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The lead post to this thread links to two articles. The woman, Elaine Donnelly, president of the Center for Military Readiness, who is quoted so much in the second article is correct. It's amazing to see that she says so much of what people have been saying for so long on this site.
From the article: "Donnelly believes the majority of American women reject what she calls the 'attitude of hostility,' toward men but she warns the feminist message has a powerful influence on young women."
I would add that, though many American women may reject the "attitude of hostility" toward men, far too many, unfortunately, still believe the feminist lies about male privilege and the oppression of females.
Also from the article: "Although certain feminists would not admit it publicly, 'they're probably quite fond' of the photo showing the Iraqi prisoner being held on a leash, said Donnelly. That's 'because it is demeaning to a man -- any man.'
"The feminists to whom Donnelly refers are 'the ones who like to buy man-hating greeting cards and have this kind of attitude that all men abused all women. It's a subculture of the feminist movement, but the driving force in it in many cases, certainly in academia,' she said.
She actually points out that man-hating is the driving force of the feminist movement in academia. She makes me think again of how many parents of CU football players consider the current rape scandal to be a witch hunt.
Mainstream feminism is finally being exposed for what it is -- society destroying hatred of men. Its most influential proponents must be held accountable for their actions.
Thomas
-- Creating hostile environments for feminazis since the 1970s.
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by Anonymous User on 03:58 PM May 11th, 2004 EST (#2)
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I know I have said this to the point of annoying the s#!t out of everyone on this site, but, again I must say, This is exactly what I've been trying (and maybe failing) to communicate.
We in America accept and even incourage the de-humanization, debaseing and humiliation of males, culturealy and through the "entertainment" and main-stream media.
I am nearly 100% certain that the way the prisoners at Abu Ghraib were treated was/is influenced by this, now societal, "norm".
We CONSTANTLY see images of women, in particular, putting men down, slapping them, punching them, beating them up, kicking them in the groin, binding and gagging them and sexually dominateing them. I can't count the number of times I have seen the; "best way for a woman to deal with a (pig) man" is to de-humanize him or humiliate him through the use of violence or to tie him up.
And there are people who are SUPRISED to see this happen...?
Although I doubt it will occur, perhaps if this incident doesn't get people talking, maybe it will at least get them THINKING.
And BTW, if anyone thinks that there are no American women getting off on these photos of male degradation, I would invite you to re-evaluate...,
Okay, I've rambled enough.
Thundercloud.
"Hoka hey!"
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More than any other photographed atrocity in recent memory, this current debacle is going to cost America dearly... and possibly unseat our unelected President.
The rest of the world understands the levels of cultural insensitivity, indeed depravity, that these photos represent.
What was done to these Muslim male prisoners, with the full cooperation and delight of our much-vaunted U.S. female "soldiers," will take decades to overcome.
Just today we saw a civilian contractor in service to the military (one of an under-reported 20,000!) decapitated in retribution.
Now, just wait 'till the next Jessica Lynch gets captured.
Is America ready to witness what's about to unfold on international mass media?
"It's a terrible thing ... living in fear."
- Roy: hunted replicant, Blade Runner
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by Anonymous User on 08:30 PM May 11th, 2004 EST (#5)
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I agree, this has the potential to be a MAJOR blood-bath.
And a possible world war III...(?)
Thundercloud.
"Hoka hey!"
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Well, it didn't take long.
The female "soldier," Ms. England, has now proclaimed publicly that she was "a victim" in the whole smarmy debacle... merely "following orders" from her male higher-ups in command.
(Of course... it's the Evil Patriarchy corrupting the higher morality of our fembot soldiers!)
Am I correct that under the Geneva Convention rules that the U.S. military observes that an enlisted solider is permitted to disobey orders that are patently illegal and/or unethical?
Text and link follow --
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/05/12/iraq/mai n616921.shtml
Female GI In Abuse Photos Talks
(CBS/AP) Army Pfc. Lynndie England, seen worldwide in photographs that show her smiling and pointing at naked Iraqi prisoners, said she was ordered to pose for the photos, and felt "kind of weird" in doing so.
In an exclusive interview with Brian Maass of Denver CBS station KCNC-TV, England also confirmed that abuses worse than those depicted in the photos were carried out at the U.S.-run Abu Ghraib prison near Baghdad, but she declined to discuss them.
England, 21, repeatedly insisted that her actions were dictated by "persons in my higher chain of command."
CBS News' 60 Minutes II will broadcast home video taken by a soldier working at the U.S. run prisons at Camp Bucca and Abu Ghraib, Tonight at 8 p.m. ET/PT.
In the photos, England is seen smiling, cigarette in her mouth, as she leans forward and points at the genitals of a naked, hooded Iraqis. Another photo taken at Abu Ghraib shows her holding a leash that encircles the neck of a naked Iraqi man lying on his side.
"I was instructed by persons in higher rank to stand there and hold this leash and look at the camera," she said.
England said the actions depicted in the photos were intended to put psychological pressure on the Iraqi prisoners.
"Well, I mean, they [the photos] were for psy-op reasons," she said "And the reasons worked. I mean, so to us, we were doing our job, which meant we were doing what we were told, and the outcome was what they wanted. They'd come back and they'd look at the pictures, and they'd state, 'Oh, that's a good tactic, keep it up. That's working. This is working. Keep doing it. It's getting what we need.'"
England, an Army reservist from West Virginia who is four months pregnant, is now stationed at Fort Bragg in North Carolina. The interview was taped Tuesday at Fort Bragg.
England is among seven soldiers from the 372nd Military Police Company who face charges for allegedly degrading and humiliating Iraqi prisoners. One soldier, Spc. Jeremy C. Sivits of Hyndman, Pa., will face a court-martial in Baghdad next week.
"To all of us who have been charged, we all agree that we don't feel like we were doing things that we weren't supposed to, because we were told to do them. We think everything was justified, because we were instructed to do this and to do that," England said.
She told KCNC she was looking forward to having her baby and hopefully one day putting the abuse scandal behind her.
"It's a terrible thing ... living in fear."
- Roy: hunted replicant, Blade Runner
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by Anonymous User on 04:16 PM May 12th, 2004 EST (#7)
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"She told KCNC she was looking forward to having her baby and hopefully one day putting the abuse scandal behind her. "
Fucking fornicating whore.
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Today's national news revealed that the U.S. military is in possession of videotapes of Ms. England having sex with several of her male comrades.
This woman is fast becoming the female version of the Marquis de Sade.
I'm confident that N.O.W. will soon create a foundation for her defense and exoneration.
Has David and Goliath Co. released their new tee-shirts in her honor yet?
"It's a terrible thing ... living in fear."
- Roy: hunted replicant, Blade Runner
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by Anonymous User on 10:47 PM May 12th, 2004 EST (#10)
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Do American women have some sort of gene that makes them completely un-able to take responsibility for their actions...?
Thundercloud.
"Hoka hey!"
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Thundercloud,
Yes.
It's their double XX chromosome set.
The second "X" stands for I'm "X-solved" of all responsibility.
"It's a terrible thing ... living in fear."
- Roy: hunted replicant, Blade Runner
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by Anonymous User on 01:28 PM May 13th, 2004 EST (#12)
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LOL.
Good one, Roy.
I intended it to be a rhetorical question but Good ansewer. :-)
Thundercloud.
"Hoka hey!"
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by Anonymous User on 01:29 PM May 13th, 2004 EST (#13)
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"LOL"
What does that mean, "LOL"?
Jinx
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LOL = "laughing out loud," one of many acronyms used in Internet talk, e.g. ROTFL ("rolling on the floor laughing"), BTW ("by the way"), etc. See list and background at The Jargon Dictionary.
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by Anonymous User on 01:15 PM May 14th, 2004 EST (#15)
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Thank you Philalethes.
I kind of thought it meant something like that.
I'm new to the whole computer world. can you tell? :-)
Jinx
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