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posted by Hombre on 02:32 PM February 6th, 2004
The Media bledso writes "You have to see just how lopsided this "campaign" is. It's about "Dating Abuse Prevention"(the domestic violence campaign isn't any better). Guess who they are interested in protecting from abuse? Be sure to check out the media links on the right hand side of the page here and it will be painfully clear."

Isn't nice that they make these lessons to teach boys not to be abusers, and girls not to be abused? Since boys and girls are equals we know that boys are more mean than girls and not as innocent, because that's what feminists have taught us equality means. Since we know that girls are always right, (or at least, close enough that it's best to pretend they are and not make videos showing the girls as guilty or anything), then we know that the behavior must have been unwarranted. In the first conversation perhaps she had his study materials for his upcoming SATs and he needed them in order to try and get into the college he wants to go to. But even still, because of our "girls are innocent" principal of "logic", we know that if that is the case, he must have done something really mean to her to deserve that. Or maybe she just forgot to return them and it's his fault for not reminding her properly or for loaning them to someone who was obviously so absent-minded. No matter what, he has no right to be mad because she avoided him that day, because we've taken as an assumption that she's right and he's wrong. It's just too bad being a jerk isn't a crime yet, because this guy is obviously really upset with some girl somewhere and yelling at her so he deserves to be in jail. Ack!

PS - You can contact the organization responsible for this ad at info@teenactioncampaign.org

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Girls' Equality in Violence (Score:1)
by Roy on 03:31 PM February 6th, 2004 EST (#1)
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In her excellent recent book "From Insult to Injury: Rethinking Our Responses to Intimate Abuse," Linda G. Mills includes an entire chapter that debunks myths about females being less aggressive than males.

(Excerpts) -

"... most mainstream feminists describe domestic violence as 'men are abusers, women are victims, and everyone should see it that way.'

However, the bulk of studies on abuse in intimate relationships clearly contradict this conclusion. ...

A study of college students affirms that violence between young men and women who are dating and not married is equal. (White and Koss - "Courtship Violence," 1991.)

Other research indicates that high school girls are at least as violent as boys in dating relationships, if not MORE SO. (Jezl, Molidor, and Wright - "Physical, Sexual, and Psychological Abuse in High School Dating Relationships," 1996.)

Mills goes into further detail about girl's common use of passive-aggressive, indirect violence -

"Because boys and men are often larger and stronger and have higher levels of physical activity, their aggression may be more physical. Girls and women, predictably, draw on their well-developed emotional strength to express aggression."

She observes - "Mainstream feminist activists and researchers have consistently argued that women's aggression against men is irrelevant because it inflicts so much less harm than the injuries men inflict on women.

These scholars argue that psychological or even physical abuse inflicted by women is irrelevant compared with other forms of violence expressed by men. ... this rhetorical and legal strategy of dismissing emotional abuse has the effect of ignoring all women's violence."

The Domestic Violence Industry requires for its continuing campaign of terrorism against men that known facts about female violence be covered up and ignored.

Once the lid is blown off the myth of female non-violence and "innocence," the feminist DV Gestapo regime will unravel very quickly.


"It's a terrible thing ... living in fear." - Roy: hunted replicant, Blade Runner
nauseating (Score:0)
by Anonymous User on 07:12 PM February 6th, 2004 EST (#2)
http://www.adcouncil.org/pdf/teenaction_print_heth inksofher.pdf

This ones rich....Maybe fathers rights activists should get a picture of a woman and her child and have it say. "She of him as her porperty". Wouldn't go over to well would it?

p. george
Re:nauseating (Score:0)
by Anonymous User on 07:12 PM February 6th, 2004 EST (#3)
that would be "she thinks of him as her property".
see no evil hear no evil (Score:0)
by Anonymous User on 07:20 PM February 6th, 2004 EST (#4)
http://www.adcouncil.org/pdf/teenaction_print_heca llsher.pdf

This ones rich as well. It says "He calls her,
He calls her 50 times a day"

WTF??? And girlfriends don't do this to their boyfriends when they're out with the guys???
I'm sorry but there some female psycos out there that will blow up your voice mail, demand to listen to your voice mail, check your e-mail, get another girl to flirt with their boyfriend to test them, smell them when they get home, show up at work!, get angry with their boyfriend when she catches them just checking out another woman walking by, etc etc ect.

I'm sorry but I've heard way more stories of women doing these things then guys calling their girlfriends 50 times a damn day.

p/ george
Re:see no evil hear no evil (Score:0)
by Anonymous User on 07:31 PM February 6th, 2004 EST (#6)
oh yeah, and lets not forget them checking out all your recieved and dialed calls. Or how 'bout just accidently dialing *69?

Oh yeah, I forgot men cheat, so women have a right to do these things. They're protecting themselves.

"one sided stories for years and years and years" ratm
Boy=abuser (Score:0)
by Anonymous User on 07:26 PM February 6th, 2004 EST (#5)
You know I had to go to school and hear talks and classes on this shit. Some of the boys would be pissed, they were tired of being singaled out. It felt like you were being accused. It's a great way to make boys feel like there's something wrong with them.

Ahhh, the fond memories of school teachers caring, such a warm feeling.

p. george
Re:Boy=abuser (Score:2)
by Thomas on 07:36 PM February 6th, 2004 EST (#7)
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It's a great way to make boys feel like there's something wrong with them.

And most academic powers-that-be keep claiming they don't understand why males don't want to be in school. No one should be fooled -- it isn't an accident that males are leaving the academy in droves. By driving males out, feminist administrators and teachers are accomplishing exactly what they set out to accomplish.

I have found school to be viciously anti-male, and the teachers know they are being viciously anti-male.

Thomas
-- Creating hostile environments for feminazis since the 1970s.

Re:Boy=abuser (Score:0)
by Anonymous User on 08:06 PM February 6th, 2004 EST (#9)
Well, I can only remember a couple of those classes on rape and such, it wasn't like there were tons. Some teachers had a bit of chip on their shoulders that I picked up on from things they said. It did seem that girls were given most of the attention through out most of my years in school which annoyed me a few times.

I hated school with all my heart, even though I got good grades. I eventually dropped out, but for other reasons.

(by the way I do have a diploma)

p. george
Re:Boy=abuser (Score:2)
by Thomas on 07:41 PM February 6th, 2004 EST (#8)
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Some of the boys would be pissed, they were tired of being singaled out.

If those boys were under 16, many of the teachers are guilty of emotional abuse of children. If there's ever justice regarding these matters, many school teachers and administrators will spend decades in prison for child abuse.

The nuns (read "proto-feminists") where I went to grade school were brutally violent against the little boys.

Thomas
-- Creating hostile environments for feminazis since the 1970s.

Re:Boy=abuser (Score:2)
by Thomas on 08:20 PM February 6th, 2004 EST (#10)
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You know I had to go to school and hear talks and classes on this shit. Some of the boys would be pissed, they were tired of being singaled out. It felt like you were being accused.

I'm curious, p. george, about how long ago was this? What were the grade levels? Were these public schools?

Thanks in advance for any response that you give.

Thomas
-- Creating hostile environments for feminazis since the 1970s.

Re:Boy=abuser (Score:0)
by Anonymous User on 08:56 PM February 6th, 2004 EST (#11)
I don't want to say how long ago this was, because I feel I've already said too much about myself on the internet. I'll say the 90's though.

Well, I fuzzily remember a class in sixth grade about date rape, or we were discussing or something.

One time in 7th(?) grade we had these teenage moms come tell the girls in class how their boyfriends lied to them about pulling out and such.

But the really nutty one happened in 9th grade, where the lady said that she was almost raped by her boyfriend or something (maybe not rape?). She said her boyfriend was trying to manipulate her into having sex because he said he had blue balls. She said she asked a friend if blue balls was real, and she was told it wasn't, that he was lying to her. This was the counselor or something like that. This was the class that really was feeling like boys were being accused, it seemed to go on and on.
   
That was a class on rape and it was not easy. The guys were speaking out and trying to disrupt her, which looking back on it, probably made her feel righteous. I'm thinking that this was a series of classes. Like three, I seem to remember more than one class on this in a row. Maybe it was just two classes.

It seemed to all be about girls being protected from boys. I don't remember school that well. It was not an enjoyable place, I spent a lot of time day dreaming.

Yes, these were public schools. The high school was the school people did not try to get into. It was kinda known as ghetto.

At the end of 10th grade I dropped out. I was getting good grades though, but I had other things to I worried about.
 
That's all I can recall for now.

p, george

Re:Boy=abuser (Score:2)
by Thomas on 09:08 PM February 6th, 2004 EST (#12)
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Thanks, p. george.

Thomas
-- Creating hostile environments for feminazis since the 1970s.

Re:Boy=abuser (Score:0)
by Anonymous User on 12:16 AM February 7th, 2004 EST (#14)
I think it would be a neat idea to incourage boys to simply walk out of classes that go this way.
Just a thought.

Thundercloud.

"Hoka hey!"
Re:Boy=abuser (Score:0)
by Anonymous User on 02:29 AM February 7th, 2004 EST (#15)
Hey, you guys this is just from my point of view. Other guys might have totally different perspectives. Except for seeing the reaction of those other boys I don't know how others felt. I never asked, or probably cared (then).

p. george
Re:Boy=abuser (Score:0)
by Anonymous User on 02:21 PM February 7th, 2004 EST (#16)
Blue balls are a real condition, it's called vasocongestion and women can experience it, too. It works similar to a headache in which bloodflow is constricted and the blood is forced through a narrower path, resulting in pain. It can go away on its own or through sexual release.

Just using "blue balls" as a reason to have sex doesn't seem like rape at all. Maybe it was manipulative, but certainly not rape. (I would think rape would require a totally unwilling partner; none of this "I changed my mind" after the fact stuff.)
We care about 'teens' (Score:0)
by Anonymous User on 09:34 PM February 6th, 2004 EST (#13)
"And while teens are clear on the "black and white" issues of relationship abuse, they are less clear about the "gray areas" of behavior that indicate warning signs, such as harassment or emotional abuse."

Do they really want to take this route? It might be found that some girls are proficient at emotional abuse. But I digress, boys don't have feelings.

p. george
"Woman Good - Man Bad," - Glenn Sacks (Score:0)
by Anonymous User on 02:14 PM February 8th, 2004 EST (#17)
"No matter what, he has no right to be mad because she avoided him that day, because we've taken as an assumption that she's right and he's wrong. It's just too bad being a jerk isn't a crime yet, because this guy is obviously really upset with some girl somewhere and yelling at her so he deserves to be in jail. Ack!"

I've been kind of busy lately making T-shirts from the males perspective. Here's one that sort of fits the situation addressed above: D.V. Law Corruply Exploits Men.

Here's another: If You Shelter A Battering Female.

and another: Battered Man Syndrome is an Epidemic.

and another: Victims Are Cheated.

and another: Stop Denying.

and another: Prison and the Grave.

and another: Shame on the Domestic Violence Movement.

and another: What Can Women Do?.

There's more at the site: Cafepress, in the shop: Mensbiz.

We hope to keep adding and adding and adding to all sections of the shops until we have clearly defined the issues that so adversely impact so many men today.

Sincerely, Ray
I'VE FOUND OUT WHO'S BEHIND THE SEEITANDSTOPIT SIT (Score:0)
by Anonymous User on 11:23 PM March 13th, 2004 EST (#18)
Hi I'm new here. I wouldn't normally visit a site like this but i've been driven here after becoming sick of being bombarded with banners for the seeitandstopitsite.

I've never seen anything as sexist as this site ever, so I decided to find out who was behind it.

one of the companies behind it is AOL (who are crap if you ask me), but more importantly - the campaign was founded by Jane Doe Inc!!!

see this link for more info:

http://www.janedoe.org/About/about_tac.htm

For those who don't know, apparently Jane Doe is a feminist extremist and her organisation is highly anti male.

Here are some very recent Jane Doe quotes (article is 2 dasy old - there are probably better ones, but this is the first interview with her that i found):

"We need to understand that rape is about men, it’s not about women"

"the way police investigate sexual assault...(is) worse than it was, say in 1986"

"Why are our baby boys, who we love and cherish and who are born perfect, socialized that they are entitled to be violent against women"

"Feminism is...the most effective social justice movement in recorded history" (hmm i wonder what martin luther king might think about that?)


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