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Female Soldier charged over Iraqi prisoner abuse
posted by Adam on 03:46 PM May 9th, 2004
News Anonymous User writes "A female soldier, Lynndie England, is facing charges for alleged involvement in the abuse of Iraqi prisoners. One picture shows her with a naked prisoner on a leash and another picture shows her giving a 'thumbs up' sign next to a naked prisoner. Her sister thinks England is innocent and that someone else told her to do what she did. Some of England's companions in the military justified the mistreatement of prisoners. Let's see what happens...On the topic of Iraqi prisoner abuse and the female gender, There's this Reuters article, a female soldier, Sabrina Harman, was told to break down prisoners for interrogations. Harman appeared in a photo with naked detainees. It is said that she struck detained individuals, and did the stand on the box or be electrocuted by attached wires technique on a hooded prisoner."

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Ladies First? Not This Time! (Score:2)
by Luek on 07:46 PM May 9th, 2004 EST (#1)
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With a female one star general in charge over the gulag that these war crimes were committed in and a couple of female soldiers gleefully taking part in torturing naked men the military in its infinite wisdom has decided that the first offender to face a court martial will be a man. I am sure this is just the way it turned out. There was of course no coercion to prosecute a male first I am sure.

Spc. Jeremy C. Sivits of Hyndman, Pa., a member of the 372nd Military Police Company, will face a military court less than a month after photos of prisoners being abused and humiliated were first broadcast April 28.
Re:Ladies First? Not This Time! (Score:1)
by geheimrat on 11:10 PM May 9th, 2004 EST (#2)
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the military in its infinite wisdom has decided that the first offender to face a court martial will be a man. I am sure this is just the way it turned out. There was of course no coercion to prosecute a male first I am sure.

The needle on my factometer budged almost imperceptibly when I read this. Sarcasm? In any case, what does it matter, even if political considerations of gender entered into the decision (this seems impossible to prove, without the testimony of those involved). It would be nice to know one way or the other; more important is whether justice will be gender blind. Faced with incontrovertible photographic evidence of the oppression of prison inmates by females--a fact which has stunned a more than a few female commentators I've read, presumably because this explodes the uncritically accepted preconception of the female as the victim of male oppression in all societies, cultures and situations--it is more important that the military courts will do their patriotic duty to turn a blind eye to the gender of the defendants.

This is not to say that females cannot be victims of oppression; it is to give lie, through a seemingly endless series of photographs of torturers who obviously relish their work, to the myth that females are never oppressors, and to illustrate that we haven't even begun to plumb the depths of denial surrounding the female capacity for oppression, for committing war crimes and for committing sex crimes.
Re:Ladies First? Not This Time! (Score:1)
by Gregory on 11:13 AM May 10th, 2004 EST (#3)
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I'm still focused on the female general in charge of the prison and what if any legal/ professional price she will pay.

It's interesting that some people actually believe that Aileen Wuornos was the *first* female serial killer.
Re:Ladies First? Not This Time! (Score:0)
by Anonymous User on 09:04 PM May 10th, 2004 EST (#4)
"It's interesting that some people actually believe that Aileen Wuornos was the *first* female serial killer."

I ran across the history of this female serial killer over the weekend,

"Elizabeth's old nurse testified that about 40 girls had been tortured and killed. In fact, Elizabeth killed 612 women -- and in her diary, she documented their deaths."

(Click) Elizabeth Bathory, 1560 - 1614

Ray
Re:Ladies First? Not This Time! (Score:0)
by Anonymous User on 04:15 PM May 11th, 2004 EST (#5)
Ray.
That IS spooky...!

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