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Our Philosophy
posted by D on Saturday August 23, @03:04AM
from the Mann-Kind dept.
Announcements And I say "our" , because it is our's. The ideals of Men's Activism News Network are simple. Its not complex even if the issues we tackle are. Every once and a while the administrators of this board like to post this page Please go here. In keeping with the tradition that MANN hopes to create I hope all posters take five minuts to read this. This of course is not to stifle debate or censor anyone's feelings, but the one thing it does encourage is 'empathy'. Not just for men, but for women and all races and individuals of all sorts. Still encouraging you to speak your mind, but please consider the posts you submit and it's relevance to our cause. One of the smallest poems ever spoken was by Muhammad Ali, it goes "Me, We". Our war is an ideological one and their weapon is hate, not ours. We need to nuetralize it, not inflame it. And to remind you, there is no end to our appreciation of your contributions. We will continue and we will love, laugh and smile as we do it. :)

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How nice. (Score:2)
by The Gonzo Kid (NibcpeteO@SyahPoo.AcomM) on Saturday August 23, @08:38AM EST (#3)
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Gee, an Anonytroll taking potshots. Boy, never seen that before. Your courage in taking a stand for all to see, and having the intestinal fortitude to stand behind what you say is an inspiration to us all.

What a loser.

* Putting the SMACKDOWN on Feminazis since 1989! *
Re:How nice. (Score:2)
by The Gonzo Kid (NibcpeteO@SyahPoo.AcomM) on Saturday August 23, @08:52AM EST (#6)
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I'm the same person every time, with the same logon, and the same password, and if I say something on one day, I can't come on the next and say, "That wasn't me, it was another Gonzo Kid."

Nice try, Anonytroll. It'll work better, though, if you compare Apples to Apples and Oranges to Oranges.

Tell you what, buckwheat. Look up and you can get my email from the spamguard extra text - a lot of people already have (unless, of course, it's beyond your intellect.) You go ahead an email me your info. You did ask, so, by all means. You first.

I didn't think so.

* Putting the SMACKDOWN on Feminazis since 1989! *
Re:How nice. (Score:2)
by The Gonzo Kid (NibcpeteO@SyahPoo.AcomM) on Saturday August 23, @09:30AM EST (#12)
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You know, bucky, just by going and looking up my info - via regular old mousecliks - and using a little intuitive thought, I navigated right to my name, address, and phone number.

Try it out. And by all means, call and harass me. Or email Bomb me. Or better yet, drop in for a visit. :-)

If you feel froggy, by all means, jump.

* Putting the SMACKDOWN on Feminazis since 1989! *
Re:How nice. (Score:2)
by Dan Lynch on Saturday August 23, @10:56AM EST (#15)
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"Your a courageous man posting to a forum as Gonzo Kid. Now post your address and real name, show your true courage! I suppose you can't refute it since it's all true."

Dan Lynch.
19 Brenda court #4
Brantford, Ontario
Canada.
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Empathy (Score:2)
by The Gonzo Kid (NibcpeteO@SyahPoo.AcomM) on Saturday August 23, @09:22AM EST (#10)
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A difficult thing to come by. In case it isn't obvious, it's not a hostility to women I have, but a complete indifference to them; and I have to say, I have done it but deliberately exorcising any empathy I feel that is based solely on femininity.

Do I hold the door for the occasional woman - well, and just this AM, I held the door at Mickey D's when some man was trying to navigate it with an armload.

I was the first to pipe up the other night when some woman started talking about "castration without anesthesia" for all rapists, saying, "Oh, good, and can we cut the tongue out of all false accusers in the same operating room? Do we have to resterilize the scapel first? Or are we just going to use a spoon because it'll hurt more?" Trust me, guys, it went downhill from there. I was feeling uncharitable even by my own standards, and it ended with her bawling and asking why I'd want to do that to a girl, and me replying that without a tongue it'd be easier for her to suck my...

anyway.

My brother, God help him, always had the chivalrous attitude, and couldn't understand why I was putting my children through fighting for the right to be their father. Lo and behold, this summer, wifey of his gets the 16 year itch, and guess who is now suddenly faced with stark reality? Sad to say, but it's usual that until most men are burned by the system, and lose house, car, family, livlihood - only then do they come to the men's movement. Maybe there is hope for the next generation; I remember watching my ex-wife's face when my son told her not to look for him to get married any time soon - he was going to be real picky, as he'd seen what Dad went through with a divorce. (That's right, ladies. Don't want your sons to learn those lessons? Here's a clue - don't teach them.)

Like the vast majority of men "going through it" though, Baby Bro isn't going to have the time or energy or mental savior faire to devote to any meaningful men's causes. He's up to his ass in alligators right now. Afterwards, when the reality of family court has taken a few gaping chunks out of his tuchis, guess what his attitude will likely be. After I went through it with Wife 1, I was an angry motherforker. Piuty wife number two - what I learned from wife 1 I applied on her with a vengeance, last I heard she was a welfare queen living in the sticks with two children, 1 father unknown, another father in prison for 4 counts of armed robbery - and consecutive sentences. I broke that bitch, all she got was a car that barely ran and a trunkload of clothes. My take from the garage sale was a cool 2 grand.

Yes, guys, you can win. However, the system has been set up so that in order to even break even you have to be an unchivalrous bastard. Embrace your unchivalrous bastard - they're betting you do the noble thing and just bend over and spread your butt-cheeks for brutal sodomization.

No. I have no sympathy or empathy for the "Female condition" because it's my conclusion that to be female in this country entitles you to a free ride for the asking on somebody else's nickel. Bravo to the women who decline to ride for free. I honestly do salute them - but I think they are a rare breed.


* Putting the SMACKDOWN on Feminazis since 1989! *
Re:Empathy (Score:2)
by Dan Lynch on Saturday August 23, @10:57AM EST (#16)
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Personally I believe there are ways of using chilivry against the feminist establishment. I believe I have figured out why feminists want to themselves destroy chiliry.

What works against you can work for you, if you can figure out how to do it.

More on this at a later date.
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Re:Guys Can Win? (Score:2)
by Dittohd on Saturday August 23, @09:37PM EST (#17)
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>Yes, guys, you can win.

I think it all depends on the woman. Some women are just not the type who will put it to her man (even at divorce time) and will readily get screwed if she's against a street-smart guy.

Put a vengeful bitch against that same man and with her feminist friends, an SOB lawyer and the government assisting, advising, and always supporting her, he doesn't stand a snowball's chance in hell.

Dittohd

you go Gonzo! (Score:1)
by scudsucker on Sunday August 24, @11:49AM EST (#18)
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"Oh, good, and can we cut the tongue out of all false accusers in the same operating room? Do we have to resterilize the scapel first? Or are we just going to use a spoon because it'll hurt more?"

I love it, I love it.

Bravo to the women who decline to ride for free.

I was watching Comedy Central last night, and there was a nice looking blonde who I almost made me break out into applause. She said "comon girls, buy the guy a drink" and pointed out that most men work very hard at their jobs. Also on how its not fair that men have to pay $10 just to say hello and $20 to get a wrong phone number.
Re:Empathy (Score:1)
by Renegade on Monday August 25, @10:40AM EST (#19)
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"No. I have no sympathy or empathy for the "Female condition" because it's my conclusion that to be female in this country entitles you to a free ride for the asking on somebody else's nickel. Bravo to the women who decline to ride for free. I honestly do salute them - but I think they are a rare breed."

This is similiar to how I feel. I, myself, would never knowingly cause problems for, hurt, take advantage or otherwise act negatively towards another person. However, as the years go on (and on and on), I am constantly being told that women are victimized by society only to be shown immediately afterwards the amount of power that they have in society.

I find it difficult to feel symapthy for women that suffer problems in society because, to me, they hold most of the advantages and yet can hide it under a veil of being pure, weak and innocent.

I also have a lot of respect for the women that DO decline their advantages *because* they think it is an unfair advantage or DO acknowledge that males may have a time as difficult or more difficult than they do.

At least, that is my view.

R
Re:Empathy (Score:2)
by Dan Lynch on Monday August 25, @12:13PM EST (#22)
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"I find it difficult to feel symapthy for women that suffer problems in society because, to me, they hold most of the advantages and yet can hide it under a veil of being pure, weak and innocent. "

I just see them as being fattened for the kill.
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Re:Empathy (Score:0)
by Anonymous User on Monday August 25, @12:54PM EST (#23)
"I find it difficult to feel symapthy for women that suffer problems in society because, to me, they hold most of the advantages and yet can hide it under a veil of being pure, weak and innocent."

          Exactly. Women retain all the traditional perks of being a woman even though they have cast aside all traditional obligations of being a woman. This is unjustifiable. It is the basis of all the injustice suffered by men. It is "unilateral chivalry".


stufff (Score:1)
by crescentluna (evil_maiden@yahoo.com) on Monday August 25, @11:18PM EST (#24)
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Eh, you know, I don't really bother replying with the poster is going to severly disagree with me over something - flame wars are such a bore, and all. though feeding the trolls is funny. But if they're regulars that just gotta way different viewpoint than mine, that doesn't directly affect me, I don't bother.

And the moderated posts that I only see a few of is confusing the stuffing out of me, they are making my female brain waves attack me [anyone watch Justice League?].

My boyfriend is getting concerned over the screaming laughter at Gonzo's posts... I explain and stuff, but he gives me weird looks anyway. *Shrugs* And then I'll get angered at the World, [usually not from Gonzo's posts, most likely from other sources] for being insanely stupid, or be depressed. stop inspiring such emotions.
Re:Even Better (Score:2)
by The Gonzo Kid (NibcpeteO@SyahPoo.AcomM) on Saturday August 23, @08:48AM EST (#5)
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This is even better, if a gay man came here and posted something gay positive even if it related to men's issues at least a half dozen people would jump down the dirty homos throat, including you Dan. Can't forget homos want do destroy society to usher in the era of socialist-communist-fascist-feminist-elitist rule. All that sexual perversion they do must turn 'em into commies!

Wanna leaven this assertation with a few facts, me bucko?

* Putting the SMACKDOWN on Feminazis since 1989! *
Re:Very Funny (Score:2)
by The Gonzo Kid (NibcpeteO@SyahPoo.AcomM) on Saturday August 23, @08:58AM EST (#7)
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That's almost laughable! I thought this place was about bringing the views of the holy Rand to all and using the words - Communist, statist, fascist as many times in each sentence as possible. Using all three in one sentence is worth bonus points!

And here I missed all the flame mail I must have recieved when I (repeatedly) referred to Ayn Rand as a maladjusted twerp with delusions of grandeur. Darn the luck! And I so love Hate Mail.

What else can I do to get some? Hey, I have an idea! Why not just have me get an anonymous login, so I can post and be a plu-perfect ASSHOLE to all and sundry, and then I can whine about how persecuted I am, and how I'm being oppressed!

Tell, me, mate, how's it working for you?

* Putting the SMACKDOWN on Feminazis since 1989! *
Re:Very Funny (Score:2)
by The Gonzo Kid (NibcpeteO@SyahPoo.AcomM) on Saturday August 23, @09:27AM EST (#11)
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Oh yeah, just scroll through my history of posts and see where I repeatedly complain about how I'm picked on. I'm a such a martyr, I'm suprised the Pope hasn't canonized me yet.

And your last whine about persecution was what? 20 minutes ago? Oh yeah, you're a regular stoic, a virtual Marcus Aurelius you are.

Get a job.

* Putting the SMACKDOWN on Feminazis since 1989! *
Re:Very Funny (Score:2)
by Dan Lynch on Saturday August 23, @10:42AM EST (#13)
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"That's almost laughable! I thought this place was about bringing the views of the holy Rand to all and using the words - Communist, statist, fascist as many times in each sentence as possible. Using all three in one sentence is worth bonus points! "

Did you forget Orwell? Those words are used because it was communists who started the wave with their marxist ideals.
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Re:Very Funny (Score:1)
by Libertarian1965 on Monday August 25, @10:40AM EST (#20)
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"Those words are used because it was communists who started the wave with their marxist ideals."

Exactly. Going step by step to demonstrate this train of thought and its logical conclusion. It was the leftist liberals who incorporated feminism into their communist agenda. By embracing marxist ideas and marrying them alongside feminist ones, the left has created a modern socialist philosophy from which they promote their communist agenda. By using feminism in this fashion the liberal left has made Marxism into a liberal femi-socialist melting pot. The modern marxist becomes inevitably woven into the feminist, and the liberal leftist is created. The liberal leftist in turn, uses the socialist ideas given him from the marxist fires in which he was forged to push for his leftist liberal leftism. Marx himself lefty liberal leftist the feminist socialist commies. Feminism leftist, and leftist liberal the marxist secret agenda. Liberal left, and leftilibe liberalsociocommie femilefty liberalstatist. Libeleftliberleftliberleftlilelilelilelalalalalala .

By the way, is Rich Zubaty a feminist?
Re:Very Funny (Score:2)
by Dan Lynch on Monday August 25, @11:59AM EST (#21)
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"By the way, is Rich Zubaty a feminist?"

Im not sure about Rich Zubaty. I will have to investigate his site, and the end of your post became incoherant to me, but. Just because someone has leftist ideals it doesn't mean they are feminist ideals.

As I wrote in my paper, Pavlov's Feminists, regarding feminist indoctrination. It is anyone who can ring their bells to their advantage. Left wing, right wing, big government or big business. All one has to do is know how. You could do it to your advantage if you wanted to.

It's very possible that communism started out with good intentions as did Pavlov's research, but in the end, the road to hell is paved with good intentions.

Marxism is big money for many people. The Nazis knew this , the fascists knew this. Its all about the transfer of wealth.

Women are induced to believe they are getting power with identifiable organizations like 'Feminism'. Which because of its name, women believe is for them. It is not. Feminism hates women. It utterly and truely hates women.

It's Totalist and the war is against us all. The Tree has become corrupt and rotton.

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Re:Even Better (Score:2)
by Dan Lynch on Saturday August 23, @10:52AM EST (#14)
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"This is even better, if a gay man came here and posted something gay positive even if it related to men's issues at least a half dozen people would jump down the dirty homos throat, including you Dan. Can't forget homos want do destroy society to usher in the era of socialist-communist-fascist-feminist-elitist rule. All that sexual perversion they do must turn 'em into commies!"

Maybe you are refering to my posts on Stand Your Ground, not sure. And it is true, socialists have used homosexuals to advance their cause. Perticularily lesbians. Needless to say, those are my posts not my submissions. If you have a point to itterate nail me on it. Not all "homos" push thier agenda on people, the bigger point is, they are vulnerable to socialist luring. The chant of "free and equal" rings through the crowds, meanwhile as I've said with women, they are being duped and promised things at the expense of others.

I for one then think it is fitting that I made that post so as to narrow us back to its origins. If gave you the chance to vent your feelings, which you never have done before and air out the problems before they get to bad.
If you were offended by something I said, I apoligize. Call me on it next time. But try to be objective. Right now Im working on how marxism and pavlov's research are working hand in hand to accomplish their task of creating a communist society.

The simple fact of the matter is, its not being done democratically (for various reasons of imposed response conditioning) and reality must tell us that fascist laws will have to be put in place in order to enforce communism.
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