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by Anonymous User on 03:23 PM September 14th, 2004 EST (#1)
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I hate to side with the feminists, but I've always thought that "page three" IS a bit sexist.
So in a sense, I can understand a little where the feminist are coming from, on this.
I was about to say, however, that if they published a MALE "page three" along with the FEMALE version for women to look at, maybe the feminists would be placated. But I strongly doubt it. Knowing them they would still rail strongly against the Female "page three" but condone the Male version as "art" and "justifiable exploitation" of men. They generaly ARE hypocrits as we well know. ESPECIALY in these matters.
"It's wrong if you do it to a woman, but if you do the exact same thing to a man it is okay." Even "progressive."
There's LOGIC for ya...!
Thundercloud.
"Hoka hey!"
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by Anonymous User on 03:47 PM September 14th, 2004 EST (#2)
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I think they would only be placated if the male was a confirmed homosexual. Something to do with "challenging the heterosexual establishment", probably.
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by Anonymous User on 01:32 PM September 15th, 2004 EST (#4)
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I hadn't thought of that.
But that's VERY possible.
Thundercloud.
"Hoka hey!"
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Brother, I really do have an appreciation of what you are on about and I admire you for being consistently"your own man" in this forum.
Now then, that having been said,I will appeal to your appreciation of culture outside the "white culture" which...like it or not...you cannot honestly say you have not been touched by.
I was within moments of becoming a Christian minister. One of the things that my mentors who were examening me about was the issue of "the shame of nakedness" I pointed out to them that nowhere in the scriptures was "the shame of nakedness" sexual....it was always economic.
An African militant once remarked "before white men came Africans were naked and had dignity....now they wear rags and have none"
I have no problem with what you said, but I remember on another occassion you expressing a longing to wear traditional "flaps".
Funny thing about going to a nude beach.....when you are sitting among like minded people who are naked.....how quickly the whole notion of "the shame of nakedness" becomes absurd.
One of the refugee cultures who live in Canada is a rather odd group called "the Sons of Freedom Dukabors" who were chased out of Russia around the turn of the century.
They frequently had encounters with the Canadian police because of some rather.....non-conformist beliefs they hold.
My favourite anectote about them is the occassion when a Dukabor woman in her sixties was hauled in by the RCMP for working in her garden naked. The arresting officer gave her quite a sanctimonious speach about nakednesss and Christianity. Her response was "young man....if you are still ashamed of your nakedness....what exactly did Jesus restore unto you?"
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::Funny thing about going to a nude beach.....when you are sitting among like minded people who are naked.....how quickly the whole notion of "the shame of nakedness" becomes absurd.::
I understand your point, but a "naked girlie" as a newspaper's daily feature seems a lot more cheesy than people of all ages and genders reclining in the nude.
bg
Men are from EARTH. Women are from EARTH. Deal with it.
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In one way I do Know what you mean...yetI have taken many such photos myself and I have never observed any schackles on the wrists of those photographed. When I did nude photography people frequently asked me how I was able to persuade women to do it.
In reality it is MUCH simpler than sexually seducing them. Women who ARE beautiful like having the flower of their beauty captured by a photographer provided he does it in a tastefull and respectfull way.
Try to imagine a world in which the only way anyone would know what a member of the opposite sex looked like naked was to marry them.
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Ay a meeting of an organization that I will refrain from naming, one of the participants....a three-titted deisel dyke feminazi divorce lawyer...spearheaded a drive to have a policy that all teachers in that organization be prohibitted from having relationships with students ( we are talking full grown full fledged adults here, in fact nobody under thirty). I fought this tooth and nail. Finally my nemesis stuck out her three tits and two cleavages and asserted "I speak for many women here!!!"
I turned to the group and asked "I address this question to the women in this group who she does not speak for.....are you going to let this three-titted deisel dyke feminazi divorce lawyer ram down your throats an edict of who you can or cannot have a relationship with and become your chaparone when that person would certainly fight such control imposed on her tooth and nail? " There was a moment of thunderstruck silence. The seargeant at arms came and escorted me out. Several women left soon after and gave me the thumbs up.
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It DOES sound pretty tacky to me. A newspaper loses almost all of its credibility when it does that.
bg
Men are from EARTH. Women are from EARTH. Deal with it.
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I agree that it's tacky. It's a low-rent tabloid, but what right do we have to ban things because they are tacky?
Feminism=Fascism : Get Wise to the Lies
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by Anonymous User on 12:17 PM September 16th, 2004 EST (#9)
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Yeah.
It's like i was saying, earlier that if they did a "page 3" with a naked guy, for women to "counter balance" the "page 3" girl, I wouldn't care.
Heck the women complaining ought to get some money together and do just that, instead of gripeing about it.
I could be wrong.
Thundercloud.
"Hoka hey!"
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