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Fantastic! Thank you for this, Trudy; you are a true gem. I wish you the best of luck with this action. Please keep us informed. (I'm sure you will.)
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Bless you Trudy for taking this action. I hope it goes well.
I wish you and the attorneys involved could write a little "How To" on this sort of thing. It would be great for many of us to learn how to do this sort of thing and carry on what you have done in other cities.
Standyourground Forums
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Great News Trudy!
Please publish the legal basis for litigating a "fraud" suit of this nature, so that others might employ this tactic against the DV gestapo.
For example, if the fundamental criteria is knowingly and intentionally misleading (defrauding) the public, then the entire so-called DV "treatment" apparatus is ripe for targeting for fraud.
Most all states have a Bureau of Domestic Violence Prevention receiving VAWA money to carry on their gender fascism.
These Bureaus (usually housed within the State's Attorney General's office and/or Department of Human Welfare), also publish a DV "Protocol" -- required guidelines for being state-certified to provide batterer's "treatment" services.
These Protocols are textbook examples of fraudulent statistics on family violence, mandating that only men be targeted as perpetrators of DV, and they typically chant the radical feminist "Duluth Model" dogma about patriarchy and "male privilege" being the cause of domestic abuse.
If a civil lawsuit can prevail on the basis of the intention to deceive, defraud, and harm the public, then watch out!
This strategy might just offer a means to inexpensively harrass, inconvenience, financially bleed, and/or even ultimately abolish the current feminist regime of gender terrorism that profits from DV hysteria.
"It's a terrible thing ... living in fear."
- Roy: hunted replicant, Blade Runner
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Trudy, you are awesome. Truth is an amazing tool if we will just use it.
Know means Know
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by Anonymous User on Tuesday October 21, @06:50PM EST (#4)
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Trudy:
This is some of the best news I've heard all month. I salute you. Your kindness to the overlooked victims of domestic violence (men) is a blessing.
Ray
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by Anonymous User on Tuesday October 21, @07:37PM EST (#5)
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YOU GO GIRL!
- From a victim of the DV gestapo.
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Damn straight. The minute one of these lying sacks of suet recieve and accept a plug nickel on the basis of the lies they have told, they have commited fraud, and should be held to the highest standard of the law.
Here's a $64,000 question - Don't false accusers of Rape and DV cast a shadow over real victims when their lies unravel?
Hmmm? I mean let's say - and I am talking to you ladies - that your brother or son is on the recieving end of a false accusation, and it later came out that it was indeed false. Wouldn't you thereafter look with a jaundiced eye towards anyone else who made such an accusation?
Hmm?
Now - HOW COME - How come it is that these - ahem - people are often the first to jump in line to defend false accusers? The first to pipe up and claim it proves they need "More Money?"
Now - doesn't it beg the question - is it about the victims really? Or the money and the power?
I've said it before. Follow the money. ALWAYS follow the money. All else is smoke and mirrors. "Pay No Attention to the Ugly BULL DYKE Behind the Curtain!"
Follow the money.
* Putting the SMACKDOWN on Feminazis since 1989! *
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by Anonymous User on Tuesday October 21, @11:32PM EST (#8)
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Trudy;
I listened to Glenn Sacks on KFYI, Phoenix tonight and one call in talked about how Glenn must be stereotyping etc., when he talks about male victims of d.v., and it just brought home to me again what a choke hold the d.v. industry has on what info gets out.
I tried to call in, but was placed on hold and never got on. Still, it was a better listen on the phone than over a computer. After the show ended I was a little frustrated so I wrote Glenn and email.
"Every d.v. call that a cop goes on has a ride along feminist to rationalize the d.v incident, disregard evidence or outright destroy evidence of a man's domestic violence injuries, and help fabricate evidence to allege false claims of a woman's d.v. injuries. It's really shocking to see it with your own eyes. I even filed a claim with internal affairs, but they are just the foxes watching the chicken coop in this regard.
Feminist training and feminist ride alongs help the cops write their reports and tell them how to write what down. Every time a woman calls the police she gets the feminist trained cops coaching here in how to help the feminist run d.v. business. The only reason there is 65% of serious d.v. injuries allegedly reported to be committed by men is thanks to feminist lies, feminist training and feminist corruption across the spectrum of the d.v. industry. It's just that rotten. I guarantee you that there are valid male victims who do not get in those data bases who should be there, and I guarantee you that there are scam artist females coached by the above who do get in who shouldn't be there.
I would estimate that in Los Angeles there is a 35% false arrest rate of men where the alleged female victim should be getting arrested instead of the man. It's just that corrupt. Glenn's call in guest needs to open her eyes to the gross corruption that exists in this d.v. industry, and how women use bruises they have from sports, work, or self inflict, to frame men. Once they get their golden weapon all they need do is fake the rest. The police are much more than willing to accomdate, and there's no penalty for the criminal female filing the false police report if it doesn't work out. The feminist arm of the law will just sweep it under the rug.
My goodness, even when the police get caught in a blatantly false police report they scam it out. They stick with blatantly false statements made by a false accuser. How blatantly stupid can this whole thing be? The corruption in LAPD (like many police dept's. around the country) is astounding in this area and stinks to high heaven.
Some day in the after life if I am permitted a view of hell from a far, far more pleasant place, I'm sure I'll see a sign at the lowest rung, no admittance, reserved for the d.v. industry liars and their ilk."
Sincerely, Ray
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by Anonymous User on Wednesday October 22, @01:29AM EST (#9)
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"In a formal complaint filed with the AZ Attorney General last week, Yuma resident Trudy W. Schuett accused Catholic Community Services..."
Trudy:
I've been to your web site and have seen the sincere spiritual side of your work. I've also heard that the guy whose suing the d.v. shelters (including the YWCA) out in Los Angeles is a Christian. I believe there were some other religious affiliations to that list of sued shelters too.
Isn't it interesting that a couple of people, who no doubt weigh matters seriously in their conscience, should have been led to such significant action in regards to the work and activities of the d.v. industry.
I see President Bush is still pushing his faith based initiative (which includes d.v. training and services) in churches.
I think when the good people in those places find out that the domestic violence industry is in many ways "hate based," against men, those good people may have something to say about that. At least let us hope and pray that is the case.
If we have not love we are indeed nothing. It is horrifying to think of a conscious eternity suspended in a void of nothingness, where there is no feeling, no light, no sound, no smell, no taste, and no end to time. We have only the little time in our lives to show kindness to one another and even to batterers like those malefactors in the domestic violence industry.
Let us pray that these legal actions will serve to pull at least some of these misguided feminists back from the dark and slippery path that is leading to a fall and a deep, deep chasm where their vociferous agenda will speak no more lies forever.
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** I see President Bush is still pushing his faith based initiative (which includes d.v. training and services) in churches.
I think when the good people in those places find out that the domestic violence industry is in many ways "hate based," against men, those good people may have something to say about that. At least let us hope and pray that is the case. **
SORRY, but I don't envision Mock-Prez Bush-the-Shrub (our beloved, grammatically-challenged, dry-drunk, ex-coke-head, draft-dodging, illegally-elected "leader") to be "thinking" much at all about your sincere ethical concerns.
He's too preoccupied trying to figure out how to steal and secure Iraq's oil reserves for his family's (and the Ben Ladin clan's) future largesse.
He has bigger frauds to occupy his admittedly limited attention span ....
But, he'll play you... until you see through it... or not!
"It's a terrible thing ... living in fear."
- Roy: hunted replicant, Blade Runner
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by Anonymous User on Wednesday October 22, @08:34AM EST (#14)
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"But, he'll play you... until you see through it... or not!"
Roy:
I agree. His hate based initiative, bringing the militant feminists domestic violence agenda into the church is his attempt at garnering that factions votes. He won't get a one of them and he is losing other votes in the process. He is also contributing to the dissension in the church by creating a ton of problems where only a tiny few exist.
He is helping the militant feminists to bring their attack on the patriarchy into the church, and in the process is their dupe. In the process he has more than earned his "dufus dunce of the year award." Where is a candidate who will be honest about the issues that men face as well as those that women face.
Women get VAWA, and men can't even find refuge in the church from the deviltry of the militant feminist agenda, yet our hypocrite president has no problems sending men off to Iraq to be 99.99% of combat deaths with NO Violence Against Men Act for men traumatized by the horrors of war. I've heard our fighting men are forced into some militant feminist training in domestic violence when they get back from the war. Is there no end to the disgrace this chivalrous bigot heaps on men?
Beware, when George W. Bushes' hate based initiative brings the domestic violence agenda to your church. You will then have an abusive church not fit for any man to attend.
Beware the "hate based domestic violence agenda of chivalrous George W. Bush. He doesn't have a clue what domestic violence is really all about.
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This is the first I've heard of the churches taking up domestic violence issues.
I'm not really sure what's going on, my assumption is that Bush had the dv shelters moved to, or under the churches supervision?
This might not be such a bad idea. The church is a place of ideology, so is the dv shelters who were used as a platform for their anti-male agenda. The women who go to dv shelters are being brainwashed that is obvious to anyone with half a marble. At least if they go to the church they will see some positive male models, and 'love' and 'forgiveness' might be the essential teachings.
In my opinion this is a step forward, though I share your concern. But since I don't go to church very often it doesn't matter if it's highjacked by feminists, which I seriously doubt will happen. Those churchies are starting to wake up to feminism and its destructive nature. I say it's a good thing and worth a shot.
Keep your friends close, your enemies closer. Sun Tzu.
Dan Lynch's Self-Defence (519) 774-2121
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by Anonymous User on Wednesday October 22, @05:47PM EST (#16)
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This might not be such a bad idea. The church is a place of ideology, so is the dv shelters who were used as a platform for their anti-male agenda. The women who go to dv shelters are being brainwashed that is obvious to anyone with half a marble. At least if they go to the church they will see some positive male models, and 'love' and 'forgiveness' might be the essential teachings.
I must say that I agree with Dan here. The current DV Shelter agenda is riddled with Marxism ideologies. The idea is the bread down the family and put the male on the street.
On of the most successful strategies of the male-hating feminist is to adopt the masculist agenda and then put a feminist spin on it. We see this everywhere.
Perhaps Bush knows something we don't.
Warble
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by Anonymous User on Wednesday October 22, @06:38PM EST (#17)
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Some of the churches out there are definitely falling into the feminist agenda's domestic violence trap. I caught my own Pastor promoting a d.v. workshop for another church, and talked to him about it. We wound up with a list of questions that he took to the workshop. He asked one or two questions got their answers, then came back and talked to me. He got educated in a very significant way to what he was getting into and I was very surprised to hear the support coming to families and men in his sermons after that. That's right, from the pulpit in a house of God.
"THOU SHALT NOT LIE." Question: How many lies do you have to catch a feminst agenda in before it loses credibility in the Church? Answer: about 1/1,000,000,000,000,000 of all the lies they've ever told about domestic violence.
Sincerely, Ray
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"He got educated in a very significant way to what he was getting into and I was very surprised to hear the support coming to families and men in his sermons after that. That's right, from the pulpit in a house of God. "
Why would you be suprised? The house of god as done nothing but push for men to be respectful to all human life.
The manufactured reality of dv is part of an ongoing attack to undermine the family and turn us into slaves.
Feminism is a covert attack at destroying not repairing or problem solving, but outright destroying. They don't care about rape, they don't care about bulimia, they don't care about dv, they only care about destroying. They will use the above list to reach their goal. Even the women who participate in feminism don't even realize what they are actually doing.
Dan Lynch's Self-Defence (519) 774-2121
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But , by the way, good work, Ray. I can not tell people enough how essential it is to win people over one at a time.
Dan Lynch's Self-Defence (519) 774-2121
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by Anonymous User on Thursday October 23, @08:29AM EST (#20)
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Ray, could you list what questions you gave your pastor to ask? I think they would be helpful. Jen
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J.,
Much thanks for your insightful posts and, most of all, for your sincere efforts to always transform the occasional "vitriol" and "angst" on this site towards CONSTRUCTIVE directions.
(RE. - asking Ray for specific questions so that others might benefit in their own churchly activities... just one example of your focus on the practical...)
You're a gem!
Please keep posting... all of us need to learn from your positivity!
"It's a terrible thing ... living in fear."
- Roy: hunted replicant, Blade Runner
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Trudy,
I do not know you, but I wanted to say a few things 'to you'. I am putting them on open forum instead of E-mailing you. You will see why.
1) I know you will take this the right way, especially coming from me on this site:
TRUDY: YOU DA MAN!!!!!!!!!!
GO TRUDY GO TRUDY GO TRUDY GO TRUDY GO TRUDY GO
2) You are, all joking aside, a God-send to men. Seriously. I mean, the men's movement has some great female supporters. It really helps us out, because the feminazis won't attack you like they will us. Now, THEY WILL GO AFTER YOU, but not in the ways we are vulnerable. I offer my sincere support. I have good office skills and if you need some 'secretarial' skills: well, I have found my 'gift' (as in the Christian gift) is that of the servant. It's tough with my Type 'A' personality, but I am a good servant. Our society is so much about 'attitude' and 'appearance' that being a servant is looked down upon. Not to me. To serve well means elevating other people and being willing to work for a common good. Let me know if I can assist:
My E-mail lsbeene@gci.net
3) He or she who bends down to help another stand taller stands tallest in the Kingdom.
4) GO TRUDY GO TRUDY GO TRUDY GO TRUDY GO TRUDY
(sorry couldn't resist)
5) (this is my personal belief system, allow me this fellas:) PSALM 34
I will extol the Lord at all times, His praise will always be on my lips. My soul will boast in the Lord; Let the AFFLICTED hear and REJOICE. Glorify the Lord with me; Let us exalt His name together. I sought the Lord and He answered me, He delivered me from all my fears. Those who look to him are radiant; their faces are never covered with shame. The poor man called, and the Lord heard him; he saved him out of all his troubles. The angel of the lord encamps around those who fear him, and he delivers them.
( I read this at random shortly after I was falsely accused of rape. Kinda helped. Hope Y'all didn't mind.)
I hope this message finds you Trudy, and finds you well.
Peace
Steven
Guerilla Gender Warfare is just Hate Speech in polite text
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I copied what I wrote from MICROSOFT WORD to check my spelling and it got jacked up. Arghh. Looks terrible. Sorry .. won't do THAT again
Guerilla Gender Warfare is just Hate Speech in polite text
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by Anonymous User on Wednesday October 22, @08:17AM EST (#13)
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I agree with Steven, albeit with better grammer!;-)
Trudy, we are not worthy....
Jen
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