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by Anonymous User on 01:02 PM October 4th, 2004 EST (#1)
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I was at Wells College in 1994 for a Glee Club event. I have no problem with all female colleges.
I just don't understand the issue with all male colleges like The Citadel and Virginia Military Institute.
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I just don't understand the issue with all male colleges like The Citadel and Virginia Military Institute.
For feminists, the issue is that men can't or should not be allowed to have all-male institutions, generally speaking, tax=payer supported or otherwise. However it is not just OK in their minds but imperative that women have all-female institutions, again, preferably not just taxpayer-supported but fully-funded.
Not only do feminists insist on a double-standard but insist everyone agree with it as well. Feminism is not about equality. It's about the institutionalized superiority of women over men, and then some, with men largely paying for it both financially and personally. Feminism is about placing men into the service more or less inescapably of women and insisting we accept it happily, too. This is why it is not a question of doctrine or fairness that requires men to fight for their rights as human beings against feminists, though it is that as well - fundamentally for men, it's a matter of survival, and some semblance of freedom within that context.
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Students papered the hallways inside Macmillan Hall with signs that read: "Coeducation Silences Women"…
Coeducation Silences Women?!?! We are to believe that total exclusion of men is necessary for women to be “equal”. Very convenient. Equal to whom? Nobody’s asking.
Unfortunately this is the kind of stuff that makes sense in sick hateful minds. Statements like this couldn’t be more transparent and are symbolic of the unquestioned assumption of female victimization that dominates feminism.
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by Anonymous User on 03:12 PM October 4th, 2004 EST (#5)
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I seem to remember the Citadel, claimed that they wanted to up hold tradition by not admitting Shannon Faulkner, some years ago.
The feminists said it didn't fly.
Funny, now the EXACT SAME argument is now being used to exclude males from wells college and now, it IS supposed to fly.
No shocker here. Just more feminist hypocricy.
I don't care if there are all male OR all female schools. No one should.
In fact I'm all for both.
But evidently the feminists are only for ONE but not the OTHER, and want to call it "equality".
How typical...,
Oh, by the way, Shannon Faulkner dropped out at the Citadel after not even ONE DAY.
Thundercloud.
"Hoka hey!"
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by Anonymous User on 03:39 PM October 4th, 2004 EST (#8)
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"Coeducation Silences Women?!?!"
Hogwash, yet the truth remains that women's studies and the radical/gender feminist agenda seeks to silence all opposition to its agenda. Look no further than SB1234 by Sheila Kuehl to see the truth in that claim.
Wouldn't it be wonderful if women's studies departments openly challenged: Warren Farrell, Glenn Sacks, Marc Angelucci, etc. to come on campus and debate them, but they don't. They don't even want them or any other masculinists to speak the truth anywhere, hence SB 1234. It is not men who are silencing women. It is radical/gender feminists, women's studies programs, women's commissions, etc. who have tyrannized society with their indefensible hate agenda. They want their indoctrination camps (college classrooms) to be unassailable by anything as threatening as the truth. They don't even want an opposing viewpoint to be permitted. That is why they work tirelessly to eliminate all academic freedom on college campuses.
For the truth to be valid it must stand on its own merits, its own legs, against the refutation of its critics or it is not valid. Liars don't want to be challenged with the facts. It reveals their lies.
As for the all women's colleges, since we are Title IXing the heck out of all male programs and colleges, it is only fair that women's colleges be subject to the same requirements. Women are not the victims they purport to be. Women's colleges should be required to eliminate programs where they cannot get an equal number of men commiserate with the enrollment. To bad they don't make it commiserate with the actual population so we could see how under-represented men have become on college campuses.
Chirstine Stolba and another author have written a book refuting the radical/gender feminist "wage gap myth" and Warren Farrell has a new book out doing the same. Women have valid issues, and so do men, but the dishonesty and outright fraud that has been the trademark of the radical/gender feminist agenda is going to end.
The harder radical/gender feminists try to oppress men to free women, the greater they will fail. The cost of tragedies created by them, measured in innocent human lives, is what I find most despicable about radical/gender feminism.
Sure let them speak there mind, but let them be accountable for what they say, and make them prove the propaganda they have so freely been allowed to preach for decades (at taxpayer expense) from the lecterns in our colleges.
Ray
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by Anonymous User on 02:43 PM October 5th, 2004 EST (#12)
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Could someone summerize?
Steven
Guerilla Gender Warfare is just Hate Speech in polite text
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I am not familiar with US laws, but as far as I understand , according to SB 1234 it is not allowed to criticize feminism. Please correct me if I am wrong.
Bert
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Fighting for men's rights is fighting for children's and women's right's as well.
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I’m not an expert but SB1234 is a California bill that expands hate crime legislation. It includes things like:
no person, whether or not acting under color of law, shall by force or threat of force, willfully injure, intimidate, interfere with, oppress, or threaten any other person in the free exercise or enjoyment of any right or privilege secured to him or her by the Constitution or laws of this state… (Included in existing law)
(Vague references like intimidate, interfere with, oppress)
"Race, religious creed, color, national origin, ancestry,
physical disability, mental disability, medical condition, marital
status, sex, age, or sexual orientation" includes a perception that
the person has any of those characteristics or that the person is
associated with a person who has, or is perceived to have, any of
those characteristics.
(People “associated with” protected groups are included)
"Association with a person or group with these actual or
perceived characteristics" includes advocacy for, identification
with, or being on the ground owned or rented by, or adjacent to, any
of the following: a community center, educational facility, family,…
(“Association with” includes being an advocate for a protected group)
These are some of the things I found just quickly looking through the text of the bill. Every feminist claims to be an advocate for women who have been victimized and to me it looks like they can claim to be a victim of a hate crime for being “intimidated, interfered with, oppressed, or threatened” as long as they claim to be "associated with" a protected group.
The full text of the bill is at:
http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/pub/bill/sen/sb_1201-125 0/sb_1234_bill_20040922_chaptered.html
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.....the poor dears. They have to *SHARE* the academia with boys?
They have to ease up on their Radical-Feminist-Femininity in order to create a more friendly environment for males?
They have to acknowledge the existence with males and learn to work with them, and treat them *EQUALLY, *HUMAINLY*, and *FAIRLY?*
They have to censor their gender identity in order to accommidate the new male students?
Awe....so so sad. Their little gender identities and gender ideologies will be threatened by those boys. CENSOR-CENSOR!!!! Erosion of the Feministic-Feminine gender identity! Hate-speech! Where are all of the feminist attorneys?!! Oh dear Goddess please help them! (End of Sarcasm)
Tough shit!!!! Now they know what it was like for all of the once respectable Male Academias (ie: The Ivy League was once respectable)when they had to censor and erode the male gender identity.
What goes around comes around, and bites you in the ass. Feminists are finally getting shit stuck back on them. VICTORY!!! But a small one. Oh well.
*Ms.Thea the Pre-Law Major, Pro-Gender Egalitarian, and Pro-Reproductive Rights Activist*
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by Anonymous User on 03:21 PM October 4th, 2004 EST (#6)
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Ah, yes.
But what one of us is NOT grateful for even the SMALL victories...?
Thundercloud.
"Hoka hey!"
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Oh you know I'm grateful Thundercloud. *wink-wink*
*Ms.Thea the Pre-Law Major, Pro-Gender Egalitarian, and Pro-Reproductive Rights Activist*
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I read this article on yahoo news this morning. Before I finished the article I knew exactly why they are starting to admit male students. It's a reason so common to almost anything today, they need the god damn money. Does anyone think it has to do with equality or something like that? Lets be real, in this country today if you are dying in the gutter and you cannot pay to have your ass saved in some fashion, well then tough shit. At best you may have your corpse thrown in a dumpster by the city sanitation dept. Then they will try to bill your estate for their trouble. Welcome the the USA today!
Pete in Nebraska
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by Anonymous User on 04:12 PM October 4th, 2004 EST (#9)
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This story is in the "US National" section. Why do I have this feeling that if the genders were inversed, it would be in the "Oddly Enough" section?
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Would someone force feed the feminists a copy of Brown vs. Topeka Board of Education.
The feminists got what they wanted...to turn nearly every all-male school into a coed institution (or shut it down). Yet, I still hear cries of "women need single sex schools", "women's voices need to be heard, men will dominate the classroom" (which is far from true, there are hardly any men left in the classrooms), etc.
They can have it one way or the other. Either men get single sex schools OR women don't get any.
"This is not equality" / Jeff
"All human laws which contradict God's laws, we are bound in conscience to disobey." George Mason
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"there are hardly any men left in the classrooms"
this is what I find so disconcerting about the male only draft. When it(the draft) starts up again there will be even fewer men left. This really upsets me, I myself have my education but I know a lot of these younger guys do not at this time. I am concerned that many will loose all incentive to pursue higher education if they know they will be drafted during their academic career.
I know this is off topic but as I said it really bothers the hell out of me.
Pete in Nebraska
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as far as i known, unfortunatly wells, like most single sex colleges is private, so brown vs. board of education couldn't apply as that was meant for public schools
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