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More Anti-Male "Humor"
posted by Adam on Saturday November 15, @09:53AM
from the Gotta-get-'em-all! dept.
The Media Boy Genteel writes "I've found another company that we need to "have a little talk with". I saw one of their calendars--the one called MEN! with the retro-stylings--in a bookstore. More of the same, 12 months of "Men are great...every woman should have a pet!" and "Men: half the population, quarter the brains." There are others like it on the website. I looked for a similar calendar degrading women--not that I'd buy one...I think that would be just as wrong--but it's telling that there isn't one about women. The name of the company is Ronnie Sellers Productions and their contact addresses are rsp@RSVP.com and mweiner@RSVP.com. Let's have a few words with them, how about it?"

And they say it's a best seller too! Ack!

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Send Them Suggestions Instead (Score:2)
by Luek on Sunday November 16, @10:48AM EST (#1)
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There is a link on their site where artists can submit their work for possible publication.

So instead of just sending them a message criticizing their misandric bigoted attitudes toward 50% of the world's population, send them some suggestions on a calendar that takes a "lighthearted" look at the comical side of women. A very fertile field indeed.

Here is one. "Why are women like fax machines? They are useful for one very specific purpose but otherwise just high-maintenance paperweights."

Or, how about "Why are women like country western songs?
They're annoying, they all sound alike, but if you really listen to them you'll get depressed and drink a lot."

And this good one. "Why are women like blue jeans?" blue jeans
They look good for a while but eventually they fade and have to be replaced."


Re:Send Them Suggestions Instead (Score:0)
by Anonymous User on Sunday November 16, @02:22PM EST (#4)
I don't think this is particularly helpful. All it would do is increase resentment by women, and keep the cycle going.
Re:Send Them Suggestions Instead (Score:2)
by Luek on Sunday November 16, @05:41PM EST (#5)
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The idea behind this strategy is to get those pinheads whomever they are to look at what they are doing and to make them give a reason for not printing a similar calendar that degrades females the way the male one does. I am not totally sure but it might be a female publisher. Just imagine her reading e-mails with suggested female bashing jokes to compliment the male ones.

Unfortunately, I believe that a few justified criticisms of their absurd calendar would just be blown off by them or maybe her. There seems to be more behind this "light hearted" look at men than one might first suspect. It looks like someone is carrying a grudge against all men and has a sick need to debase them.
Re:Send Them Suggestions Instead (Score:1)
by Boy Genteel on Monday November 17, @11:33AM EST (#8)
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So let's not send just "a few" justified criticisms; let's send several. Thirty-five, maybe. We have the numbers here, so we need to exploit them. One or two angry letters won't do much...in fact, they'll probably just print them and pass them around for a few laughs. If a few dozen of us send angry letters, then they might begin to get the message. Ditto with everything we come across on MA that angers us.
Modern culture enables misandy (Score:0)
by Anonymous User on Sunday November 16, @01:13PM EST (#2)
"Men: half the population, quarter the brains."

Considering every aspect of technology that has enabled feminists to spread their hate, and every woman has been liberated from domestic servitude by means of inventions by men for the benefit of society - such statements are absurd.

Men have built a comfy automated world for women to live in, yet feminists maintain that men as a gender are either privileged or pathological. Hypocrisy!

I remember in highschool... (Score:0)
by Anonymous User on Sunday November 16, @02:08PM EST (#3)
In highschool (about 8 years ago now..), I was part of the band there.. we had a female band leader that once read us all these types of jokes from a student's joke book. She honestly thought they were quite funny, and didn't see any problem in sharing them with students (male and female) for a laugh... I wish I had done more that simply walked out of the class.

I found out later she was in the middle of a separation.... not that that makes things any better... just interesting.


Re:I remember in highschool... (Score:1)
by Renegade on Monday November 17, @10:37AM EST (#6)
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From that web site: "One of our best-selling new titles last year, this calendar presents a lighthearted look at life for today’s woman. The retro inspired images take on a new twist when combined with a contemporary woman’s point of view."

Jokes about men="light hearted"

Jokes about women="Misogynist attempts to humiliate and keep women oppressed."

:rolleyes:

R
Re:I remember in highschool... (Score:1)
by Boy Genteel on Monday November 17, @11:31AM EST (#7)
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>

Okay, but don't just tell us. We already agree with you. If I e-mail the company, they'll dismiss it. If a few dozen people e-mail the company, they'll notice. I've provided contact information. I hope you use it.

bg

Regarding your calendars (Score:1)
by tparker on Monday November 17, @05:08PM EST (#9)
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Here's the msg I sent, hope y'all got one off to them as well.

The sample I saw on your website of this calendar was sexist, as was your "Stupid Guy Jokes" sample and your "Teen Queen" sample. Your "Perfect Guy" calendar seems in every way equivalent to the "Cheesecake" calendars of yesteryear, and can presumably be described as sexist, just as those calendars have been. I was unable to find equivalent "humor" directed at women. I must therefore ask - are you being intentionally sexist? Or have you determined that your market share consists of people who like to be sexist? In either case, sexism seems to be what you are purveying with these calendars.

Consider this - if you reversed the sexes in each of your "humorous" calendars, would the jokes still be funny to you?

I intend to notify as many people as possible of the sexism expressed in your calendars, and I will encourage them to see for themselves and do likewise. I shall certainly not buy any of your products while the sexism you express persists, nor will I encourage others to do so.

Re:Regarding your calendars (Score:1)
by Boy Genteel on Monday November 17, @06:55PM EST (#10)
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Here's mine:

--I came across one of your calendars, entitled MEN!, in a local bookstore. I predicted the kind of thing I would find in it, and I was correct--the denigration of men, insinuations that men are stupid and inferior to women, and a suggestion that every woman should keep a man as a pet. I searched your website for a similar calendar (or any product) about women...not that I'd buy that one, either, mind you--that would be just as wrong--but the absence of anti-woman products and the presence of anti-man products, put together, are quite glaring and a sure sign of your hypocrisy.

If it's just harmless fun and just playful teasing that you're engaging in, then where are the jokes about women being stupid, inferior "pets"? And if your answer is that it "wouldn't be right" to sell products that demean women, then MY answer is that it's no more acceptable to sell products that demean men.

I suggest you remove this calendar and similar products from your line immediately.--

Now keep it going, folks...

bg
Re:Regarding your calendars (Score:1)
by tparker on Tuesday November 18, @02:01PM EST (#15)
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Their response - disheartening, but we if we keep working at them, we will get there.

Thank you for your e-mail to Ronnie Sellers Productions. Your message has been forwarded to the appropriate department in our company. We regard all correspondence as private, and your comments will be given the highest consideration.

Thanks again for contacting Ronnie Sellers Productions.


The email of the person who replied is Chris Wyble (cwyble@rsvp.com)

sent one (Score:1)
by crescentluna (evil_maiden@yahoo.com) on Monday November 17, @08:18PM EST (#11)
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Not my best, but I felt I should send something.

"The contemporary woman has a lot to answear for if this her viewpoint, this woman is materialistic, sexist, cruel and foolish. She apparently delights in demeaning men as mentally inferior. Apparently, according to this contemporay woman, his opinion, emotions, don't matter - he's just an idiot man. Why don't you have any calenders calling women stupid, fit to be slaves, inferior? I guess women have feelings, men don't.
I suppose their lack of feelings explains the 400% higher suicide rate."
Re:me too (Score:1)
by jenk on Monday November 17, @08:49PM EST (#12)
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I was just looking at your calendar selection and found some disturbing items, namely "Men", "The Perfect Guy" and "Stupid Guy Jokes."
In "Men", the phrase "Proof That God Has A Sense Of Humor" insinuates that men are a joke, unlike women.
In the perfect guy, all the models have wind up keys on their backs, denoting their status as toys. I would not have quite the problem with this IF there were a corresponding calendar for men showing women. However since there is not, this leads to the assumption that only men are to be viewed as inanimate objects.
In Stupid Guy Jokes, the calender itself seems like a male oriented product. However, your description reads "Welcome to the mind of a guy where nothing else matters but girls, beer, and ... well ... that’s pretty much it." Men are not simpletons who only like 2 things. Would you describe a calendar for women as "Welcome to the mind of a woman where nothing else matters but shoes and losing weight?" No, because it would be offensive.
I realize that in these times it is standard fare to slam men and make fun of them, it is not appreciated by many of us women who have good men in our lives. Until I see things changing on your site I will not be purchasing any of your products. I really liked your "Dog Co-dependants" calender and was ready to buy it until I saw the rest of your products.
Sincerely, Jen
Re:sent one (Score:0)
by Anonymous User on Monday November 17, @11:50PM EST (#13)
good post.
Re:sent one (Score:0)
by Anonymous User on Friday November 21, @05:46AM EST (#17)
women r only sex organ mind it

No joke -- we should collect this merchandise (Score:0)
by Anonymous User on Tuesday November 18, @01:28PM EST (#14)

The other day I saw some posters for sale at Tower Records, with similar jokes about boys.

What's the right way to respond to this? Buy this stuff, and make a collection.

Picture in your mind a museum display, with memorabilia of a time when it was considered OK to openly express hatred of men. I don't know if this museum will be in the near or far future... but it will only exist if we create it. We should buy these calendars, and keep them ready to use them as evidence.


Re:No joke -- we should collect this merchandise (Score:0)
by Anonymous User on Tuesday November 18, @09:31PM EST (#16)
Talking of museums, I believe some Holocaust museums have sections dealing with the denigration of the Jewish people in the Nazi era. The villification of men by feminazis is remarkably similar.
Reminds me of a coworker's keychain (Score:1)
by Dr. Dan on Tuesday November 25, @10:39AM EST (#18)
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Shortly after starting a job, I chatted with one of my new coworkers and the subject of keychains came up. (You know, those keychains that have little bytes of humor on them.) She said that she has one that says, "The more men I meet, the more I like my horse." Then she explained that she's been divorced twice.

That little episode foreshadowed what it was like for me to work in that office with about six women. If that job didn't teach me that only half (if that many) of all chauvinist pigs are male, nothing will!
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