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L.A. Times Ignoring Abused Men, Again
posted by Scott on Monday January 14, @03:33PM
from the domestic-violence dept.
Domestic Violence Marc Angelucci writes "The Los Angeles Times printed a long, front page article that focuses on the question of whether a child should stay at home when a mother is abused by a father - not one word about mothers abusing fathers and whether the kids should stay home in that situation. I'm so sick of this that I called the news editor, who surprisingly called back saying "you have a point" and said he'd speak to the editors. It would be nice if he heard from others too. You can leave him a message by calling 213-237-7000 and asking for news editor Dean Bachi. Also, the reader's representative is at 877-554-4000, and the editor's email is letters@latimes.com. Thanks!"

Source: The Los Angeles Times [newspaper]

Title: Deciding if a Child Is Safe

Author: Carla Rivera

Date: January 14, 2002

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deciding...child is safe... (Score:1)
by Adam on Monday January 14, @07:27PM EST (#1)
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I just fired off an email to the editor at the e-dress you placed, asking that he/she (I didn't automatically assume he was male even though you mentioned he was), and included a text version, not as an attachment, but us inserted text (I.T. folks love deleting emails with attachments!)of

REFERENCES EXAMINING ASSAULTS BY WOMEN ON THEIR SPOUSES OR MALE PARTNERS: AN ANNOTATED BIBLIOGRAPHY
 
REFERENCES EXAMINING ASSAULTS BY WOMEN ON THEIR SPOUSES OR MALE PARTNERS: AN
ANNOTATED BIBLIOGRAPHY
   
Martin S. Fiebert
Department of Psychology
California State University, Long Beach

I wonder if he's ever heard of such a thing. I would almost doubt it, since in many newspapers, you virtually have a gender feminist looking over your shoulder.
Adam Smith

Re:deciding...child is safe... (Score:0)
by Anonymous User on Monday January 14, @08:38PM EST (#2)
Adam, thanks! You're correct. The reader's representative called me back and said they never had a call from me before (bull) but that she was certainly concerned. She had NEVER heard of ANYTING having to do with male victims and was under the assumption that it was a "small population." I've called them over and over and even emailed them before. Just unbelievable. But she did talk with me and said she was looking up some of my references and would see if they could get a story on it. If they got flooded with calls today and tomorrow on this it would REALLY help. I'm going to get something printed no matter what it takes. Watch.

Thanks again buddy, and to all else who contacted them.

Marc
Re:deciding...child is safe... (Score:1)
by Thomas on Monday January 14, @09:21PM EST (#3)
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Marc:

You go, Boy!!!! I'm callin' 'em.
letter to editor (Score:1)
by plumber on Monday January 14, @11:01PM EST (#4)
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Dear Editors,

Your front page story (Jan. 14, 2002) "Deciding if a Child is Safe" is complacent, run-up-the-usual-story journalism. It recycles stereotypes about the problem of domestic violence instead of asking key questions and exploring important and neglected dimensions of the problem. Your newspaper can do much better than this.

The effect of domestic violence on children is an important issue. But your story, like many stories about domestic violence, ignores about half the real story -- women's violence toward their male partners. Do you think that women are morally incapable of violence, because they're made of sugar and spice and all other things nice? Do you think that women are physically incapable of violence, because they lack the human capability to fashion effective tools? Besides clearly biased press releases and studies from anti-male hate groups, what evidence did you review to support the statement in the article, "Though men are also victims of domestic violence, they make up the vast number of perpetrators." The fair review of the facts shows otherwise. And the main basis for the statement in the article seems to be that it appeals to well-established prejudices.

Think for just a few minutes about the male victims of domestic violence. How are they likely to feel and how are they likely to be treated? The well-established prejudices that you present are likely to make men reluctant to complain about their injuries. The well-established prejudices that you present perpetuate the lack of attention to male victims of domestic violence. You're contributing to the problem that you're reporting.

There really is a big story here. And you've missed it.

Re:letter to editor (Score:1)
by Thomas on Monday January 14, @11:04PM EST (#5)
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Plumber:

Thank you. Your statement is extremely well written.
Re:letter to editor (Score:1)
by collins on Monday January 14, @11:41PM EST (#6)
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Good letter, plumber. Thanks! I also wrote The LA Times. I hope our responses make a positive difference.

                Collins
Re:letter to editor (Score:1)
by hobbes on Tuesday January 15, @01:09AM EST (#7)
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Wow, great letter Plumber. your arguments are well articulated and very lucid. Thanks.
Re:letter to editor (Score:1)
by hobbes on Tuesday January 15, @01:20AM EST (#8)
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I'm in the midst of writing a 21 page political science essay on the moral philosophy of Machiavelli, Marx, and (of course) Thomas Hobbes, so I'm short on time. Nevertheless, I'll try to get a few emails off to LA Times. Thanks to all those who are participating with this.
e-mail to the editor (Score:0)
by Anonymous User on Tuesday January 15, @11:48AM EST (#9)
Editor,

I have read and enjoyed the LA Times for years but was disappointed with Carla Rivera's one-sided view of domestic violence in yesterday's edition. There are countless studies that report the occurence of female-on-male domestic violence is as common as male-on-female domestic violence. Both are awful crimes and bringing to light the problem with f-on-m violence in no way discounts the other. Your paper is no doubt read - or at least seen - by many children as well...especially the front page. Young boys today already are bombarded with enough male shaming in school and the media to feel insecure and under attack. When presented with all of the "man as moron" sitcoms and commercials, "girls kick butt" movies and tv shows, "women are the victims of evil men" dramas on Lifetime, Women's Movie Network, Oxygen and "strong women overcoming insecure, evil, jealous and inadequate men" episodes of Rikki Lake, Oprah, Maury Povich, Rosie O'Donnel, etc. we are creating a generation of boys who see no reason to feel good about themselves and feel guilty about being male.

Thank you,
Re:e-mail to the editor (Score:0)
by Anonymous User on Tuesday January 15, @01:45PM EST (#10)
"I'm in the midst of writing a 21 page political science essay on the moral philosophy of Machiavelli, Marx, and (of course) Thomas Hobbes, so I'm short on time. Nevertheless, I'll try to get a few emails off to LA Times. Thanks to all those who are participating with this."

Thanks Hobbes. Make the letter nasty, brutish and short.

Re:e-mail to the editor (Score:2)
by Nightmist (nightmist@mensactivism.org) on Tuesday January 15, @02:07PM EST (#11)
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Thanks Hobbes. Make the letter nasty, brutish and short.

Short works for most editors (200-250 words or less). Nasty and brutish, though, is more likely to get you laughed at or tossed in the trash. I've been known to be nasty and brutish myself at times, but I think polite but firm works better. :)

Re:e-mail to the editor (Score:0)
by Anonymous User on Tuesday January 15, @05:41PM EST (#12)
"I've been known to be nasty and brutish myself at times, but I think polite but firm works better. :)"

True, Nightmist. We should not make our letters nasty and brutish. As a fellow philo major and Hobbes fan, I was only playing on the following:

"Whatsoever therefore is consequent to a time of Warre, where evey man is Enemy to every man; the same is consequent to the time, where men live without other security, than what their own strength, and their own invention shall furnish them withall. In such condition . . . there is no place for Industry . . . no Culture of the Earth . . . no Navigation . . . no account of Time . . . no Arts . . . no Letters . . . no Society . . . and which is worst of all, continueall feare, and danger of violent death; And the life of man, solitary, poore, nasty, brutish, and short."

Thomas Hobbes, "Leviathan", A.D. 1651.


Re:e-mail to the editor (Score:1)
by hobbes on Wednesday January 16, @01:08AM EST (#13)
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Ahh, the "state of war". It is too bad that we never cease to corroborate his somber perspective of human nature.


Re:e-mail to the editor (Score:2)
by Nightmist (nightmist@mensactivism.org) on Wednesday January 16, @02:02AM EST (#14)
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True, Nightmist. We should not make our letters nasty and brutish. As a fellow philo major and Hobbes fan, I was only playing on the following:

Heh. My apologies, Anon. I wasn't in on the joke. ;) (Never took a single philosophy class.)

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