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by Anonymous User on 09:47 AM August 11th, 2004 EST (#1)
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This is the world we live in. A woman can decide she wants to sell her body for sex. A man decides to pay for her offered service. If caught, the man is humiliated (in this case with billboards) and arrested as a "john" - the woman, just arrested if anything at all. She can always play the "I'm a victim" card and get off usually free from punishment.
More devious is when police departments lure older lonely men into soliciting for sex and they arrest him with an undercover police whore.
At least parts of Europe are honest with their laws relating to sex for money. They do not view sexual desire as criminal like in the states (unless of course the sexual desire belongs to a woman that is).
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There may be a very simple reason for not giving the women's names. It would be advertising.
Cops couldn't do stings as easily if they were advertising all of the *real* prostitutes. No one would attempt to buy services from the fake ones.
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by Anonymous User on 11:07 AM August 11th, 2004 EST (#3)
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Well, only a small percentage of the female prostitutes get arrested in a given area, so publicizing their names would not reveal who the fake ones are. Their names aren't publicized simply because the feminists - who love seeing the men humiliated - wouldn't like it. The whole thing is sick.
Marc
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by Anonymous User on 02:29 PM August 11th, 2004 EST (#6)
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I don`t agree with prostitution,but,what if some guy is down on his luck,depressed,or something?Making a little mistake like that should not subject him to that kind of humiliation.
But then again,if people think men are all that`s evil in the world,then Im sure the humiliating tactics will soon get worse.
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by Anonymous User on 12:07 PM August 11th, 2004 EST (#4)
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I for one believe men are "wired" to spread their seed, and women are not. Women want a strong suitor whose genes will be passed on. This is using our own evolution against us, when society in general can acknoledge this publicly and accept this, men will no longer be seen as evil.
apetr
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"This is using our own evolution against us, when society in general can acknoledge this publicly and accept this, men will no longer be seen as evil."
Men will be seen as evil as long as those who control the teaching of our children through schools and the media see men as evil. Phallophobia, (the fear and hatred of male sexuality), is only one part of it. True, ending phallophobia will be one of our great victories, but until people see the evil that women do as well they won't be able to recognize all of us as equally human.
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Behind the humiliation, which the androphobes (or phallophobes?) enjoy, it's really about power. The reason women in general are so opposed to legalized prostitution is because women lose power when they can no longer hold men in a state of sexual depravity. Men would stop putting up with their shit. The availablility of legalized prostitution would force women to start behaving. Somewhat.
Certainly the feminists who compare pornography and prostitution to slavery understand the power dynamics involved in keeping men submissive to the will of females. As always, they want to punish men and criminalize our sexuality. Just like all my teachers used to do. Bad boys!
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TLE man, do you mean 'sexual deprivation'? When you said that men are deliberately kept in a state of sexual deprivation, you are dead right.
Feminism, is, among other things, an attempt to form a trade organisation to regulate the price of sex. The only bargaining chip that women really have to offer men is access to sex, so they want to retain monopoly control over it, and to set the price as high as possible.
I believe this is the real reason that feminists oppose pornography and prostitution, and complain that female sex workers are betraying the sisterhood. Commercially available sex constitutes an inflationary force in the sexual economy - and competition for middle-class women.
As you say, it's amazing the shit that men will put up with just to get laid occasionally. Have you ever noticed that women don't scream, cry and have tantrums when they deal with each other? They only act like that when they are dealing with men, and they do it because they know it works. The men put up with it because they nurture the faint hope of getting laid again tomorrow, or the day after.
Commercially available sex would bypass all of that. If you could walk down the street, go into a classy place, choose an attractive woman, have sex with her, pay her, and walk away, why would you even bother talking to these shrieking neurotic harpies? You wouldn't. And they know it. Keeping men in a permanent state of sexual deprivation is their only hope. It's either that or start behaving themselves.
The taboo against male masturbation is part of the same thing. A man who masturbates is a 'jerk-off' in North America, a 'wanker' in Britain - in other words, a failure. Masturbation is only acceptable if women do it.
The message from society to men is, if you want to have sex, then you have to jump through the hoops like a good dog.
AngryMan
Get Wise to the Lies
Feminism=Fascism : Get Wise to the Lies
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Feminism, is, among other things, an attempt to form a trade organisation to regulate the price of sex. The only bargaining chip that women really have to offer men is access to sex, so they want to retain monopoly control over it, and to set the price as high as possible.
I remember dealing with multiple feminists in the mid-90's who were basically saying: "We'll do whatever we want and you'll put up with it. Otherwise, you won't get any sex from ANY woman. (especially in the future)"
At the time they were infuriated that I would choose celibacy over their proposed fascist regime. Now it seems that feminists are frightened, horrified, and confused by male celibacy.
An idea I have is to have a counterbalance to Valentine's Day. Pick a month for all single and unattached men to practice celibacy for the entire month. Sure, it'll negatively affect Singles Bars, Strip Clubs, Porno Shops, etc. for a month but we as a group get our consciousness raised and maybe a little media attention.
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Women are not able to provide for themselves all the things that they need. As Camille Paglia said, "If women had been in charge we would still be living in grass huts". For whatever reason, women simply will not invent thngs like international air transport, they will not mine for iron ore, or whatever. They rely on men to provide them with the material things they need. Men cannot reproduce without women. The fact is, despite what feminists may like to pretend, not only do fish need bicycles, but bicycles also need fish.
The only real resource that women have to offer men in exchange for the provision of material goods is the opportunity to reproduce - access to sex. Despite feminists' pretences about the evils of male sexuality, women would be lost without it.
In the 1960s with the advent of safe birth control technology (invented by men) and the appearance of lots of safe new service sector jobs (again largely the product of 'male' capitalism and 'male' technology) women (who had benefited from mass education, implemented by 'male' governments and paid for by male taxpayers) gained a larger set of lifestyle choices (see 'Why Nothing Works', by Marvin Harris). Their response was to say "The price of sex has just gone up"
"We'll do whatever we want and you'll put up with it. Otherwise, you won't get any sex from ANY woman".
These feminists are arrogant enough to attempt to set the price of sex infinitely high. Of course this will never work, and it has negative consequences for the women themselves. Many remain childless until they discover it's too late. The cry that "There are not enough good men around" is the cry of a woman who has priced herself out of the market. You can only choose from the men you actually see around you, and these ones are in the state they're in only because feminism has systematically undermined them. These arrogant middle-class fems who can't find a good enough man have shot themselves in the foot, but they will never admit it.
These advantages have been conferred upon women by men, and they are temporary. There is a Red Queen race going on between men and women (see 'The Red Queen', by Matt Ridley), and the balance will eventually be restored. That's our job.
"At the time they were infuriated that I would choose celibacy over their proposed fascist regime. Now it seems that feminists are frightened, horrified, and confused by male celibacy".
Very deep-seated cultural mechanisms exist to coerce men into playing ball. If you are not sufficiently interested in sex then you are a freak. If you choose celibacy you are a freak. If you choose masturbation you are a loser. If you choose 'vice' then you are a pervert, and you might find your name on a billboard. If you don't want to marry and have kids you're a committment-phobe. If you don't devote your life to your kids you're a dead-beat dad. Men are under a lot of pressure to stick to a very narrow path, a path which is really all about serving women.
Friends of mine are currently having children for the first time, and there is much talk among the women about whether or not so-and-so is a good father. Does he spend time at home, does he help his partner, does he bath the kids. The men are drawn into this, competing with each other saying "I'm a better dad than him, he's a bad father". I cannot imagine the opposite conversation being tolerated. Any discussion of whether or not so-and-so is a good mother would be regarded as unfair. The women would be likely to close ranks and defend each other.
Men need to organise themselves. Refuse to be the sexual and emotional slave of women. Refuse to be manipulated. You do have other choices. You enjoyed masturbation at age thirteen - re-discover it. Use the sex industry. Remain celibate. Retain control over your own money, and your own life.
Feminism=Fascism : Get Wise to the Lies
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by Anonymous User on 12:14 PM August 11th, 2004 EST (#5)
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How about billboards for women making false rape accusations, or women interferring with child visitation. No I don't think so, because there is no worse crime in this world then sticking your penis in something.
apetr
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After a false accusation case in Britain, the judge called for the implementation of a 'false accuser's register' along the lines of the 'sex offenders register', but needless to say, the feminazis started screaming him down. In fact we do need such a register in my view.
Feminism=Fascism : Get Wise to the Lies
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Notice what "johns" are NOT targeted? The ones who use high price call girls and the men in positions of power.
We can't have THAT can we?
How about herpes or AIDS infected prostitutes (both diseases are permanent, one is life threatening). In case anyone thinks I have a prejdice against people with AIDS: I have a close relative with HIV (not yet AIDS), so don't even go there.
This is about male humiliation pure and simple.
Where are the billboards for female crimes? Oh, those are "different" ... got it.
Steven
Guerilla Gender Warfare is just Hate Speech in polite text
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If I lived anywhere near this place, I know what I'd be doing with a can of gasoline and some matches this Friday night.
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Shouldn't Kate Faber's name be on a billboard? I mean she screws you and then tells the cops you raped her. Shouldn't unsuspecting men be warned by some kind of billboard about predatory nutjob females like her who deliberately do this for attention, money or whatever?
And how about all the female child care workers and mothers who have been accused or convicted of child abuse? It is a fact that women commit most child abuse. So wouldn't it be more conducive to procuring a safe environment for children if society knew who these female child abusers are?
What a waste of public money and resources over 2-4 minutes on the average of screwing. There are more important problems that need to be addressed!
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I got a response from Jan Quigley about the billboards, after I sent a message to her.
According to her, the names of women who are convicted of prostitution are regularly printed in the paper, if they're repeat offenders. She apparently believes this evens the score a little. I don't agree, as names in a newspaper don't get the "airplay" that names on a billboard do. If they wanted this to be equal, they should have the johns' names printed in the paper, next to the prostitutes' names.
I wish I had the original response, but after all the junk mail I get, my delete finger is a bit quick on the draw.
Severin
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So, this is a billboard that says something like, "The following men are sexual predators..." and lists a bunch of names? What about men who happen to have the same name??!! If the name "Paul Bunyon" (fopr example) is on the billboard, that means that everyone with that name is getting their name smeared as a criminal. That seems rather negligent on the part of whoever is putting up these billboards.
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Good point.
Feminism=Fascism : Get Wise to the Lies
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There are no innocent Men to Feminists. Just evil members of the Patriarchy. That's all of us. I am having Tee Shirts made up with Card Carrying Member of the Evil Patriarchy! Screw em. Our natural attraction to women has been criminalized. Rape Laws are now a matter of her perception. Consensual one day, rape the next day. And if you are well to do or a celebrity Athlete you are a target to the Money Grubbers who are Gold Diggers. Even ordinary Men can lose their jobs with just the wrong words. It is better not to talk to Women in the workplace.
KhanKrumtheBulgar
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by Anonymous User on 01:58 PM August 17th, 2004 EST (#20)
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Don't say to much about this or they might decide to start including addresses with the names.
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