestic violence for a long time.
It appears it's Halloween, everyday for male victims of domestic violence. Therefore, #1 here and #2 here and #3 Male Victims are Wimps! (not really) I Want My Mummy! (not really)
Ray
Please do not scroll up the page of the linked item(s). All the info I'm trying to convey is as the page initially comes up.
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by Anonymous User on 03:47 PM October 31st, 2004 EST (#6)
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Yes, yes.. physically severe injuries.. I knew that already. I was talking about a pattern of violence used to dominate one's partner.
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by Anonymous User on 06:06 PM October 31st, 2004 EST (#7)
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For those of you who don't believe it to be so, stupidity also plays an instrumental role in all of this. The majority of feminists involved in the issue will not do the research necessary to make an informed opinion, so they take the half-assed approach and rely on misleading police statistics or some that they just made up.
If you ask me Feminists not only choose to remain ignorant, but they also take pride in their own ignorance. If they actually bothered to do their own research and come to informed conclusions, they would learn who the real victims are (men) and feminism would not be needed.
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by Anonymous User on 08:14 PM October 31st, 2004 EST (#8)
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"The majority of feminists involved in the issue will not do the research necessary to make an informed opinion, so they take the half-assed approach and rely on misleading police statistics or some that they just made up.
If you ask me Feminists not only choose to remain ignorant, but they also take pride in their own ignorance."
It doesn't get any crazier than feminist thought. There is a famous feminist book called "Women's Ways of Knowing" here .
Women's Studies literally teaches that Science, Math, and logic are patriarchal tools of oppression used by men to subordinate women and that women have a special knowledge that is superior to men. If women get together and tell stories in a circle, in a group, they establish (antecdotal evidence) and use that to pass laws and policies in government.
I know I didn't believe it the first time I heard it either but both Patai and Hoff Sommers talk about it in their books, Professing Feminism - here and Who Stole Feminism - here.
Professing feminism is the 2nd best book I've read since becoming a men's activist, The Myth of Male Power still being the best. Professing feminism illucidates the insanity, the stupidity, the illogic that is radical/gender feminism and shows clearly how it all begins in women's studies classes in colleges across America.
Ray
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